Thanks towards orclover and CwHart and TSYMajic for expressing similar frustration to my own.

I don't want chance to be involved in anything I desire to purchase from iStripper. The promotions and games are not fun for me. I've been a customer for a long time and know what kind of cards that I like. Flash Flood is the kind of card that inspires me to add credits to my account and return to the Girls Store to check the new cards.

I feel like I have been swindled out of $30 trying to get Flash Flood. And now the card will taunt me every time I come to check on the new Cards. I will be reminded of wanting the card, of feeling that I have been swindled out of money to not get it, and then a moderator telling me, to paraphrase, "suck it up."

This is not good. At least, not for me.

I take back what i said it took forever but i have the card i walk away for a few hours and just try it and to my suprise on the second draw won the card it way to time consuming but i did get the card i wish everbody the best of luck and lots of patience.

Remember everyone that this special card will be available in some future promotions as well. Kaiju said as much in his message on another thread.

I myself was able to win Niemira's 2017 advent calendar card more than a year after its release. If you don't want to do the scratch cards to try and win this Ginebra's special event card, you will get other chances to obtain it later on.

needed 3 special event cards and got all 3 im happy

Spent $25 myself with no Flash Flood and a lot of cards I immediately deactivated. At least provide a % chance to actually get Flash Flood - even casinos do that much. If I play roulette, I know my odds are a little less than 1 in 36 of hitting a number, for example. I would not have played this game if I knew the odds were so low and I will not be playing any more events with iStripper until this is addressed. I'm a double diamond member and have spent a lot with iStripper, but this type of event makes me want to stop spending entirely.

This event is a waste people keep saying to keep trying i have tried for ywo says now everytime i get the event card i get two s and alwat everytime get an x for the rest the way i look at this is like a casino rigging tg=he game so the dealer always win shame on totem for this!

Actually, you can preview this card. Just search for Ginebra in the Girls Store and you'll find it. It looks great, which is probably why Totem decided to use it as an exclusive card.

Maybe it's the software (I have the most current version). I can see the card in the store, but I can not preview it like all the rest.

It is sad reading all these comments fom no doubt loyal customers who now are feeling squeezed and taken advantage of. I'm not sure what is driving this game focus at Totem- I should assume they think this will lead to more profit. But not because they offered great products, Rather, they have a group of customers that is prime for being taken advantage of, who will gamble their credits on Totem games, the same way a casino gambler will lose everything in the pursuit of everything playing the slots. I wish we could have an "intervention", that no one would play these games anymore and if no one played they would go away. That is what I am doing. Walk while you still have some credits in your account!
Actually, the problem is not really the games themselves. If I was a new customer and the company was offering me the opportunity to acquire new cards at a lower price, I'm quite sure I would be happy about that. You're new (not you specifically of course), you don't know the models, what you're looking for exactly, you're less selective. Then, the games are a great idea to start building your collection.

What is upsetting many of us right now, is that we are trying to ***** us, long-time customers, to participate in a game in which we have nothing to gain from, by making exclusive a card that should have been available for purchase. That's where the lack of respect lies. Given the current backlash, I hope Totem will reconsider its decision.

Careful dont use the word *****, or else Emu will come in and correct you based an a technicality XD

It is sad reading all these comments fom no doubt loyal customers who now are feeling squeezed and taken advantage of. I'm not sure what is driving this game focus at Totem- I should assume they think this will lead to more profit. But not because they offered great products, Rather, they have a group of customers that is prime for being taken advantage of, who will gamble their credits on Totem games, the same way a casino gambler will lose everything in the pursuit of everything playing the slots. I wish we could have an "intervention", that no one would play these games anymore and if no one played they would go away. That is what I am doing. Walk while you still have some credits in your account!

Actually, the problem is not really the games themselves. If I was a new customer and the company was offering me the opportunity to acquire new cards at a lower price, I'm quite sure I would be happy about that. You're new (not you specifically of course), you don't know the models, what you're looking for exactly, you're less selective. Then, the games are a great idea to start building your collection.

