@celine Please, help!
I want my credits back and I want to play safe this event tonight, because is very rare and I am not rich!!!

All the cards are 16.50 credits, except the Christy White & Eve Sweet which is 22 credits.
More than this, the next 16.50 card which is Eve Sweet / Delightful Pussy doesn't matter either, to give me back 16.50 credits.

This is my Account history until now:

Date Action Category Amount

1 minute ago Eve Sweet / Delightful Pussy Added to collection
13 minutes ago Christy White & Eve Sweet / Kiss With A Fist Added to collection
13 minutes ago Belka / Dragon Bulge Added to collection
13 minutes ago Kelly Collins / Sail Me To The Moon Added to collection
14 minutes ago Alissa Foxy / I Saw The Wolf Added to collection

23 minutes ago 16.5 credit(s) given by the system Earned
23 minutes ago Nata Ocean / Whooping It Up Added to collection
23 minutes ago Cashback bonus! 16.5 credits added to your account! Information
23 minutes ago Kitty / Overload Added to collection
23 minutes ago Sonya Blaze / Super Sonya Added to collection
24 minutes ago Milkavi / Stranger Flings Added to collection

31 minutes ago 16.5 credit(s) given by the system Earned
31 minutes ago Freya Mayer / Porn Star Light Added to collection
31 minutes ago Cashback bonus! 16.5 credits added to your account! Information
31 minutes ago Freya Mayer / Deep Into My Wonderland Added to collection
32 minutes ago Lottie Magne / Teen's Gambit Added to collection
32 minutes ago Paola Hard / Oh! Mei God! Added to collection

1 hour ago 500 credit(s) bought

I think everyone forgets that they had to Agree to the Mobile BETA Terms

I never read terms .. they all say the same thing. The user has no ownership or rights and the seller does. You can use as many words as you like to say it but its always the same. In the end it is how trust worthy is the company I use Microsoft and Google products. No love for them but at least some trust.

Google recently started charging me for my 'Legacy' email plan; it was free for about 14 years but they decided it was time to start charging for the business plans. I still have several free plans for personal and family use. I was given at least 6 moths advance notice this was coming. It's fair to charge for me for business accounts and generous to allow me to keep personal plans. Hence the trust.

The terms of IS say I own nothing (I haven't actually read them but it's a safe bet); so if they go out of business or change businesses that it's safe to say my 3000 card investment will be gone. I'm not upset or angered by this fact as it's common sense no matter what the terms say. Trying to use the term/EULA/etc as an excuse to take advantage of customers doesn't help the trust.

Here is my opinion as an outsider (never used mobile version and never will)

• noone can expect it for free of charge, because it is a lot of work to process the shows to that format

HOWEVER

• for those people who are using the product exclusively on mobile (=purchased the cards there) Totem should give back their collection for free of charge and delete their further computer registraction option (you have possiblity to run your collection on two computers - limit that only to mobile phone for those users who insist to that!)

It shouldn't be that big programming to solve this.
Otherwise since I don't use this on mobile, I don't care, so just an idea how not to disappoint and lose your mobile customers.

I think everyone forgets that they had to Agree to the Mobile BETA Terms
Before you could enter the Mobile BETA site and use it.

EVERYONE that used the Mobile BETA site, AGREED to the Terms.

1st open of the m.istripper.com
18 or older.
Notice the Title of the Page in the Tab.
iStripper mobile beta
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/9oG418VK.png

After you agreed to 18 year old.
You only had free access to Free Previews.
you had to sign in or create an account to gain full acceess
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/fo155bZU.png

You had to put a check mark in the Box that you Agreed to the Terms.
but, maybe you didn't take the time to READ the Terms??
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/c7qjNCl9.jpg

You could also go Read the Terms by clicking on the Words 'Terms and GDPR'
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/ol2vVmlA.png
and
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/F3Vtovfw.png

You agreed to the Terms,
It was a BETA and that was spelled out in the Terms that it could change at any time, with or without notice.

