***Deskbaes***
'DeskBabes becomes iStripper, New Interface, New features and Sexier than ever!' ... <Emotional Moment 😢> ... very good and naughty memories.

Awesome! that sexual pictures of the website DeskBabes.com still exist. These girls are, so hot!! 😍 even the website turns me on !! haha

Estonika 💋

Without going to porn I think it is reasonable to keep a noticeable difference between the clips iStripper and those XXX.
There are a considerable number of clips for those who only desire very soft erotica.

For my part, and it is an old debate, my wish will be towards the return of the duos.

I just checked out Mikki's demo...

Her pics show her with a nice tan but that;s not the case.

How is her show? I'm really on the fence about her.

I was very happy when I saw that iStripper XXX is going to be similiar to regular cards. As I said before in another topic: I'm here for dancing and teasing, not for XXX action.

***Comment to lukaszr***
I agree with you here!, Really!. There needs to be kind of Mid-Level XXX Card for Customers like 'you',

***Reminder given Special Request***
As I suggested to 'Totem Entertainment in specific to them: We Need A Third Type of Card that goes in between level iStripper Regular and iStripper XXX (The New Format)(I will even buy those mid-level Cards). But please for satisfaction for "ALL" of your customers, add the New XXX Format as Third Type Card with an another name OR give the Old XXX Rated Format a new name "iBabes Cards". All Customers happy, isn't that what we all want? 😜😀

And I know there are members aswell on the other side on the Forum, telling "Third type of Card??" "no!!, Why??"...but that is just selfish..Really😢. I'm glad, you as Totem Entertainment has to make the end decission. All type of content that offers the solution for all members is automaticly the best choice, right?

Thanks for reading, Terbone 😎

If Totem keeps delivering cards like Mikki I could care less what direction this ship is steered in. I would follow her off a cliff. Its been a long time since a demo made my mouth hit the floor. Great freaking work team.

I opened up Mikki's Firefly card and it was a treasure trove!

In the last paragraph of my previous post please read "swept" where I had written "sept". I tried to correct the spelling but was too late because KatzPaw posted something before I could submit the edit.

(The latest version of the software seems to handle this a bit better than earlier versions in that it no longer results in there being two almost identical posts - but the error message about me being forbidden to post was a bit "scary".)

One thing customers need to understand, some of the models don't do toys, only finger stuff. So if you see a model that's all fingers, there is a good chance that's all they will do at this point in their career. I don't think the team making a decision to exclude toys. Myself I would like to have the fingering over not having an xxx card at all for that model.

@cncbehrends29 says

Maybe you all should tell us what kind of clips are included in cards and how many.

and I agree with him. Pop up summaries on the Girls Store page and on the various carousels giving the number of clips of each type for a card would be a useful addition. The information is all readily available and it just needs a way to ask that it be displayed (it would, I think, be too intrusive to always display it, so there needs to be some way to ask for this information). I suspect that there are quite a few who would use the information to guide their purchases.

It could, perhaps, also be added to the cards on the My Collection page. It would not be as useful there but if its on the cards on the Girls Store page it would seem sensible to have it there as well, if only for consistancy.

Although I personaly don't agree with him about the importance of the arse there are those that do. Perhaps the carousels could eventualy offer the option to see a rear view of each model as an alternative to the frontal view now provided.

cncbehrends29 also said

Cages and swings... I ***** them both. The cage is unappealing and the swing is pointless.

This time, although I see his point, I disagree. I think both were a good idea that did not quite work out as hoped.

Cages are rather too intrusive on the desktop (though great in fullscreen scenes designed to use them). I would like to see them return every now and again. Perhaps a lighter style of cage would work better on the desktop - e.g. one with two thick bars near the center of the front of the cage (so that the girls could lift themselves up on them as they often did with the old cages) but with thinner bars at the sides so that the cage was not so obtrusive.

I quite like seeing the occassional swing clip, but always feel that they are lacking something. When I use them in fullscreen scenes I always add a few degrees of side to side swaying motion which makes the overall motion a bit more lively. Perhaps there could be clips where the girl is standing on the swing - some of these could be rear views.

For some swing clips the swing could be made deeper and wider so that it became a swinging platform. The girls could then lie on it over a cushion that raised their hips, or could just kneel or crouch on it with their arses in the air and pointing towards the camera.

