But they would need to add some code to detect if it's an In/Out clip, and then Apply the same type of X position Shift to the clip, Like they do for the Desktop.

That would fix the inout issue in fullscreen for sure. There are a few functions that are desperately needed in fullscreen that would take it to a whole new level. Many people have raised these before, and sorry for opening old suggestions. The deeper I dig into fullscreen building I see many issues that restrict any further "realism" progress and entertainment value of fullscreen. The 2 biggest ones that frustrate everyone are ...

• Ability to chose which girls appear in a scene, Girl 1 you can choose and cycle through, but more than one girl on screen is a lucky dip, sometimes the girls are so badly matched with each other we have to keep scrolling until a good matching group is spawned
• And ability to swap out any of the girls and outfits mid show.

I have seen many conversations about this topic through the forums and it is a genuine request that i can now really appreciate from both a customer and scene making level.
I truely hope Totem will consider this somewhere in its future, the response from other users about how the realism in fullscreen enhances their iStripper experience is true feedback. fullscreen has massive potential that is being left behind.
Just my little voice all the way from Australia lol

Hi guys, I have a question about animations.
How can I insert strings and ranges?
for example:
animate: Action 01 blah blah blah
animate: (that works as a pause, for example 10 sec)
animate: Action 02, blah blah blah
animate: Action 03 blah blah blah

I saw a post where @TheEmu speaks it and I can't find it

Don't know where it is on the List or if it is even on the list of things to do...

But they would need to add some code to detect if it's an In/Out clip, and then Apply the same type of X position Shift to the clip, Like they do for the Desktop.

For a Scene Creator, you would then put the Hot Spot at the point you want to be used as the Edge
then the code behind the scene would do the X axis shift for an In/Out clip.

For example, Let say your Scene had a Full length Mirror in the Scene, and you wanted to look like the Model was
Peeking out from Behind the Mirror.

You code the X hot spot as the Edge of the Mirror, and for all of the In/out clips, the clip would get shifted in X so it started at your Hot spot.


for all other Scenes, you would then Deny: Inout clips

Another option would be Like standingHeight and sittingHeight
Have an inoutpos:
For all other clips the Normal pos: is used
but if it's an inOut clip, then the inoutpos: position is used and the clip is shifted to this position.

Will Either of these ideas or something else every be addressed, ???

@Wyldanimal thanks for that lengthy explaination, it actually makes sense now.
Yeah lol sorry @Number6 for expanding on a topic I'm sure all of you have raised many times before, I'm still a newbie on here.
So essentially the nature of how everyones screen varies in "width and format" is the culprit. The inout is a fun feature for desktop use, which is iStrippers natural habitat, it makes sense,.. but as ET says, in Fullscreen scenes they need to be eliminated altogether because they are unusable which is a fair % of show that I never get to see lol. unless..., we build a "scene specific to a show", which is pointless.
I actually dont disagree with how this is done in the past, the percentage of pure desktop users would be way higher and making it function ideally for that use prevents the forums exploding with complaints hahaha. Fullscreen does feel like a secondary thought tho, and I've noticed not many users like it.
My 2cents, I think some serious thoughts from Totem about the future functionality of fullscreen would benefit the platform and iStripper users greatly moving forward, we can all see a ton of potential that isnt being fully utilised, many of these limitations make me scrap ideas before they begin because it simply "cant" work.
But please dont get me wrong everyone lol, I definitely still love iStripper!!!!

Funny thing is, I've never seen anyone on the forum ever request this 'feature'

years ago, there was an Email survey that I remember this being a question on.
I think it was sent to random sampling of the members.

There was also a similar survey done that asked about the cage clips.
I think the response wasn't favorable and that why we don't see cage clips anymore.

these surveys were done by an independent 3rd party.
Not directly by Totem.

Totem did something similar with their New iStripper Logo design.

had Logo designers create Logos, and then had members go look at them and vote
on their favorite 1, 2, 3...

I think it went two or three rounds...
from the winners of the first round, that narrowed down the design Idea, and then New Logos using the Winning concepts from the previous round.

I'd have to Switch to my 4K screen system to be able to Show the Full Width of these In/out clips
Some only walk out 400 pixels, and some walk out 1000 pixels.

Almost every In / Out clip has a different hotspot from the edge of the screen.

