@CwHart - yes the logic goes both ways, and from the evidence so far - principally that Totem repeated the Advent Calendar, made a third in many ways similar offer for Black Friday and now are using the same "bait" again - it would seem that despite the noise on this forum from what are a tiny proprtion of their customers the tactic worked (i.e. resulted in increased income) with the customer base as a whole.

I'll give them credit they sure did a good job screwing me out of 250 credits, guess lesson learned not to allow myself to get fooled again at a game of chance. Oh and BTW once again my point went over your head. But at this point I guess that is to be expected.

I'll repeat this ONE more time........

Let's not use this thread for ***** about certain cards and their availability. You can ***** about Ginebra's Flash Flood card in the TGIF thread if you want.

This thread is specifically for informing those who want to know what's coming soon. Nothing more.

Now, let's get back on the right topic, please.

Thank you


Edit:
This IS NOT the thread to be discussing this in

@CwHart - yes the logic goes both ways, and from the evidence so far - principally that Totem repeated the Advent Calendar, made a third in many ways similar offer for Black Friday and now are using the same "bait" again - it would seem that despite the noise on this forum from what are a tiny proprtion of their customers the tactic worked (i.e. resulted in increased income) with the customer base as a whole.

@CwHart -

I have seen many special offers where what is in the package is not fully known when you buy it. Trivial examples are the "free offers" that used to be common in cereal packages or more recently with various fast food offerings (or further back in time there were cigarette cards, bubblegum cards or in packets of tea ).

In any case the point I was making was independant of the form of the offer. The reason why the offers are made in the first place is to encourage customers to buy more than than they otherwise would - this is true whether you can choose freely, choose from a limited selection or get a totally random "gift". You know before you partake what the terms are and you choose whether to participate or not.

My point went over your head or you are being willfulling ignorant, in the end you still get the product you want, just with alittle extra. You as a consumer are still getting something out of it, while still purchasing a desired item even if its a brand you dont normally get, it's still the desire item you want. This case I am not getting what I want period along with what I want, rather am left with items I do not wish to have. I know the terms but if I sure as hell didn't know I was gonna dump 250 credits and still be out with products I did not want and not have the product I did. Do you under stand the nuance of what you are saying and what is going on?

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

You do know that logic goes both ways right? When a consumer is unhappy with a product or the dealings of a company that they have invested money into their products for years, that gives them the right to *****. It's no different than going to a grocery store and finding out they no longer have the product you want, accept this time they actually do have the product you want but you are expected to get it out of a slot machine with a chance of getting other products you do not want. I honestly have no clue about the goose game, but I assume with it being brought up so much it wasn't received well, but atleast I assume it didn't have an exclusive attached to you that you have to luck your way into

For me, I use google chrome on my PC and it first opens with the original landing and then quickly changes to the new one. Did the same thing with the last 'new' landing page as well. My phone uses safari. It did and does the same thing there too.

@CwHart -

I have seen many special offers where what is in the package is not fully known when you buy it. Trivial examples are the "free offers" that used to be common in cereal packages or more recently with various fast food offerings (or further back in time there were cigarette cards, bubblegum cards or in packets of tea ).

In any case the point I was making was independant of the form of the offer. The reason why the offers are made in the first place is to encourage customers to buy more than than they otherwise would - this is true whether you can choose freely, choose from a limited selection or get a totally random "gift". You know before you partake what the terms are and you choose whether to participate or not.

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

I understand that people are upset about certain aspects and have a right to voice their concerns. However........
Please settle down a bit and try to be more respectful toward each other.

Also, please respect this comment and do not give any rude rebuttal about who said what, and to whom

Thank you

@mapps

***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair
Nobody is ***** anybody to do anything. You are given a choice to either accept the terms of the offer or to ignore it. This may mean that you choose not to attempt to get a card that under other circumstances you would buy, but it is it entirely your choice. It may be a hard choice to make, but that will be a major reason why there it is a special offer in the first place. Many such offers by any comercial concern are attempts to tempt you into buying things that you would otherwise not buy, Totem are no different from your local supermarket or bookstore in this respect.

