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TheEmu
Inscrit en Jul 2012
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3 July 2022, 85 réponses
@ComteDracula

Certainly the analogies are not perfect, they were intended to show that the practice is widespread.

iStripper is a monopoly and has no equivalent.

Bingo, you have identified a very important aspect - something you have known but have been ignoring important consequences thereof.

It means that there is less of a reason for them to indulge in the practices that you keep asking for. Such "philanthropy" by businesses directed towards customers it is usually associated with competition by being used to encourage users to stay with the company making the "gifts", Conversely "gifts" are also used to encourage customers of the competition to switch as well as attracting completely new customers.

Monopolies only really need to offer such "gifts" in order to retain customers - but very loyal customers are precisely those that are less likely to leave anyway so are less receptive to them.

We are essentially in agreement about what is happening, but not about the likelihood of it changing. In my opinion we are only likely to see it if it becomes favourable to Totem. Arguing that other companies provide "gifts" to loyal customers is irrelevant if those companies have direct competitors while Totem do not.

A very very relevant example here is myself. Until recently I had been buying every normal card that Totem had released and only shortly before ceasing to do that had also participated in the games to the extent that I had all the SECs. If, while exhibiting my "maximum loyalty" I had been offered a free SEC it would have reduced the income that Totem's received from me.

They would not have been giving me a SEC (which would have cost them very little) but would have been giving up the amount that I would have paid in order to get that SEC (which would have been a much larger amount). so it is not surprising that during this period I was offered no such "gifts". However, since I ceased to be a "loyal customer" I have received a few offers of this kind - again this is not surprising as such offers could have nudged me back into buying again.

I am surely not alone in this. Certainly there will have been other "loyal customers" for which the offer would have been effective, but the question is would they, in Totem's estimation, made up for the risk of losses from those like me,
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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3 July 2022, 85 réponses
I too in this case would like to have the generic version of the same card as the SEC, which would be sold to us at a price of a "Normal" card.

What you are talking about is related to a merchant who wants to sell a product under his name, but who will deal with a manufacturer of a similar product that is sold at a higher price with the brand of this manufacturer.

Basically the two products are almost similar except for the presentation (packaging) and the brand.

Except that in this case there is a way to make a choice for the cheaper product, which in essence is almost similar. People have the choice to pay for the brand or not.

Except that here there is no competition, nor any other choice to have the similar product at a lower price. of the same card with say a different presentation in the display.

iStripper is a monopoly and has no equivalent.


Moi aussi dans ce cas j'aimerais avoir la version générique de la même carte que la SEC, qui nous serait vendu à un prix d'un carte "Normale".

Ce dont vous parlez est en lien à un marchant qui veut vendre un produit à son nom, mais qui va faire affaire avec un fabricant, d'un produit similaire qui est vendu plus cher avec la marque de ce fabriquant.

Dans le fond les deux produits sont quasi similaire sauf la présentation (emballage) et la marque.

Sauf que dans ce cas il y a moyen de faire un choix pour le produit le moins cher, qui dans l'essence est pratiquement semblable. Les gens ont le choix de payer pour la marque ou non.

Sauf qu'ici il n'y a pas de compétition, ni de choix autre pour avoir le produit similaire à moins cher. d'une même carte avec disons une présentation différente dans l'affichage.

iStripper est un monopole et n'a pas d'équivalent.
ComteDracula
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2 July 2022, 85 réponses
Yes, for you (but not everyone) they are the same thing - but only after purchasing them. Before that they are very different things. Almost all that you have said on the subject confirms that they are, for you, very different before purchase.

In form and content it is the same. They are the same girls, with no more extras than the regular cards.

They are just more difficult to acquire, to create envy and contribute in many cases to an ***** profit for Totem. That's the difference.

Look no further.

And like all cards, they don't belong to us. Totem just gives us the right to play them.

I as a collector, when it comes to an object and I am willing to pay a higher price, I own this object, and can resell it.

This is not the case here.

As for the NFT, yes we own a card. Yes you can resell it, but it's too risky a market to invest in.


Dans la forme et son contenu c'est la même chose. Ce sont les mêmes filles, avec pas plus de supplément que les cartes régulières.

Elles sont juste plus difficile à acquérir, pour susciter l'envie et contribuer dans plusieurs cas à un profit abusif pour Totem. Elle est là la différence.

Ne cherchez pas plus loin.

De plus comme toutes les cartes, elles ne nous appartiennent pas. Totem nous cèdent juste le droit de les faire jouer.