Also, Some of the Older In/out clips, the Model Started out On Screen, but ended the clip by walking off the edge of the screen.
This was still an in/out clip, because the model exited the side of the screen.

The Older proper In/Out clips were any clip that Entered or Exited the Side of the Screen.
The Ones that I called MisLabled were the Table clips, that Entered or Exited Behind the Table.
These were also given the In/Out bit, but to Me, that was not a proper In/out clip.

Also, I noticed there is a difference between the women falling off their bar stools using a hanging clip or not.

So why does it work with Paula's Show here, but not with the others?

The clip or card you mention is an Old style proper In/Out
The Model enters from the side of the screen.

The problem with these, is that the Hotspot is not a fixed distance from the Boundary of the clip.
It varies from one card to another.

So if in this card it was 550 pixels
on another card it might only be 450 pixels

So setting an X position for the clip sprite might work with one or some cards, but not with others.

The In/Out clips do Not have a Fixed Hotspot, it varies from clip to clip.

Here I picked a few of the older a Series In/out clips
I screen captured where the hot spot is.
then I drew a Green line at the hot spot, and Measured from the Entry Side to the Line.

i did two different Paula's cards, both of them came out to be about 700 pixels.
As you can see from the other 4, none of them are close enough to 700 that the clip would be in the correct X position
if your Scene was designed for a clip with a 700 X position.

Wow,

And I thought I liked to drink beer!!!

they wont remove them i can only hide oh well

I have all the Current cards downloaded in the Max Resolution
Plus the Photoset Zips, and also the Expanded Photosets
I do Not have all the bonus Movies
So combined Models, Data, Photos, movies
I'm currently using 4.2 TB for iStripper

I checked the Size of the Last 100 cards, and that averages 1.8 GB per card for 4K

360 cards for 5 years would be about 3.8 TB

So you would need an 8TB or larger HDD to last for 5 years.

Buy 3 Drives, Use one as your Daily drive, and make two backups.

Better lighting could help the girls see the edges... perhaps some warning signs. :)

I would say just keep them on the relative safety of the desktop bar, but even then sometimes you click and they just jump off and dissapear! :)

My collection is about 2800 cards. It occupies 2.5 TB and all the cards in 4K are loaded as 4K. I'd estimate that the 4K cards require about 1 GB each. I buy about 2/3 of the cards at the time they are released and have no desire to buy the others. That means I'll need to move to a larger disk in about a year. You don't want to fill more than about 90% of a disk.

its only been 4 and a half years since I raised this

@Number6 LoL !!
New In/Out looks a tad like an unsustainable business practice imho..
Nici ~ What's Cookin' devotes one third of its running time to the new in/out clips.
Fullscreeners pay the same card price as desktoppers yet are expected to be content with purchasing only to disable a third of such a card ??? Funny thing is, I've never seen anyone on the forum ever request this 'feature'

How much memory is taken up and how many shows do you have downloaded?Thinking of purchasing a HD specific to this and want to make sure I size it properly to be future proof for the next 5 or so years.

@wisc4fun - without doing some serious adding up, the 4k shows average 1.7 to 1.8 gB each. This compares to closer to 500mB for 3k shows. I now have 360 4K shows downloaded out of around 1600 and my models folder is 1.4tB on an external HD of 4tB.

So - you need to project based on your purchasing habits - if you buy 300 shows a year for 5 years you will need (I think) 2.7tB of space - and you should double that to allow for backup across two devices. And that is just for new releases - assume that you build up a similar collection to me of old shows and previous 4k shows and you will be looking at 4.1tB for each copy (primary and back up).

So a 6tB device is probably best - but I'm sure @Wyldanimal can advise on use of RAID devices.

HTH

Guys - give Totem some leeway here.

I'm sure they'll sort the inout clips given time, after all its only been 4 and a half years since I raised this.😢

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/32442/1?post=494409

Ah, je viens de voir quelle était remplacée par une autre fille de votre collection, alors je ne sais pas.
Moi, c'est une fille des extraits qui l'a remplacée a peu près au moment ou une apparaissait.
C'est pour cela que j'avais pensé qu'en désactivant l'arrivée d'un nouveau modèle cela résoudrait le problème ?