Swing clips featuring a trapeze or a suspended hoop would also be good - but would need girls who knew how to use them properly rather thann just sit and gently swing on them, and such girls are likely to be rare.

I like cncbehrends29's idea of a trampoline, but am not certain that it would be practical - but the alternatives of jumping jacks, jumping on the spot and skipping ought to be possible (there are already a few cards that feature such things, but they are few and far between).

The idea of such clips reminds me of an old "Tomorrow's World" program broadcast by the BBC in the late sixties or very early seventies. In it the rather well endowed female presenter was being shown a new vibration platform used to test satellites. She was standing on it as the vibration frequency was sept up and down. A more memorable example of resonance I have never seen.

As I stated in another thread, I like to see dancing clips in XXX cards, so I support the new format, but it needs:

• the introducing clip back (done)
• more sound, at least in all table clips (done)
• MORE xxx action (if it's a XXX card, it should have more XXX than a regular card)
• more toys, at least one clip pro card.

About XXX: as once @Wyldanimal stated (and as we all can see in older and classic cards), XXX content has always been in the product; I like it and I absolutely don't want to see it gradually disappear. I, instead, think that every regular card too should have at least an XXX clip.

Thanks for the attention!

Thanks a lot at all the team for fixing the text colour in the palette for the skins, nice work :) have all a good day ;)

Maybe not all I have to say, I just read everyone's responses. You know me, I love to talk and make my opinion heard lol. I know, I need to work on the self-importance issue I have but I dropped out of high school as a kid, never graduated and was in and out of jail. I joined the military, straightened out my life and today I have 4 associate degrees and almost done with my bachelors. I just fell like I have a lot to prove to myself and my family and I go about it the wrong way. At least I'm honest with myself.

That said, I saw a lot of people ***** xxx cards is if they were ***** to buy them. They are two seperate things but now that Totem merged buying them with iStripper cards, I've bought xxx cards on accident more than a few times. Partially my fault since there is a filter in the girl store but they also show up when looking at all of the girl's cards in the card section within the girl's card. I think these need to be seperated in that screen.

Cages and swings... I ***** them both. The cage is unappealing and the swing is pointless. I did, however; recommend a trampoline in the suggestion forums. Girls bouncing on a trampoline with the boobs and butt bouncing... how can you say no to that? I feel you should at least give it a go.

Duo cards. I'm sad to see them go. I'm sure it costs twice as much and you sell them for the same price so I get it. If I were you though, I would pair girls with high ratings and sell for a little more than a duo.

There are a lot of girls on this site that I would pay a double price to see together in an XXX card. Mia Malkova and Nekane/Ria Rodriguez/Carolina Abril/Lexi Belle/Valentina Nappi/Vanessa Mio... you get the idea. Quality girls, not just randomly pairing girls that are available like you've done in the past.

Ok, now I'm really done. Peace out :)

I stopped buying XXX cards, like a lot of other people, becuase they were almost always completely table shows. Add a few standing clips so we can see the girls ass to each card and I'll start buying them again.

I've been told there are standing clips in some XXX cards but with no way to confirm that until after you buy the card, I'm not going to waste the money to find out. Maybe you all should tell us what kind of clips are included in cards and how many.

I didn't really mind the old format as far as the explicity goes. It's XXX; it's what you'd expect. I don't mind if you tone it down and make it more elegant and sensual instead of a dildo fest.

I'm not happy with the previews as of now and don't really care if you add nudity in them or not. I stopped downloading and watching them as well. Most weren't helpful anyway as they don't show the girls ass. You guys need to understand that you have members that are here for the ass. Most of your preview pictures don't show it as well as your preview dances. That's not too much to ask to show the ass of each girl and the boobs for the boob guys. We are the majority and you lose sales from me all the time because of it.

I know there are other guys on here that love legs, feet and even armpits. If you would quit being lazy and pick quality previews and preview pictures that were actually helpful, we all would be a lot happier.

That's all I have to say.

It has been suggested that XXX cards are becoming nothing more than non-XXX cards with a few XXX clips added. It has also been suggested that those who do not want XXX action can just disable those clips. In my opinion neither of these are true, nor should they be. Even though the structure if the two ranges of cards are converging they should still differ in at least the following aspects (over and above the obvious one of the presence of XXX content)

Clothing and initial state of undress

I would expect that, on average, the style of clothing would differ between XXX and non-XXX cards. Cards in which the girls are wearing ordinary, everyday clothing could be expected to be common in the non-XXX range but rather rare in the XXX range, conversely "exotic" clothing such as crotchless panties and fetish wear could be expected to be more common among the XXX cards.