Moi en tant que collectionneur, quant il s'agit d'objet et que je suis prêt à payer un prix plus élevé, je possède cet objet, et peut le revendre.

Ce qui n'est pas le cas ici.

Quant aux NFT, oui on possède une carte. Oui on peut la revendre, mais c'est un marché trop à risque pour y investir.
ComteDracula
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2 July 2022, 85 réponses
It's the unknown cost and the oversized profit in relation to the value of the SEC card that bothers me, not the profit itself, which is normal for a business.

Stop counting in credit, and count how much in cash a card cost you.

Because with the exchange rates, the purchase of credits does not have the same value for everyone.

There is still something exaggerated to spend say 300 credits for a card that is worth at most 11.00 credits for a Triple Diamond Premium member or 13.75 without Premium.

It seems that inflation does not affect everyone's wallet in the same way.

But personally I find this profit *****.

It is in my opinion, much more of a project like the NFT, which if it doesn't work, may affect the regular program.

Because they have to subsidize themselves from these more profitable funds, to start this project.

I'm sorry, but for me, SEC and regular cards are the same thing.

Artificial scarcity is a technique to give the illusion that one card is more valuable than the others, when it is not. It is an old tactic of capitalism. To make people believe that if they don't have that rare thing, they'll miss out on something, which could make them happy.

I have SEC cards, and none have made me happier than regular cards.

I was fooled at first. But not anymore.


C'est bien plus le coût inconnu et le profit surdimensionné en lien à la valeur de la carte SEC qui me dérange,et non le profit proprement dit, qui est normal pour une entreprise.

Cessé de compter en crédit, et compter combien en argent une carte vous à coûté.

Car avec les taux de change, l'achat de crédits n'a pas la même valeur pour tous.

Il y a tout de même quelquechose d'éxagéré à dépenser disons 300 crédits pour une carte qui en vaut au plus 11.00 crédits pour un membre Triple diamants Premium ou 13.75 sans Premium.

Il semble que l'inflation n'affecte pas le portefeuille de tout le mon de la même manière.

Mais personnnellement je trouve ce profit abusif.

C'est selon moi, bien plus des projet comme les NFT, qui si ça ne fonctionne pas, risque d'affecter le programme régulier.

Car ils doivent se subventionner à même ces fonds plus rentable, pour démarrer ce projet.

Désolé, mais pour moi, les SEC et les cartes régulières c'est la même chose.

La rareté artificielle, est une technique pour donner l'illusion qu'une carte a plus de valeur que les autres, alors qu'il n'en est rien. C'est une vieille tactique du capitalisme. Pour inciter les gens à croire que s'il ne possède pas cette chose rare, ils vont passer à côter de quelquechose, qui pourrait les rendre heureux.

J'ai des cartes SEC, et aucune ne m'a rendu plus heureux que des cartes régulières.

Je me suis fait avoir au début. Mais plus maintenant.
ComteDracula
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2 July 2022, 85 réponses
lady luck was on my side today i won both SEC shows and 2 gift cards in the 25 game.😀👍


@dolphins109 The real question is how much did each SEC card and gift card (which is not a gift after all, since you paid for them), cost you on average? Have you done the math?

Remember, these cards are not worth more than the others. Totem has created an artificial rarity for these cards.

It's not like an item that is created in so many copies. And then there will be none left.

The iStripper cards can be sold in as many copies as Totem wants. There is no real rarity here.

It's all about profit for Totem.

If you got a good deal, good for you. If not, you have contributed to making Totem richer. In the latter case, there is nothing to be happy about.


@dolphins109 La vraie question est combien chaque carte SEC et carte cadeau (qui n'est finalement pas un cadeau, puisque vous les avez payé), vous ont t'elle coûtée en moyenne ? Avez-vous fait le décompte ?

N'oubliez pas que ces cartes ne valent pas plus que les autres. Totem a crée une rareté artificielle pour ces cartes.

Ce n'est pas comme un objet qui est créé à tant d'exemplaire. Et qu'ensuite il n'y en aura plus.

Les cartes iStripper peuvent être vendu à autant d'exemplaire que Totem le veut. Il n'y a pas de réelle rareté ici.

C'est une question de profit pour Totem.

Si vous vous en êtes tiré à bon compte tant mieux. Sinon vous avez contribué à enrichir Totem. Dans ce dernier cas, il n'y a pas de quoi se réjouir.