Sorry but I have to shut this down cause like the casino comparison this is just a wrong comparison. Ya see the advent calander worked this way, but this current deal does not. The special offer at supermarkets and bookstores isnt a gamble, it's buy this that you want and get this that you may not want but can have for free. It's giving you more in exchange for the same price and you still get what you want in the process. This is the opposite, very much so.

Here is the deal, I understand for people who do not have alot of cards that this is a good deal, I honestly get that. What I do not get is how that is an excuse to attach a card that can only get through the deal on it. See I buy the cards I want as they come out. I dont collect, I dont aim for 100%, I am just like "I like this model, I want to own her whole collecting" I dumped 250 credits for 18 cards I did not want and and a ball park of over 250 in winnings rolled over. 500 credits, that is by all acounts 50 bucks, but I am just gonna say i spent around 25, just to try and get this one card.

One mod said akined this to a casino, don't like to stakes dont play the game. But that is such a terrible analogy. When I joined 5 years ago I never expected the idea of exclusive cards to happen, and I sure as hell didn't expect the only way I can win one is through a game of chance, while before it was just doing a bunch of deals to guarentee you get the card. People go into casinos knowing what to expect, they become a patron because they know they expect gambling. No one became a patron of this product expecting this kind of crap. So yeah, this sort of thing for already existing cards, never had a problem. With this one exclusive, well consider me jaded even more than before.

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

A piss off attitude from a mod, nice. But I guess that is to be expected I mean we get an I dont give a damn attitude from the actual team when people are hammering away on this bs to their paying customers.

And further more when I go into a casino I know exactly what I am expecting. I did not expect us to get these bullshit exclusive cards and hack games to try and win them when I first started invesing money into Virtual Girl (now istripper) 5 years ago. So get the hell out of here with that crap

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

Please do not be disrespectful to customers. This is not a casino. It is istripper. Although it appears that even moderators are getting *****. The customer you chastized spent 300 credits to get cards they do not want and they did not get the special event card. And remember they still have 1000s of card available to them because they are single diamond. A customer should get at least 15 cards they want AND the special event card for 30 dollars. That is $2 a card. Totem could have offered wishlist cards, let people choose their free cards, instead they created a game that gives undesired cards, for a bloated price, and no guarentee of the special card. And they do not reveal the odds and the rules are unclear. There is plenty of reason to be critical of this promotion, even for new users.

Firefox on smartphone is the old landing page too.

Vicky Love, not bad too 😘

This is the new landing page for mobile devices. I've the same page as always on Win10 and Firefox too.

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

I absolutely do not think it's a good thing to make special event cards only to be obtained by a chance game. So far special event cards could be obtained by preorder like with the advent calendar or by partaking in the black friday deals. I am also fine with making them now part of such a game of chance but to do it with a brand new special card is really shitty to the most loyal customers who have been around for 10 years and more and bought all that Totem released so far.

@Team: you should really think hard about this next week.

@chocopop : quitte le programme et relance-le. Vérifie également que ton antivirus ne bloque pas iStripper. Avec la souris, il faut bien balayer toute la surface du cercle pour bien faire apparaître l'image en-dessous.

Let's not use this thread for ***** about certain cards and their availability. You can ***** about Ginebra's Flash Flood card in the TGIF thread if you want.

This thread is specifically for informing those who want to know what's coming soon. Nothing more.

Now, let's get back on the right topic, please.

Thank you

J'ai acheté 5 cartes, je ne peux pas les gratter!!!!

Just spent 30 dollars trying to get Flash Flood. Now I have a bunch of cards I don't want and no Flash Flood. >:(

Damn after everything that was said here @Fiddlestick had the best post (IMHO)

Thank you i needed to read that.