IX. Updates and Modifcations
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2022-11-17/uuDDhnWH.png

IX. UPDATES AND MODIFICATIONS
Totem may provide Updates to the Product that must be updated for you to continue to play the Product. Each time you open the Product, you hereby give your consent to Totem to run any Updates to the Product, with or without additional notification to you.
Totem reserves the right, in its sole and absolute discretion, to revise, update, change, modify, add to, supplement, or delete certain terms of this License Agreement as the Product and the law evolve; provided, however, that material changes to this License Agreement will not be applied retroactively. Such changes will be effective with or without prior notice to you. You can review the most current version of this License Agreement by clicking on the "EULA" link located at the bottom of the Product. You are responsible for checking this License Agreement periodically for changes. If the Product requires an Update at the time you launch the Product to access the Product, you will also have the opportunity to review and to accept or reject the current version of this License Agreement. If any future changes to this License Agreement are ***** to you or cause you to no longer be in agreement or compliance with this License Agreement, you may terminate this License Agreement in accordance and must immediately stop using the Product. Your continued use of the Product following any revision to this License Agreement constitutes your complete and irrevocable acceptance of any and all such changes.

Ten more cards and you become a gold member. 💰
Bigger discount!

More cards of Sonya Blaze and Stacy Cruz available to you.

Ariela Donovan has four cards (so far)

@Evaneself said this:
When I like a girl, I don't care about her rating. I buy her card right and fast.Same with me. I never even look at the rating of cards, unless a card is mentioned as having a very low rating.
However, you never pay full price. You (like me) get all new cards at 45% off (for triple diamond) and then another 20% after that (for premium), thought not 65% off.
You are clearly not paying full price.
Full price is 25 credits usually; we each pay 11 credits usually.

By the way, I really like your avatar.
Tracy Smile, Shayla, Nata Ocean, Ellie Leen.
I own all of their cards.

I see.. Looks like i depend on ratings way too much and neglect the fact that my preference comes first. Will get one of ariela's soon 😄

Thanks @EverthangForever and @Z22

Corrections made on the FG738 and Sexual Predetor 1.1 scenes

The 2 scenes are now correct. 😊


Merci @EverthangForever et @Z22

Corrections faite sur les scènes FG738 et Sexual Predetor 1.1

Les 2 scènes sont maintenant correctes. 😊

@Z22

Maybe i didnt notice that type was upside down, but most of my scenes have shaders as inputs to other shader and never had a problem with y being flipped.@Calgon Could i see your scn code plz?

I DM'd a link to my current project as it's not yet awesome enough to put on here.

Will the same thing happen to desktop? Please clarify this.

When you buy a card Totem have said that you will retain the right to play that card forever, they have not said that about the streaming service.

The iStripper licence (you can see it via link near the bottom of the settings page) does contain text that says that Totem can change the conditions of use, but it also states that such cahnges will not be applied retrospectively. So Totem could change how they sell the cards but could not unilaterally remove your right to play any cards you have previously bought (but this does not apply to the streaming service which has different terms of use).

@echnaton192

.But I DID purchase cards on mobile… not all of them, but many. I am not one of those excited people. But be it as it may. You did what you did and I will need to adjust my trust in the invested money accordingly.

you did, but you are a user of iStripper desktop, and the shows purchased thru iStripper mobile Beta ARE in your desktop collection...

On discord (iStripper server), @LisaParadis said these things, in response to such questions:
Wait, don't get *****! The subscription model is only applied to the mobile version, it will not be applied to the web version I can assure you that

There is no possibility
At least not any time soon

Honestly there's no need to speculate or worry about the web version, we are very far from changing it, and we like it as it is.

“At least not anytime soon”. To me this translates to “We may change our business model at any time. And we do not need to honor your purchases, even for desktop. And this is something I will consider.

But as my arguments repeat themselves I think it is best for me to end this topic here.