I would expect that XXX cards that started with a fully dressed performer would be less common than for the non-XXX cards.

Rate of progression of hotness level.

I would expect that the XXX cards would tend to pass through the lower "hotness" levels somewhat more quickly than was the case for the non-XXX cards, though not necessarily very much more so - there should be some variation in pace between cards. However the the XXX cards can include crotch grabbing and light masterbation clips as well as those in which a sex toy is shown or lightly used while still dressed so this does not necessarily mean that an XXX card should always imply a fast "race to nakednes".

Proportion of table clips

I would expect that XXX cards have a higher proportion of table clips than the non-XXX cards as these seem slightly better suited to the XXX cards than the non-XXX cards.

Here is an example of what I have in mind: I set show duration to all clips. I activate iStripper XXX only. I click a new checkbox below progressive hotness called "controlled hotness". An iStripper XXX card starts playing but only the first two hotness levels. It continues playing clips for the same card from those two levels until I right-click and select the new "hotter" control. Now it plays only clips that are topless or nudity. Each time I select hotter it moves up a level until all I'm seeing are XXX clips. The card doesn't change until I right-clip and select next model or next outfit at which time the hotness resets to tease.

I can think of lots of ways to embellish the above capability. You might offer 3 or 4 levels of controlled hotness where the user can defined which hotness level(s) each level of controlled hotness includes. You might allow the user to preset that the hotness level steps up after a certain number of clips have been played at a particular level. You might allow the users to select staging as well as hotness level. For example, I might want to start every new card with a window washing clip if one was available. Or, perhaps I want a mix of standing and pole clips at the first level and on bar teasing clips at the next with XXX only at the highest.

I see I have drifted off topic so I'll stop now.

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This would be ideal, allow to save the progressive playment of one or more groups of progressive hotness which should be sticky settings (so remembering these settings and playment location when switching to another model then back to the current, with a reset to default option. Allow suppression of certain models in the context menu so as to ignore and remove from the playlist entirely, so not just a skip but skip and inactivate so it wont play again).

Normal cards and XXX cards should clearly be different, they are labeled as different products. You buy a normal card you expect the stripping and dancing, you buy an xxx card you expect xxx things happening, whether it's standing, pole usage or taskbar clips. They have been 100% XXX focused with some stripping foreplay, the outcry was for diversity in the cards, not watering down the XXX.

In those cases where two or more clips are just adjacent parts of an original longer performance it would be nice if there was the option to play them without any breaks, i.e. as if they were a single longer clip. This would satisfy those of us that prefer seeing all stages of long full performances and those that only want to see certain stages of them. But I have no idea how practical it would be.

I agree completely, @TheEmu! I'm thinking of one DeskBabes card in particular (Linet A & Sasha Jones Duo #532) where "Scene 4" is split into 3 pieces. Unfortunately, the clip breaks are not in places where there is a break in the action.

Te tripple x stuff has no great appeal to me. I realize that there are different strokes fr different folks. I have always like the strip in strip tease. The tease is just as important. Any bimbo can strip off her clothes and masterbate bretending to enjoy it. No art in that. But a dancer heo know out to move her body, to tease with timing and aluring looks, is much better. Leaving things to the imagination of the view is ofter much better. The imagination is personal and limitless.

I am a long time subscriber. Virutagirl was so beautiful a product because it was not just more porn. There is plenty of porn out there. Free porn and porn you can purchase. Your product has alway been far more original and unique.

The performers who have stage presence, dancing talent, and beauty hold the most appeal for me. I like professional talented striptease artists rather that porn bimbos.

@Katzpaw asked

Am I the only one who seems to like a 3-4 clip scene structure running about 10-12 minutes?

I prefer having mostly 3 to 4 minute clips, and would like having even longer clips, to the alternative of a larger number of much shorter clips. However, I see why those who want to skip straight to the "action" would dislike longer clips and I would not be in favour of very long clips that started at the XXX level.

In those cases where two or more clips are just adjacent parts of an original longer performance it would be nice if there was the option to play them without any breaks, i.e. as if they were a single longer clip. This would satisfy those of us that prefer seeing all stages of long full performances and those that only want to see certain stages of them. But I have no idea how practical it would be.