Is there a preview of that card anywhere?

https://www.istripper.com/model/show/f0440

@mapps

***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair

Nobody is ***** anybody to do anything. You are given a choice to either accept the terms of the offer or to ignore it. This may mean that you choose not to attempt to get a card that under other circumstances you would buy, but it is it entirely your choice. It may be a hard choice to make, but that will be a major reason why there it is a special offer in the first place. Many such offers by any comercial concern are attempts to tempt you into buying things that you would otherwise not buy, Totem are no different from your local supermarket or bookstore in this respect.

Thanks every forum I looked in seem like the wrong one. Not gonna play a game winning cards i don't want in th hope of getting one i do want. I ahve 2225 cards. I purchase every card I want when it comes out. I check the site every day to see what's new. ***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair. If I could buy the card I would have it already and iStripper would have my money already. But this way I don't get the card and you don't get my money.

On firefox I have the same landing page as always.

And another new landing page was added to iStripper.com

wow some nice 3,8 stars cards I got there for 100 credits. What a terrible ripoff

Make judgments based on other people's ratings, do we ? Well, there's a problem with that. Most cards with low ratings have those low ratings for reasons totally unrelated to the girl, her outfit and/or her performance. Way too many people want to give ratings of one or even zero if they have an issue trying to download a card. That has absolutely nothing to do with the show they are supposed to be rating. I know it's like that. All you have to do is read the comments on some cards to verify it for yourself because some of those members voice that in the comments. They also like to do that when a card is tied to a promo or something.

I've missed out on the last 3 Special Event/Exclusive cards. I don't care for the extra costs associated with them combined with the acquisition of many cards that just don't interest me. I ***** most of the games of chance because they just chew up credits that I could've applied directly to the purchase of specific wishlist cards. Although some of the games seem designed towards some type of fun addiction factor, I've never come out ahead or done well at any of them. So I don't even try anymore.

I love the straight across discounts, as do most customers & professional shopaholics. That's when I stock up on credits & spend until I get everything I want. I really like having these girls stripping on my desktop.

Team TOTEM, please consider occasionally adding more weekend events where 15%-25% off discounts can be applied to any cards that the customer wants. Putting the poor quality 480p Virtuagirl Classic cards on sale for 50% off would be attractive to those that normally avoid the older cards. Even for a limited time, maybe once or twice a year, making all Special Event/Exclusive cards available for purchase at a premium would probably make a lot of disgruntled customers happy once again.

This is clearly the largest amount of complaints that I've personally ever seen in the forum & just wanted to offer a few constructive suggestions. Thank you for the development of this amazing product.

So I took a risk and start playing the game.
The damage after getting the Special card.

Cards
Win 46
Wanted 12
Not wanted 12
Nice to have 22

credits
Win 1830
Pay 500

Cost Cards Play
Wanted 41,67
Nice to have 22,73
Together 14,71

Cost Cards If Not Play
11 Cards 45,45

When look positief at it I pay 14,71 a card and have the special card. So I did not lose a lot since normale a card cost 13,75.

When look logical at it I pay 41,67 a card that I want or 45,45 a card without the special card. Now I have another 12 ccard in my collection that I don't want and 22 i would have buy only on sales.

I don’t know if I will do this again next time.

Just my 2 cents. After having bought 750 credits today and using them all on the promo, i ended up with about 30 or so new cards and Niemira's Christmas promo card. Most of the cards I won were ones i had previously avoided purchasing due to lack of interest in the girl or the outfit so while i am not nearly as incensed as some of the other posters in this thread I did come away from this particular promo feeling less than pleased. That having been said I realized no one ***** me to play but the lack of success has soured me on any future promos that involve this type of element of chance. I am saying this not so much to ***** but so as to give active feedback as on the whole i am still pretty happy with istripper in general.

i agree but in my case . i did not win any promo cards. but i'm waiting on that next black friday sale for 2020. i'm not missing that one.

I haven't seen any logical reason for your posts, buddy.