On discord (iStripper server), @LisaParadis said these things, in response to such questions:

Wait, don't get *****! The subscription model is only applied to the mobile version, it will not be applied to the web version I can assure you that

There is no possibility
At least not any time soon

Honestly there's no need to speculate or worry about the web version, we are very far from changing it, and we like it as it is.

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

Will the same thing happen to desktop? Please clarify this.

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

But I DID purchase cards on mobile… not all of them, but many. I am not one of those excited people. But be it as it may. You did what you did and I will need to adjust my trust in the invested money accordingly.

Une lecture au second degré aurait été la bien venue, c'était une forme d'humour qui essayait de circuler à contre-courant, de renverser la vapeur et réchauffer ainsi toute cette négativité mal à propos.

C'est donc bien une lecture au premier degré... Le second degré impliquerait un sens à l'opposé, ce qui n'est pas le cas. Et la négativité est simplement l'expression de désaccords, qui ne sont pas mal à propos : ce sont des désaccords. Rien de plus, rien de moins.

C'est justement une dérive du terme "offre" qui pose débat ici pour les non-initiés aux règles du commerce, iStripper "vend" des services...

C'est le terme technique : on parle de l'offre et de la demande. Le terme "offre" n'implique pas la gratuité, et il n'est pas nécessaire d'être spécialiste en commerce ou en économie pour le savoir, c'est de notoriété publique. Personne ne peut imaginer, dans le contexte où on parle ici, qu'il s'agit de services gratuits.

Et c'est justement parce que Totem "vend" ces services que les clients sont en droit de les critiquer ! S'il s'agissait de services gratuits, on se trouverait effectivement dans de la négativité gratuite, mais on se trouve exactement dans la situation opposée.

Il s'agirait donc d'arrêter d'être dans la négativité en parlant de négativité 😆

LMAO!

No you didn't, your just being nice. 😎... 😕 I think. Not like I am checking your work. Because I can't.

Well if a girl comes and the writing is backwards i did.

No you didn't, your just being nice. 😎... 😕 I think. Not like I am checking your work. Because I can't.

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/29408/75?post=751847
@Calgon @ET

You should replace GetNormal3Oct.fsh with Refract.fsh

Gives a cleaner result without the high return on hard edges and doesnt use 3 input girls (there was a weird thing going on with them anyway)

edit: dangit, still forgot to add the scale: -1.0,1.0

Sexual Predetor 1.1
Cleaner normal map creation which doesnt create the hard edges.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qGzWwrmC7so5GT38tljaKAdml9FdZ-iJ/view?usp=share_link

I very much like a lot of girls.
I buy their cards XXX or not.
I am happy to have the cards in my collection.

The following girls are the ONLY girls in my collection with only e/f cards (nothing older) that are not fully owned by me. I am missing one or two of each girl. Besides the duos with Viola, the others are specific cards I do not want.
Agatha Vega, Bonnie Parker, Lola Reve, Merry Pie, Oxana Chic

I own all cards of other girls in my collection with ONLY e/f cards, plus Little Caprice, except the SECs.

I will continue to buy cards regardless of content. I just hope that both XXX and non-XXX continue to be produced. I would be less than happy if either one was stopped.

My favorite was the bottle cap one. (By @Evaneself)

Less of a bug and more i forgot to add it.

I love eyes more than any other part of the body, so YES, I say that avatar is beautiful.

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

In the early days (2007 to 2009) deskbabes did not even exist. It was only VirtuaGirlHD (and vguy).
I do not remember how many were released per week back then.
The first DeskBabes card came in 2010.

@Evaneself avatars are pretty awesome. 👍 😎

@Evaneself said this:

When I like a girl, I don't care about her rating. I buy her card right and fast.

Same with me. I never even look at the rating of cards, unless a card is mentioned as having a very low rating.
However, you never pay full price. You (like me) get all new cards at 45% off (for triple diamond) and then another 20% after that (for premium), thought not 65% off.
You are clearly not paying full price.
Full price is 25 credits usually; we each pay 11 credits usually.

By the way, I really like your avatar.
Tracy Smile, Shayla, Nata Ocean, Ellie Leen.
I own all of their cards.