What is upsetting many of us right now, is that we are trying to ***** us, long-time customers, to participate in a game in which we have nothing to gain from, by making exclusive a card that should have been available for purchase. That's where the lack of respect lies. Given the current backlash, I hope Totem will reconsider its decision.

oh! - Thanks for the explanation. Not Totem's fault, so no - I won't submit a ticket.
Cheers

It is sad reading all these comments fom no doubt loyal customers who now are feeling squeezed and taken advantage of. I'm not sure what is driving this game focus at Totem- I should assume they think this will lead to more profit. But not because they offered great products, Rather, they have a group of customers that is prime for being taken advantage of, who will gamble their credits on Totem games, the same way a casino gambler will lose everything in the pursuit of everything playing the slots. I wish we could have an "intervention", that no one would play these games anymore and if no one played they would go away. That is what I am doing. Walk while you still have some credits in your account!

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.
It might also be good to remember that companies that actually take their clients' comments into account (instead of telling them something around the theme of "we're doing business, we don't care for your actual needs, take it or leave it") tend to do better. These days it's called "enhancing the customer experience".

The only reason why it doesn't apply here is that Totem has absolutely no competition. The company has created a business niche and they strive on it, and that's why they have the luxury of being able to totally disregard their most faithful clients.

Good for them. But let it be noted that Totem's customers aren't blind to the fact that they're treated with a certain amount of contempt because they're a captive clientele. If one day a competitor emerges on that same niche, it's safe to say that many people will leave.

They have plenty of competition, its called pornhub. Nearly all of their models are naked or having sex for free on the internet, their product happens to be EXTREMELY expensive even compared to other porn sites that cost $10-20 for all content. Istripper costs $5000 for all content. You piss off enough customers and they will go get off for free watching the same girls do the same things.

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

It might also be good to remember that companies that actually take their clients' comments into account (instead of telling them something around the theme of "we're doing business, we don't care for your actual needs, take it or leave it") tend to do better. These days it's called "enhancing the customer experience".

The only reason why it doesn't apply here is that Totem has absolutely no competition. The company has created a business niche and they strive on it, and that's why they have the luxury of being able to totally disregard their most faithful clients.

Good for them. But let it be noted that Totem's customers aren't blind to the fact that they're treated with a certain amount of contempt because they're a captive clientele. If one day a competitor emerges on that same niche, it's safe to say that many people will leave.

@cwhart - Totem have in the last few years offered 7 "regular" cards a week. That is their standard product.
In addition they have also offered a small number of "special event" cards - that is not their standard product, it is something extra and there is not reason why anyone should expect that they are available unr the same tems as the regular product.

I have, and I am sure you have also, seen several cases of manufacturers of a product make "special limited edition" versions (e.g. to celebrate some aniversary) which are little more than very ***** variations on the main product (e.g. by having the name of what is being celebrated printed on it) and making these available to only the first 100 or 1000 customers or via what amounts to a lottery. Totem's special event cards are an exact analogue of that - albeit the differences between the "regular" and "special edition" versions are very small.

Now, like you, I would prefer it is Totem did not make these exclusive. It undoubtedly annoys some customers, but it is Totem's choice and it we are not ***** to participate. If Totem are getting a bigger income by offereing these cards then I am sure they will continue to do so, and if they are loosing income then they will stop.