All that is correct, however old style inout clips did have consitant hotspots that could be relied on in fullscreen scenes. Though you could not accurately position where the entrance/exit point was you could accurately position where the girl would perform (which is particularly important for pole clips). With the new style inout clips you can't accurately position any aspect of the performance.

To expand a little on the hotspot for table clips. For behindTable clips it is located at the centre of the bottom edge of the clip, for frontTable clips it is located a little up from the bottom edge (so that the legs can dangle down from whatever the girl is sat on in a scene). How far up the hotspot is depends on how old the card is - for the oldest cards it is lower than for newer cards with the result that if the oldest cards are used in a scene the girls feet may be chopped off (which we can hide behind a foreground object if we allow for this possibility in a scene).

(Actually it is not the position of the hotspot that causes the girls feet to be chopped off, in the oldest frontTable clips the feet woluld dangle below the camera's field of view which is then reflected in the position of the hotspot)

@ComteDracula
Réglages, rubrique ; CLIPS, Fréquence D'apparition des nouveaux extraits : 10 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 heure, 2 heures, 1jour, jamais.

Essayer peut-être plus que la durée d'un show, soit 1heure ou plus.

Je ne garanti pas le résultat, mais bon qui ne tente rien…..

@Philours,

Mes réglages sont dans l'image de mon précédent message. Durée des shows "tous les clips".

Pour ma part, je n'ai pas de filles dans les "extraits", ayant toutes les cartes.

Par contre elle est remplacée par une autre fille dans ma collection.

@ComteDracula
Je viens de tester votre configuration (30% pour la taille, mais là n'est pas le problème).
Effectivement, après +/- 15' la première fille est remplacée par une fille des extraits.
Je n'ai pas le temps de tester maintenant mais peut-être essayé de régler le délai de remplacement des filles des extraits.
Réglage plus bas dans "Réglages" Par défaut il est de 10 minutes.
Je ne sais pas quel est le votre.
Voilà, c'est une idée qui m'est venue. A tester !

@Wyldanimal

In Out clips do not have a consistent X axis hot spot.
It varies from clip to clip.
Full Screen dosn't make any calculation for In/out clip shifting.

Here i have a Question/Wondering?
Take one of my Fullscreenscenes for testing,
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/29408/40?post=672027
and Paula Shy/Casino Gal,
https://www.istripper.com/model/show/a1579
and play this specific Clip,

a1579_64305.vghd

with one of my Fullscreenscenes.
So why does it work with Paula's Show here, but not with the others?

I'm just curious @Wyldanimal. I did some testing and there is no consistancy with inout in fullscreen mode.
Do the swing clips use a similar calculation / programming to attach to the top of the users screen in desktop mode? Swing clips can be positioned and calculated in Y in fullscreen, cant the inout clips be calculated in x? or is it a filming restraint rather than the programming?

All Swing Clips share a Common Hot spot that is the Top Center of the clip.
that is the Attachment Point.
It is In Y axis
in fact All of the Clips that have a Y axis Hotspot, can be consistently coded for in a Scene.

In Out clips do not have a consistent X axis hot spot.
It varies from clip to clip.
Full Screen dosn't make any calculation for In/out clip shifting.

In desktop mode.
the Software Sets an Entrance Point.
All of the small size Clips are Located on the Screen based off this entrance point.

In/Out clips are a special case.
the Entrance point Y axis is only used, and the X position is ignored.
instead An X location based on the edge of the users screen is calculated.
And the Clip is shifted to this new X location.

This is not Done in Full Screen Scenes.

In desktop mode
The Saved Entrance Spot is the Center of the Circle
often the Entrance and the Clip Hotspot will be the same.
but the Hot spot can be shifted, depending on what type of clip it is.
The Entrance Remains in the same spot, it does not get shifted.

Hot Spots - Small Green X marks the Spot
Standing Clip - center bottom
Table Clip - center Ledge of table
Pole and Cage clip - bottom center of pole / cage
In/Out Pole Clip - bottom Center of Pole Shifted to Screen edge minus (1/2 width of Bounding box )
Swing Clip - Top Center of swing. Attaches to the Bottom of a ledge.
Glass Clip - Bottom center of clip varies from clip to clip
older in/out from the side - Shifted to the side of the screen minus width of clip varies from clip to clip
New Style In/out - Shifted to the Side of scree minus width of clip. Varies from clip to clip

How much memory is taken up and how many shows do you have downloaded?