No, you are not the weirdo here - unfortunately so in my view.

Effectivement, vous n'êtes pas ***** et certainement pas isolé😊 Quand on remarque que iS continue encore de produire des filles qui ne font aucune carte X, c'est désolant 😀

Indeed, you are not weird and certainly not isolated 😊 When we notice that iS still continues to produce girls who do not make any X cards, it's sad 😀

@hblanco88

No, you are not the weirdo here - unfortunately so in my view.

However, there are some (perhaps many) that much prefer the non-XXX parts of the shows. I don't disable them, but I do tend to immediately ***** a card once any XXX action begins. In the early days 5 VirtuaGirl cards (non-XXX) and 2 Deskbabes cards (XXX) were released each week - the ratio has now more than the reverse of that. But if that is what sells then so be it.

Disabling XXX clips does not adequately address the issue for those of us that do not particularly want XXX as that significantly reduces the playing time - in some cases by much more than 50% as there are quite a few cards that feature long clips in which there are only short XXX sections towards the ends of those clips.

When I like a girl, I don't care about her rating. I buy her card right and fast. Sometimes at full price, because of her beauty for which I can't wait.
Ariela Donovan is not in my Wishlist and the tastes are not discussed. This does not mean that she is not beautiful, only that some beauties are accepted as beautiful by more viewers.

Then I am the weirdo one here. I would love ALL the cards to have some kind of XXX content.
Beside I don't understand when you said you want more balance in the cards. In most of the cards with XXX content their runtime are very balancedly split 50/50, 40/60, 60/40 nude only vs xxx

Also if the xxx content bothers you then you have the option to uncheck the xxx scenes

I dunno yet I have only seen the one card so far. Few do full reviews as it takes time but we do like it when members go to the trouble. I wouldn't be too worried about low ratings as this means little. Many cards are bought but then are never rated no matter how many times they might be played by a user.

Yea... Im gonna pass on this, only reason i used the app was to view the cards i bought that happened to be mobile for my viewing pleasure on the go...

glad i can make more space on my phone cya.

Yeah, that works. scale: -1, 1 after source: Clip

I knew that, it was there in the forum. Probably I got it from @EverthangForever but couldn't find it later.

I try to leave these things to people that can see the matrix 'cause I dunno what I am doing. 😄 😎

Merci @ComteDracula.. Un bon résultat
Pour FG738 Oui, la gauche-droite est inversée pour le modèle.
C'était un bug laissé par @Z22 code, désolé pour cela.
Pour résoudre ce problème, ajoutez simplement pour chacun des trois nœuds clipsprite.
--
Thanks @ComteDracula..a good outcome
For FG738 Yes the left-right is reversed for the model.
It was a left over bug from @Z22 code , sorry about that.
To fix this simply add for each of the three clipsprite nodes..

source: Clip
scale: -1, 1

@masserect

... Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards ...

I'm curious Where do you get this data from, or is it just speculation?

So far, only Three members ( I have seen ) have expressed that they were ONLY Mobile users.

That was why I had asked for member to note how often they used the Desktop vs Mobile.

I don't think many people will leave due to this since there is no alternative to iStripper, that I know of. Should there be though, I'm pretty sure this move would have been a shot in the foot. I'm not an avid user of the mobile feature, but I liked the option to every now and then use it; this "decision" to change the "economic model" is strictly a way to get us to fork over more money. Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards, and now they have to pay more for content they already bought? I would be beyond livid.
If this decision had been made taking into account, even slightly, the consumers thoughts, they could at least offer to refund the "mobile cards" for credits to be used to but the damned "subscription".
At the end of the day, iStripper is just a company trying to make a profit, not an NGO for consumer rights. But like any business, I'd be wary of decisions/moves that antagonise big chunks of their clientele. Because, also, at the end of the day they are lucky for not having any real competition on this market... Yet?