I am more pissed off that totem is "investing" in gambling games and expensive UI, along with VR on steam, and the waste that was idancer instead of improving this flagship product. If they are making a ***** from the promotions we aren't seeing it in istripper. ANd that pisses me off. We know the product hasn't improved in any way in 3 years, in fact they closed a studio, introduced flawed cards with poor color correction and AA, and limited most of their talent to one country. Their duo reintroduction was a flop, was poor quality, and more expensive..they haven't introduced new props, improved quality, or even improved the talent. There are a lot of reasons why but I would appreciate one investment into istripper for every time they make a new gambling game or attempt a new VR game on steam.

wow some nice 3,8 stars cards I got there for 100 credits. What a terrible ripoff
Make judgments based on other people's ratings, do we ? Well, there's a problem with that. Most cards with low ratings have those low ratings for reasons totally unrelated to the girl, her outfit and/or her performance. Way too many people want to give ratings of one or even zero if they have an issue trying to download a card. That has absolutely nothing to do with the show they are supposed to be rating. I know it's like that. All you have to do is read the comments on some cards to verify it for yourself because some of those members voice that in the comments. They also like to do that when a card is tied to a promo or something.

Well here is a more accurate conclusion: 100 credits spent on 4 total wins.
1x 10 credits reward
3x cards I wouldn't even consider buying. Two of them being standard cards. iStripper promotes gambling heavily lately and as a customer I have never benefited in the slightest

Ok here I go again, (and I stopped posting comments years ago, because at the time it seemed Totem never paid attention to them. I could be wrong, but it still seems that way to me). I read somewhere in here, a requote about my statement in reference to unhappy customers Totem does not see. It was totally taken the wrong way. I realize Totem does not care about losing 1% of their overall customer base. They have new customers joining everyday, so the loss of a few paying customers in the grand view is null. (it is essentially porn after all). What I meant was that the culture that would come from continued blatant disregard for the part of the community here, (namely collectors like myself), in my view is not a good way to go. They may not see it that way at all. Hell, we have already given our money, they really don't need us anymore. My point was eventually it will come to a head. At some point most if not all will have as bad of an experience as I and a few others have. When that happens then it may be difficult to mantain and even attract new customers. Social media is everywhere now, and even if Totem can censor your comments here and even delete them. Nothing will stop the sh@t storm on other platforms. That being said, they may not care about that either. Totem may be like other companies, in that every action is proceeded by a reponse to an action as a reaction. I am not a gambler, hell I don't ever drink, but some people do and that's fine. I just don't appreciate being ***** to endulge in something that...

1) I do not support in any form
2) I do not participate in at all myself

In order to get cards that I should be able to buy or participate in an event such as the advent calendar, in order to recieve the card I want. There are older cards that I still want, but cannot get because the model has expressed to Totem that they do not wish them to sell anymore. I get that and I can except that. But this scratch game seems unethical, (in my view). I just don't do them when they come up, my decision, to make a card exclusive to the game then skew the game in favor of loss more than wins is a punch in the nose. It doesn't ***** you, but it sure as hell ***** alot.

Bottom line, in my opinion, unhappy customers means less people purchasing and supporting, in turn means more crap like this scratch game to make up the difference. I am pretty good at seeing patterns thru data, hell I had a job where i did just that, in all this I just hope Totem can do a 180 on this type if thinking, but then again, my opinion is they don't care anyway, if is profitable do it.

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

Tobacco/cigarette companies are also buisinesses that like to make money off of their *****.

The crystal-meth dealer that lives down the street from me is also a buisiness that makes money off of her *****.

Those are just two examples of buisinesses that owe their existence to addictive products.

iStripper also is an ***** product, and Totem is is milking it's ***** of money with this type of practice.

It is a very sad world that we live in.

@cwhart - Totem have in the last few years offered 7 "regular" cards a week. That is their standard product.
In addition they have also offered a small number of "special event" cards - that is not their standard product, it is something extra and there is not reason why anyone should expect that they are available unr the same tems as the regular product.

I have, and I am sure you have also, seen several cases of manufacturers of a product make "special limited edition" versions (e.g. to celebrate some aniversary) which are little more than very ***** variations on the main product (e.g. by having the name of what is being celebrated printed on it) and making these available to only the first 100 or 1000 customers or via what amounts to a lottery. Totem's special event cards are an exact analogue of that - albeit the differences between the "regular" and "special edition" versions are very small.