Thinking of purchasing a HD specific to this and want to make sure I size it properly to be future proof for the next 5 or so years.

Merci @stefnev1 pour l'info.

Je voulais aussi savoir si certains d'entre vous ont ce problème.

Je fais souvent jouer trois filles en mode petit à 85% pour lecture sur le bureau (écran dimensionné 1920x1080).

Voir l'image de mes réglages.

Je sélectionne trois cartes dans "Ma collection" que je transfère dans "En cours" à droite de l'écran.

Lors de la lecture, je remarque qu'il y a souvent une carte, qui disparaît pour être remplacée par une autre, et ce, même si elle n'a pas joué tous ses clips, comme demandé dans mes réglages.

Avez-vous une idée de ce qui cause ce problème ?

@TheEmu & all
I think it is more like someone is telling the boss..
'..we cannot get the models to act like they are behind a screen that isn't there'

Ok, well how about ditching the C-K screen and instead stretch a fine piano wire from roof to floor where it was. Models should be able to imagine a screen edge to work with, desktoppers have a fixed side reference and fullscreeners like @JayZ971 & the rest of us can get on with their full body clips back.. n'est-ce pas ?

@EverthangForever

I agree. In my opinion the new style inout clips should have been assigned a new flag bit rather than sharing one with the old style and the clips hotspots should have been defined such that they corresponded with the the edge of screen. This would have allowed us to accurately position these clips in, for example, a doorway. I was very surprised that this was not the case. The information to accurately position these clips is there somewhere (otherwise they would not work in desktop mode) but it is not available to fullscreen scene writers.

Imho, a scene file header needs to be implementable according to clip date. One that then differentiates how 'in/out' is to be treated. Its no good expecting members to deny perfectly good old in/out clips or edit the names of all their pre 2018 clips

For the Older clips that were misLabeld as In/Out

The older clips were not mislabelled as "inout". In my opinion it is the newer clips that are mislabelled and should preferably have been assigned a different clip type such as "edge" (just as the swing clips introduced at the same time are tagged as "top"). In any case the fact is that two very different clip types are classed as "inout" with no way to distinguish between them in a .scn file.

When I did some experimenting I found that the old style "inout" clips could be handled consistently in a scene. This is most easily seen with inout pole clips where the clips' hotspots are consistently, as one would expect, at the base of the pole (just as they are in normal pole clips). However, much to my surprise, I could find was no such consistency in hotspot placement for new style inout clips and it was not possible to accurately position these in a scene. These experiments were made quite some time ago so there may be more consistency now, but I doubt it.

These renamed Clips will no longer be Filtered out as in/Out clips. But you won't be able to Include them specifically, since they are then, no longer a unique clip type.

This whittling down of permissions control is actually a big deal for some scenes where you may want to allow a model to walk in or out of a scene as @Carstrip and I encountered in the Bare Elegance mod exercise.

I'm just curious @Wyldanimal. I did some testing and there is no consistancy with inout in fullscreen mode.
Do the swing clips use a similar calculation / programming to attach to the top of the users screen in desktop mode? Swing clips can be positioned and calculated in Y in fullscreen, cant the inout clips be calculated in x? or is it a filming restraint rather than the programming?

they could have retained the simple placement method without excluding portion of the images in their actual clipsprite capture.

To achieve the desired effect ( the Model peaking in from the side of the Screen ) A real screen on the side of the stage was used.
This then allowed for an Accurate Bounding Box, that the software could then Shift to the Side of a Users Screen.
It then didn't matter the Size of the Performer, or the Outfit, or an Accessory.
The Edge of the Bounding box would always be the same.
Math
Find center of screen
Find edge of users Screen
Width to edge = Edge - Center
Find center of clip
Find edge of Bounding Box
Width of clip = Edge of Bounding box to Center
Clip center = Screen Center
Shift Clip from center = Width to Edge - Width of Clip
That places the Clip right on the side of the screen.


It is the Same type of Shift Used to Have the Clip Seem to be On the top of your Task Bar.

It would have been technically impossible to do the same if the Full body was included.
There would have been no Fixed Bounding Box.