I get it. We can all get a little pissed off and depressed at times. We can do stupid stuff like quitting jobs and breaking up with our partners or dumping friends for no apparent reason. Been there, done that 😕

You have been a helpful and generous contributor to this forum and will be missed by many if you leave now. You have FRIENDS here, buddy!

But, I don't know what's going on in your world right now and don't expect you to share anything personal.
Take a break if you must but seriously, if you need a friend to talk to in private, PM me. I promise to respect your privacy at all times 😶

What a completely shitty way for a company to treat its customers.

Satin Bloom In my opinion is incredible, and Olga Barz too

Is there a preview of that card anywhere?

Being a very particular & frugal collector. I immediately pass on most every game/event (except maybe the advent calander).
The only thing that is really worth my investment is the credit bonus!
🐱😎✌

Merci @Celine 😊 mais je suis un peu déçu, j'aurais préféré un skin 😋

Maybe I'm just getting old, but my approach has always been this:

Companies will do whatever they want. I don't expect them to cater to me. What I expect is a relationship where I try to get what I want from them at the lowest cost I can, and they try to get as much money as they can from me. Essentially, it's a fist fight, with each of us trying to get the most we can from the other.

I'm curious. From this perspective, should one have gratitude or contempt for a sparring partner who has not yet attempted to gouge out your eyes?

SMH. Seriously disappointed.

As a collector who has literally spent THOUSANDS of dollars with iStripper, this just doesn't sit right.

At very least, make this card available for a limited time purchase, not just for a win. Someone like me who has ALL the cards might have to spend HUNDREDS to get just one card. That feels wrong. So wrong.

Please, rethink the approach guys.

I've never posted before. May never again, but I find this discussion fascinating, because I seem to have a totally different mindset from almost everyone who has expressed an opinion.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but my approach has always been this:

Companies will do whatever they want. I don't expect them to cater to me. What I expect is a relationship where I try to get what I want from them at the lowest cost I can, and they try to get as much money as they can from me. Essentially, it's a fist fight, with each of us trying to get the most we can from the other. I realize there's a growing sense in society that companies should cater, but I don't think I'll ever quite understand that. What you want from them isn't always what's best for their business, and doesn't always reflect the values they do or don't have.

Honestly, I'm fine with that. I tend to think that the fist-fight motif fits a lot of situations in life. I understand the rules, and so do they. So when I see a promotion that doesn't appear to add value to me, I ignore it. When I see a good deal, I take advantage of it. The rest of the time, I'll buy things for a fair price if I feel like it.

I've enjoyed some of the promotions, and completely ignored others. I'm not a collector, so I don't care about exclusive cards and won't bother dumping a ton of credits to get them. But of course, I don't see the point in that. He who dies with the most toys still dies. But I get that others don't share that view.

Having said all that, I think a lot of commenters may be overestimating how many regular customers actually post/vote/engage beyond buying cards. I suspect there's a silent majority in the customer base, and I don't believe any poll taken or any roundup of the comments written would accurately represent that base. I believe this because I'm triple diamond, have been for years, but I almost never engage beyond buying cards here and there.

Remember folks, this is porn. The silent addiction (at least in some countries).

And finally, yes, this promotion is flawed if you have a lot of cards already, or if you're solely after the exclusive card. So I passed. But I can also see how it might benefit somebody who doesn't have many cards yet, and might not be after the exclusive card at all. And if you enjoy games of chance, so much the better.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. I'll go back to being quiet now.

Just my 2 cents. After having bought 750 credits today and using them all on the promo, i ended up with about 30 or so new cards and Niemira's Christmas promo card. Most of the cards I won were ones i had previously avoided purchasing due to lack of interest in the girl or the outfit so while i am not nearly as incensed as some of the other posters in this thread I did come away from this particular promo feeling less than pleased. That having been said I realized no one ***** me to play but the lack of success has soured me on any future promos that involve this type of element of chance. I am saying this not so much to ***** but so as to give active feedback as on the whole i am still pretty happy with istripper in general.