Now, like you, I would prefer it is Totem did not make these exclusive. It undoubtedly annoys some customers, but it is Totem's choice and it we are not ***** to participate. If Totem are getting a bigger income by offereing these cards then I am sure they will continue to do so, and if they are loosing income then they will stop.

@Cwhart - no you can not always get what you want with just some extra effort - some special offers are limited such that only a very small number of customers can win them.

Also, your analogy does not work. Totem have not changed how we can obtain anything - they have added an extra set of cards. In you analogy all that was on the supermarket shelves is still there but somthing new in in the slot machine.

I have no clue what you said for most of the second paragraph but yes they legit changed how we can obtain these cards, like seriously you cant just BUY certain cards anymore, it went from going to do a promotion to now a game of chance. That is a drastic change, I cant even fathom how you come to these conclusions.

Finally the idea that this card is only meant for a small number of customers to own is very much anti consumer. I would try explaining as you why, but

A. It shouldnt be needed to explain
B. You would just try and find a way to defend them like you always do

@Cwhart - no you can not always get what you want with just some extra effort - some special offers are limited such that only a very small number of customers can win them.

Also, your analogy does not work. Totem have not changed how we can obtain anything - they have added an extra set of cards. In you analogy all that was on the supermarket shelves is still there but something new is in the slot machine.

@CwHart - yes the logic goes both ways, and from the evidence so far - principally that Totem repeated the Advent Calendar, made a third in many ways similar offer for Black Friday and now are using the same "bait" again - it would seem that despite the noise on this forum from what are a tiny proprtion of their customers the tactic worked (i.e. resulted in increased income) with the customer base as a whole.

I'll give them credit they sure did a good job screwing me out of 250 credits, guess lesson learned not to allow myself to get fooled again at a game of chance. Oh and BTW once again my point went over your head. But at this point I guess that is to be expected.

I'll repeat this ONE more time........

Let's not use this thread for ***** about certain cards and their availability. You can ***** about Ginebra's Flash Flood card in the TGIF thread if you want.

This thread is specifically for informing those who want to know what's coming soon. Nothing more.

Now, let's get back on the right topic, please.

Thank you


Edit:
This IS NOT the thread to be discussing this in

@CwHart - yes the logic goes both ways, and from the evidence so far - principally that Totem repeated the Advent Calendar, made a third in many ways similar offer for Black Friday and now are using the same "bait" again - it would seem that despite the noise on this forum from what are a tiny proprtion of their customers the tactic worked (i.e. resulted in increased income) with the customer base as a whole.

@CwHart -

I have seen many special offers where what is in the package is not fully known when you buy it. Trivial examples are the "free offers" that used to be common in cereal packages or more recently with various fast food offerings (or further back in time there were cigarette cards, bubblegum cards or in packets of tea ).

In any case the point I was making was independant of the form of the offer. The reason why the offers are made in the first place is to encourage customers to buy more than than they otherwise would - this is true whether you can choose freely, choose from a limited selection or get a totally random "gift". You know before you partake what the terms are and you choose whether to participate or not.

My point went over your head or you are being willfulling ignorant, in the end you still get the product you want, just with alittle extra. You as a consumer are still getting something out of it, while still purchasing a desired item even if its a brand you dont normally get, it's still the desire item you want. This case I am not getting what I want period along with what I want, rather am left with items I do not wish to have. I know the terms but if I sure as hell didn't know I was gonna dump 250 credits and still be out with products I did not want and not have the product I did. Do you under stand the nuance of what you are saying and what is going on?

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

You do know that logic goes both ways right? When a consumer is unhappy with a product or the dealings of a company that they have invested money into their products for years, that gives them the right to *****. It's no different than going to a grocery store and finding out they no longer have the product you want, accept this time they actually do have the product you want but you are expected to get it out of a slot machine with a chance of getting other products you do not want. I honestly have no clue about the goose game, but I assume with it being brought up so much it wasn't received well, but atleast I assume it didn't have an exclusive attached to you that you have to luck your way into

For me, I use google chrome on my PC and it first opens with the original landing and then quickly changes to the new one. Did the same thing with the last 'new' landing page as well. My phone uses safari. It did and does the same thing there too.