An example is when the Model wraps her fingers around the edge of the screen.
That is only possible to create, because there is an Actual bounding box.

Bit 6 or a Value of 64, is what the Software uses to classify a clip as in/out.
After that Bit is found, then the Header of the clip contains the bounding box metrics to determine the shift amount.

I very often want to work with just the one style of in-out clip but there is no way to do so.

For the Older clips that were misLabeld as In/Out
you can rename the clips, by removing the value of In/out from the clip type.
These are the clips where the Performer was hidden behind the table, and then popups up from behind.
Early on, they were classified as In/Out because the Performer enters from being off the screen.
But the True In/out clips are the Ones the Enter from the Side of the screen.


In/Out has a Value of 64, so from the Clip type number, subtract 64

After you Have renamed them, do a rebuild Collection.

These renamed Clips will no longer be Filtered out as in/Out clips.

But you won't be able to Include them specifically, since they are then, no longer a unique clip type.

La 1.2.266 corrige au moins 1 bug : l'écran noir en mode plein écran.
http://www.istripper.com/fr/forum/thread/45351/1?post=673652

Thanks @pickle1, yes indeed! Lovely addition to the online collection 😍

Two Stacy's cards in online collection, 10 to go...

@TheEmu
I never understood Totem's logic in introducing the physical chroma-key edge screen causing us to deny working permissions on many many older cards perfectly good 'in/out' clips in fullscreen during 2017 onwards. Surely if they wanted to designate a model half hidden at the screen side they could have retained the simple placement method without excluding portion of the images in their actual clipsprite capture.

In late 2017 I cobbled an experiment snow scene for @Sexybrune which showed the consistant placement of the new in/out clipsprite can never occur on a scene because the size of the clip's bounding box will vary for each clip.

Totem's choice seemed at the time so low tech an approach. Anyway, an effect intended solely for the desktop crowd, to this day ~ it still beats me why they could not have replaced with a flag a tad less important in their clip names codes instead,.. like say using the 'holding a sign' or some other bit set .

En tout cas, ce fil de discussion me sera très utile. Merci d'y avoir pensé.

Petite question comme cela, qu'est-ce que la version 1.2.266 apporte de plus que la version précédente ?

Est-ce juste pour corriger certains bogues, où il y a de nouvelles fonctionnalités ?

Je n'ai rien vu à ce sujet, il me semble.

Valentine

In the settings there is the heading "CLIPS".
The entry "Free Preview Push" can be set to "NEVER", then no new previews will be loaded automatically.
Only the previews that can be seen in the Preview tab are shown.

If you want to deactivate the preview of a show, click on the tick symbol. (Previews tab)
If this show is bought later, this show is still deactivated and will not be played automatically. This show can then be activated again by the tick symbol.

###

There is no way to deactivate all shows of a series (Fxxxx) with a few clicks. Each show must be deactivated individually.

Valentine 💖💖

@JayZ971 @TheEmu

Thank you for the feedback. I do appreciate it. Yeah, I don't love that, but I made the choice to leave the inouts in because I don't like limiting the number of clips that will play more than necessary. To me, it's just something I have to accept, like older cards cutting off at the knees on the fronttable clips or some girls using up way too much lateral space in their shows and walking on air in my scenes.

I have no quarrel with anyone who wants to modify the scenes I post to change things how they would like them better, though. Feel free to deny inouts on your end and even re-share them if you think others would appreciate the improvement. I'm not proud. 😊

Some of the girls used to use Stanz account to chat on the website... I always wondered if we were being punked :)

Some appeared as team members under their names and chatted with the peeps... those were the days... ;)

+1

C'est une bonne idée. Nous verrons combien de personnes viendront sur ce fil de discussion, cela nous donnera une idée du nombre de francophones qui suivent régulièrement iStripper.

Candy Sweet has vagazzle ;)

Alina https://www.istripper.com/model/alina

Thanks for you answer.

But how can i disable cards from XXX Collections on automatic card preview ?
Before i can do it with the checkbox "Hide XXX Collection" under the line "Do not show nudity on screen saver"

@Dfner - it's your favourite girl in your outfit. Enjoy👍👍👍

Hi @kaiju - is anyone going to pop this onto the Discord site in the Announcements section please?