Why even change ?
Honestly this feels a LOT like a nerfing down of the format. I really don't see how this could ever be supposed to make these cards better. As of late there have been very few XXX cards and now you make them even less different from the other cards ? At this rate why don't you just stop making XXX cards and just randomly produce a card with one or two XXX clips in it ? Won't make much of a difference honestly :(
That's sad. XXX cards were the main reason I came here so if you go on like this I'll probably just stop buying cards altogether.

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I've been off Virtualgirl for over a year due to a dead OS moved and then could not find my install disks so I had to get Windows 10. But not until after the free download was over. What is the new format vs. the old one? I can tell you this much. The video quality is excellent. They seem to have gotten the right lighting with green screen formula down. No choppy edges that I can see.

I love the new format.

The only thing i think you should need to improve is better costumes or cosplays, as an example older cards that used to have costumes like military, stewardness, maids, police, cowgirls and other with such originality. The recent ones i dont even bother to buy because they all are in lingerie.

I voted for the "old" format with some tuning.

First, I own every card. Yes, every single "VirtuaGirl", "DeskBabes", "VirtuaGirlClassic", "iStripper", and "iStripperXXX" card. I will continue to buy every one, and I don't have them running most of the time.

However, when I go back and look at early DeskBabes cards vs. later DeskBabes cards vs. the first several iStripperXXX cards vs. the last several iStripperXXX cards I find something of a disturbing trend. Note that I'm referring only to Solo cards. Duo cards aren't the same, and since Totem has decided to stop the Duo card, it doesn't really matter. I also ignored the "Preview" clips, as most of them are "No Nudity" and very short (about 20 seconds).

The first DeskBabes cards have mostly short (less than 2 minute) clips, with about half "Full Nudity" and half "XXX". As far as "Table" vs. "Standing", it depends greatly on the model, but seems to be weighted toward the "Table" clips.

Later DeskBabes cards begin to have longer clips, but still about the same total length of film. That means fewer clips, but each clip is about twice as long. Still about the same ratio of "Full Nudity" to "XXX", both in terms of number of clips and time.

There are some cards with very few XXX clips. For example, Linet A #531 has 3 XXX clips out of 10 total, comprising 12:22 out of 35:44 total time.

There are also some cards with almost all XXX clips. For example, Angel Diamond #575 has only 1 clip of 4 minutes that is not XXX.

These later cards also tend to be almost exclusively "Table" clips, even for the clips that aren't XXX.

The very first iStripperXXX card (Vanessa Black) and the very last DeskBabes card (Vanessa Decker) have almost exactly the same split for number of clips between XXX and everything else, but Ms. Black's clips are about twice as long as Ms. Decker's.

By the time I get to Tricia Teen's card (#112) however, there are far fewer XXX clips and thus a significantly lower percentage of total time devoted to XXX.

The last iStripperXXX card (Rebecca Volpetti #206) has only two XXX clips, each about 4:45 long, but 12 other clips for a total of over 20 minutes. This means that she has 6 times more clips not touching herself and spends more than twice as much time not touching herself at some point during the clip.

I realize this is a long post, so here's the point:

DeskBabes moved from short clips with XXX material in them to longer clips with XXX in them. This is a good thing. iStripperXXX moved from several longer clips with XXX in them to fewer clips of the same length with XXX in them. This is a bad thing.

I like longer clips (4 to 5 minutes) with most of them containing XXX material. That's why it's called iStripperXXX. These are supposed to be strippers, not porn stars, but if you're going to call it XXX, it should have XXX material. But there should be some dancing and teasing. It isn't iXXX, but iStripperXXX.

I would LOVE to see some cosplay, and or body painted costumes get implemented. Those with some butt jewels and tails I think would be a fairly nice touch. I think it would be a nice touch. Also, I would like to see more workout oriented clips, not necessarily weights, but jumping activities and such. Plus, I like the apparel (sports bras and booty shorts "yoga pants are my kryptonite" ;)

Something was revealed about Tina Kay in this thread...but it looks like you're cutting onions atm so you can't see it 😆

Alina definitely has some thick thighs and full hips, giving me hope that she might have a great ass.😜

I can hope, can't I?