@CwHart -

I have seen many special offers where what is in the package is not fully known when you buy it. Trivial examples are the "free offers" that used to be common in cereal packages or more recently with various fast food offerings (or further back in time there were cigarette cards, bubblegum cards or in packets of tea ).

In any case the point I was making was independant of the form of the offer. The reason why the offers are made in the first place is to encourage customers to buy more than than they otherwise would - this is true whether you can choose freely, choose from a limited selection or get a totally random "gift". You know before you partake what the terms are and you choose whether to participate or not.

Just remember that iStripper is a business thing, and Totem wants to make money with it. So, this kind of game is one idea to let the business goes on and make money, as with the Goose Game.

I understand that people are upset about certain aspects and have a right to voice their concerns. However........
Please settle down a bit and try to be more respectful toward each other.

Also, please respect this comment and do not give any rude rebuttal about who said what, and to whom

Thank you

@mapps

***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair
Nobody is ***** anybody to do anything. You are given a choice to either accept the terms of the offer or to ignore it. This may mean that you choose not to attempt to get a card that under other circumstances you would buy, but it is it entirely your choice. It may be a hard choice to make, but that will be a major reason why there it is a special offer in the first place. Many such offers by any comercial concern are attempts to tempt you into buying things that you would otherwise not buy, Totem are no different from your local supermarket or bookstore in this respect.

Sorry but I have to shut this down cause like the casino comparison this is just a wrong comparison. Ya see the advent calander worked this way, but this current deal does not. The special offer at supermarkets and bookstores isnt a gamble, it's buy this that you want and get this that you may not want but can have for free. It's giving you more in exchange for the same price and you still get what you want in the process. This is the opposite, very much so.

Here is the deal, I understand for people who do not have alot of cards that this is a good deal, I honestly get that. What I do not get is how that is an excuse to attach a card that can only get through the deal on it. See I buy the cards I want as they come out. I dont collect, I dont aim for 100%, I am just like "I like this model, I want to own her whole collecting" I dumped 250 credits for 18 cards I did not want and and a ball park of over 250 in winnings rolled over. 500 credits, that is by all acounts 50 bucks, but I am just gonna say i spent around 25, just to try and get this one card.

One mod said akined this to a casino, don't like to stakes dont play the game. But that is such a terrible analogy. When I joined 5 years ago I never expected the idea of exclusive cards to happen, and I sure as hell didn't expect the only way I can win one is through a game of chance, while before it was just doing a bunch of deals to guarentee you get the card. People go into casinos knowing what to expect, they become a patron because they know they expect gambling. No one became a patron of this product expecting this kind of crap. So yeah, this sort of thing for already existing cards, never had a problem. With this one exclusive, well consider me jaded even more than before.

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

A piss off attitude from a mod, nice. But I guess that is to be expected I mean we get an I dont give a damn attitude from the actual team when people are hammering away on this bs to their paying customers.

And further more when I go into a casino I know exactly what I am expecting. I did not expect us to get these bullshit exclusive cards and hack games to try and win them when I first started invesing money into Virtual Girl (now istripper) 5 years ago. So get the hell out of here with that crap

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

Please do not be disrespectful to customers. This is not a casino. It is istripper. Although it appears that even moderators are getting *****. The customer you chastized spent 300 credits to get cards they do not want and they did not get the special event card. And remember they still have 1000s of card available to them because they are single diamond. A customer should get at least 15 cards they want AND the special event card for 30 dollars. That is $2 a card. Totem could have offered wishlist cards, let people choose their free cards, instead they created a game that gives undesired cards, for a bloated price, and no guarentee of the special card. And they do not reveal the odds and the rules are unclear. There is plenty of reason to be critical of this promotion, even for new users.

Firefox on smartphone is the old landing page too.

Vicky Love, not bad too 😘

This is the new landing page for mobile devices. I've the same page as always on Win10 and Firefox too.