There are plenty of alternatives if a pricey product is untrustworthy and flaunts the fact that the hundreds and thousands that customers spend is actually worthless and the product can be put behind a paywall at anytime, which is what they have clearly stated. They offer no protection nor promises. 98% of the girls are naked other places, sometimes their performances are better...it is a unique product but not that unique.

As my first post ever, I would like to state that I do not think this is very smart and it makes me very sad :(

Maybe i didnt notice that type was upside down, but most of my scenes have shaders as inputs to other shader and never had a problem with y being flipped.

@Calgon Could i see your scn code plz?

Thanks @EverthangForever.

All scenes FG737 to FG750 work fine for me.

And as mentioned, I also noticed a left/right image inversion in the FG738 scene. One girl had iStripper reversed on her t-shirt.


Merci @EverthangForever.

Toutes les scènes FG737 à FG750 fonctionnent bien pour moi.

Et comme il a été dit, j'ai constaté également une inversion gauche / droite de l'image dans la scène FG738. Une fille avait iStripper inversé sur son t-shirt.

err, what? i've never had a problem swapping out an image for a shader. Did you set up a framebuffer for that shader eg;-

framebuffer
{
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Backgroundshader

quad
{
// you might need pos:, size:, hotspot: in here too, cant remember off hand
shader: fragment, Backgroundshader.fsh
}
}

framebuffer
{
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Refract

sprite
{
source: Girl01, 0
source: Backgroundshader, 1
source: Girl02, 2
source: Girl03, 3
shader: fragment, GetNormal3Oct.fsh
}
}

@Philours

It's implicit in that it was a Beta version.

@echnaton192

You bought the right to play a card just as if you had bought it via the app or the normal web site, While the mobile site was in beta test you had the ability (not the right) to also stream the card. It is the streaming service that is now seperately payed for.

I do agree with you all that the change came as a bit of a shock, especially the price, But it was quite consistent with what Totem has said about the mobile site.

Whether the change, and again especially the price, was a wise decision is a different thing - one about which i am expressing no opinion.

I don't think many people will leave due to this since there is no alternative to iStripper, that I know of. Should there be though, I'm pretty sure this move would have been a shot in the foot. I'm not an avid user of the mobile feature, but I liked the option to every now and then use it; this "decision" to change the "economic model" is strictly a way to get us to fork over more money. Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards, and now they have to pay more for content they already bought? I would be beyond livid.
If this decision had been made taking into account, even slightly, the consumers thoughts, they could at least offer to refund the "mobile cards" for credits to be used to but the damned "subscription".
At the end of the day, iStripper is just a company trying to make a profit, not an NGO for consumer rights. But like any business, I'd be wary of decisions/moves that antagonise big chunks of their clientele. Because, also, at the end of the day they are lucky for not having any real competition on this market... Yet?

Customers are the centerpiece of any successful business, seems to me this decision will cost Totem more revenue from both platforms by driving away existing customers than it will possibly bring in from remaining customers. Popular streaming platforms are looking for ways to lower subsciption fees to keep already existing customers from leaving with the current world economic situation rather than putting already subscribed content behind further paywalls. If you ask me, I don't think this new mobile model will last in today's economy.

But the way iStripper went about my purchases and the spent money to me is a sign that they can void their side of the bargain at any time for any reason.
But did they "void their side of the contract" ? If the free version was indeed introduced as a beta test for a trial period then nothing has been voided - you were given a "free trial period" in exchange for acting as a tester of the program - something that seems to be quite a common practice. That you, and I, had forgotten that it was a beta test doesn't change things - only how we feel about them.

Now, I do think the price for the streaming service is high - but as I am not interrested in it even as a free service any price would be too high for me.

To me it is simple: I bought the card on mobile. To use on mobile and desktop. Beta does not void the purchased good in my view. I have seldomly seen anyone *buying* “beta” software or goods who does not get the final product.

But be it as it may. I will act according to my disappointment as a customer.

Thanks @EverthangForever @TheEmu - I changed the coord system in the shader as a workaround but it would be better to deal with it in the scn file.

for a trial period

Or do you see this?