Considering those results I would have ended with 8 free cards + 1 Event Card for a cost of 350/9 = 38.88 credits per card and I'm ending with 1 Special Event card and 484 credits over 834.

Most of the promotions in the past gave a nice discount traded against getting cards you might not want to buy at regular price.
The particular issue with the spring break game is that Totem does not publish the odds. I have the same personal experience as @elfine. Average cost per card (normal & exclusive) was approximately 40-50 credits which is 3-4 times more expensive than buying cards selected by myself directly in the store (given my member level).

I like iStripper, the support staff, and the community, but not the spring break game. I do not like the concept of exclusive cards either. I can somehow accept exclusive cards as bonus for high volume purchases (including less attractice cards), but if the price goes above regular price I feel treated badly.

(On a side note: I was member of the month in January. There was no treat at all connected with.)

wow some nice 3,8 stars cards I got there for 100 credits. What a terrible ripoff

Expecting that if you were lvl 1, you would not have the same luck as me.
You can check my results here : http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41517/5?post=612019

It's random luck, and the ratio win/lose isn't bad at all but the reward in my case would have not been 25 credits per card won.

I'm making this separate post to not mess with my answer to @kaiji.

My result from this game in graphics and some explanations.

I started playing with 84 credits and I had to buy 250 then 500 credits to keep playing and get the special card.
I did not plan to buy that much and in fact I could have bought less, but ...

The average of the game win/loose isn't really bad 54% win against 46% lost for a total of 109 times played.
It took me 102 games to get the "Special Card" and the effective cost for it is 350 credits.
In total I spent 1090 credits and earned back 740.

Over these 109 games I won:

• Bonus 10 - 54 times
• Bonus 50 - 4 times
• Bonus 100 - 0 times
• Free Card - potentially 8 times but I've never had one since the only cards I do not have are the 6/7 new cards released this week and it looks like we can not win them in this game
• Event Card - 1 time

On the graphic 2 (top right) the "Saw" results are the number of times I saw that bonus during my 109 games (win or lost) and the "Won" are the effective times I won the bonus.

Considering those results I would have ended with 8 free cards + 1 Event Card for a cost of 350/9 = 38.88 credits per card and I'm ending with 1 Special Event card and 484 credits over 834.

I wouldn't answer every question here but let me just give you some thoughts about this promotion and hopefully, reassure the most angry of you.
We have always wanted to do "exclusive / rare" shows. They do exist now and we believe they are a real added value to our content. No, these games are not illegal. We are a serious company and we have inquired with our lawyers. Remember that our games of chance are not here to "squeeze" you like I read on this thread but to make discounts and promotions more playful. I understand that some of you don't like games of chance, In this case, I just ask you to be respectful for those who like them and wait for the next promotion. Please keep in mind that we have many members who are very happy to benefit from these promotions cause they don't have the permanent discount you have.
Moreover, even if "special event cards" appear in games of chance, you can also get them on promos that don't depend on chance, like black Friday, pre orders etc.

Thank you and have a great week-end guys.

Written like a true ‘Snake-oil Salesman’ would write.

@orclover

dance lessons for the girls...
???

Sorry, you crack me up every once in a while and I actually enjoy that from time to time. The 'models' are in & out of there. They're in the studio for like two days. How could anyone possibly have time to give sufficient dance lessons ?

Rhetorical question, by the way.

Dance lessons would be investment of time to improve the product. Totem has two choices:
1. Make more money with the current product...creative deals using gambling, which increases software partcipation.
2. Improve the product so more people spend full price for the cards.

Other entertainment industries tend to try to improve the quality and talent involved in the product, not use gambling games...oh, well...either totem will make a ton of money, and their decision was justified, or they will lose money and the exclusive promotions will stop. Win/Win

WHY Can't i buy the latest Ginebra card posted today. What the hell is going on
what the hell is that event calendar thingy
what is it
why publish card on given date
Never heard of that callendar shushhh