@gatroll : this is the rules to have this event card. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If you don't want to loose money, don't go to the casino, it's simple.

I absolutely do not think it's a good thing to make special event cards only to be obtained by a chance game. So far special event cards could be obtained by preorder like with the advent calendar or by partaking in the black friday deals. I am also fine with making them now part of such a game of chance but to do it with a brand new special card is really shitty to the most loyal customers who have been around for 10 years and more and bought all that Totem released so far.

@Team: you should really think hard about this next week.

@chocopop : quitte le programme et relance-le. Vérifie également que ton antivirus ne bloque pas iStripper. Avec la souris, il faut bien balayer toute la surface du cercle pour bien faire apparaître l'image en-dessous.

Let's not use this thread for ***** about certain cards and their availability. You can ***** about Ginebra's Flash Flood card in the TGIF thread if you want.

This thread is specifically for informing those who want to know what's coming soon. Nothing more.

Now, let's get back on the right topic, please.

Thank you

J'ai acheté 5 cartes, je ne peux pas les gratter!!!!

Just spent 30 dollars trying to get Flash Flood. Now I have a bunch of cards I don't want and no Flash Flood. >:(

Damn after everything that was said here @Fiddlestick had the best post (IMHO)

Thank you i needed to read that.

Is there a preview of that card anywhere?

https://www.istripper.com/model/show/f0440

@mapps

***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair

Nobody is ***** anybody to do anything. You are given a choice to either accept the terms of the offer or to ignore it. This may mean that you choose not to attempt to get a card that under other circumstances you would buy, but it is it entirely your choice. It may be a hard choice to make, but that will be a major reason why there it is a special offer in the first place. Many such offers by any comercial concern are attempts to tempt you into buying things that you would otherwise not buy, Totem are no different from your local supermarket or bookstore in this respect.

Thanks every forum I looked in seem like the wrong one. Not gonna play a game winning cards i don't want in th hope of getting one i do want. I ahve 2225 cards. I purchase every card I want when it comes out. I check the site every day to see what's new. ***** people to buy cards they won't even download to get a single card seems extremely unfair. If I could buy the card I would have it already and iStripper would have my money already. But this way I don't get the card and you don't get my money.

On firefox I have the same landing page as always.

And another new landing page was added to iStripper.com

wow some nice 3,8 stars cards I got there for 100 credits. What a terrible ripoff

Make judgments based on other people's ratings, do we ? Well, there's a problem with that. Most cards with low ratings have those low ratings for reasons totally unrelated to the girl, her outfit and/or her performance. Way too many people want to give ratings of one or even zero if they have an issue trying to download a card. That has absolutely nothing to do with the show they are supposed to be rating. I know it's like that. All you have to do is read the comments on some cards to verify it for yourself because some of those members voice that in the comments. They also like to do that when a card is tied to a promo or something.

I've missed out on the last 3 Special Event/Exclusive cards. I don't care for the extra costs associated with them combined with the acquisition of many cards that just don't interest me. I ***** most of the games of chance because they just chew up credits that I could've applied directly to the purchase of specific wishlist cards. Although some of the games seem designed towards some type of fun addiction factor, I've never come out ahead or done well at any of them. So I don't even try anymore.

I love the straight across discounts, as do most customers & professional shopaholics. That's when I stock up on credits & spend until I get everything I want. I really like having these girls stripping on my desktop.

Team TOTEM, please consider occasionally adding more weekend events where 15%-25% off discounts can be applied to any cards that the customer wants. Putting the poor quality 480p Virtuagirl Classic cards on sale for 50% off would be attractive to those that normally avoid the older cards. Even for a limited time, maybe once or twice a year, making all Special Event/Exclusive cards available for purchase at a premium would probably make a lot of disgruntled customers happy once again.

This is clearly the largest amount of complaints that I've personally ever seen in the forum & just wanted to offer a few constructive suggestions. Thank you for the development of this amazing product.