I was really expecting something about Tina Kay to be revealed in this thread 😆

Cages 👎 Poles 👍

They are super clunky on the desktop, there are of course some really hot clips, but overall they were distracting.

Am I the only one who seems to like a 3-4 clip scene structure running about 10-12 minutes?

I also like the idea that not every card has to be cookie cutter, have one with pole focus other with standing focus. These shows can be tailor made for specifics rather than many random stripping clips like the normal cards Longer teasing, heavier petting in the standing and pole clips, xxx ***** under clothing or with clothing on still. XXX cards should have a much more lustful feel over a normal card.

The pole xxx clip is high on my list to see, holding onto the pole riding a toy sounds amazing.

Animal print is so damn sexy I swear 😛

The new format sounds good to me. I'll take quality over explicitness anytime.

Miss the duos but things change, Just keep giving us beautiful sexy motivated girls.

I understand how you feel but please don't *****...I mean don't stress over it because these things happen...just sit down, breathe and relax...enjoy what you do have...I'm sure Tina Kay would want you to do the same! *hugs* 😊💙

Sorry, I´m not rally understand ... I´m from Germany ... Can i change the language? And how can i see the new format? What is the different?

I like what you did with the Cara Mell set. The istripper cards were more about teasing and the dancing was slower and more sensual. The one hybrid card was more fast paced , much sexier, with some light twerking and shaking. I know that most girls of late don't have the body that Cara Mell has and therefore lack the flexibility to be both slow/sensual and fast/sexy but it was epic to see, and it encourage more card buying. Make the xxx dance simulate sex movements, whereas the regular sets simulate strip tease. Heck, you could even pair outfits. So istripper regular series has a full piece business set with lingerie underneath. And then the accompanying xxx card has just the full lingerie. Any direction that adds more dancing and encourages a diversity of moves if best. I think every girl on the site can learn to shake their ass, do the splits to the best of their abilities, and use the poll as a prop well enough to show off.

less fake boobs,

I like it a lot when a xxx card brings on foot clips, i was very boring with only table clips, please add more clips dancing in a xxx way, i would buy them instantly.

Resolution** 😳

Ahh, understandable 😪

If I want to see a girl with a dildo I choose the XXX. If I want to see a strip, I'll buy the other. I have little interest in hand masterbation. But I understand everyone is different. I like the introductions even though I almost never have the sound on.

In any case you should be ok, as long as you keep the quality of the girls high. Don't let the quality of the women sink into the abyss like you have in the past.

Sound is the most important component for me :) Thanks for reaching out to your consumers for feedback. Side note: would be interesting to know what music they were dancing to. I'm guessing it would cost more to be able to include the actual music (copyright, etc.) or else that would be a great addition as well.

new format is FAR better. I love that there are very hot pole and standing clips now instead of just finger or dildofest. I buy these now every time when In only baught the old ones when the model was extremely hot or I had credits ***** a hole in my account..

cuz of technical difficulties 😱

There are still missing something: oiled bodys. I would like to see more girls covered with oil.

So true!

I think the new format is great, it just needs to be purposeful. IstripperXXX should be littered with pantiless/crotchless outfits, sheer lingerie, cupless bras, micro bikinis, tube skirts/tops with nothing underneath, masturbating on the glass, etc. I think the new outfit has more potential for more interesting shows, but the format could be lazily produced to just be Istripper with a dildo.

Tina Kay's #0199 Unsap my Top. and Estonika's #0196 Higher Education are what the new XXX format should be. The format should take advantage of being explicit from the beginning. This should not be A regular VG/Istripper card that just has dildos or some fingering. I ***** the future of the format will often lead to cards like Tina Kay's #0200 Yours for A Day. I feel like the new format should be essentially gimmicks/more outragous outfits, that are accented with a few table and masturbation clips. The old clips did get boring to a point. especially when its nearly the same routine making mutilple cards redundant. The worst offender was Tracy Smile's XXX cards.

(Some of) Alina N

If a user doesn't want XXX content, they can disable it from settings. If there's some non-XXX and XXX content and a switch to disable XXX, then everybody can be happy.

That is not quite true. I want XXX content, but in XXX shows I would like a lower proportion of it than was previously the case. This could be provided by increasing the overall length of a show, in which case the above quote would be true, but that is not really an option.

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not, but why is 1080p the highest resoultion for this card? There are 2 cards released before this one that has 3k resoultion.