I think I would leave that more up to the girls. Whats more important is that's difference in balance cloths on/tease/nude from card to card and girl to girl. Thanks!

A difficult pole to vote on.

Personlly, I buy VGHD because the girls are clothed. For me, the naked clips are an optional bonus. I like to see the girl naked eventually because I want to see what she is like under the costume. But the truth is, I would not ***** too much much if a girl didn't show her pussy at all.

My favoutite clips are where a fully clothed girl is flashing her panties, where a girl is frolicking around in panties (topless or otherwise), or where the girl is flashing her pussy from her panties These are the core clips for me, the ones I am really paying for. The rest are just a bonus.

There are three clips that annoy me the most.
1) Clips where a girl is fully clothed and doesn't do anything interesting.
2) Girl starts clip fully clothed only to take the clothing off immediately
3) The girl starts off naked.

When I watch VGHD, I usually set it to topless and light sexy, because I am more interested in the clothed clips.

For me there should be a certain number of clips where the girl is fully clothed. In the end, I buy the cards principally for the costume. So I want to see it. However, the girl should still do tease actions like flash her panties, bra, etc, without showing a nipple or pussy. On the other hand, I don't want to go back to the days of the earlier cards where a girl could have several fully clothed clips where she just stands or sits about without even flashing anything. That is just frustrating.

For me, there should be at least one clip of each type for the following:
1) At least one clip of each type where the girl is fully clothed. But this should still include teasing including upskirts and panty flash. In effect there is no stripping.
2) At least one clip of each type where the girl transitions from fully clothed to partly clothed or topless.
3) At least one clip from each type where the girl transitions from partly or fully clothed to naked. This could also include things like upskirts without panty.
4) A couple of 'holistic' clips where the girl starts of fully clothed and strips to naked.
5) A couple of clips where the girl starts our naked or almost naked.

This may seem a bit formulaic, but I have no problem with that. Nearly all art produced for commercial consumption is formulaic. The artistic talent in VGHD should be able to make each feel fresh, new and unique. Also, the formula above is based on the girl wearing outer wear. It may have to be altered slightly where the model starts in a bikini or lingerie.

Anyway, that is my view. Many will disagree. But I think it will give something for everyone.

It's going to be one of those divisive issues, if you include more shoes or clothes you'll have those who want less of each up in arms... the girls know what they feel comfortable stripping out of, it's a good reason to keep it as it is. However, the team have never been afraid to try something new, I trust them to make the right decision...

Oh for cryin' out loud! This whole thread is crazy. Paper trails? Anonymity? How long have you been using the Internet and buying things on it?

I worked in IT Security for 20 years...yes...for "The Government". If you think you are anonymous on the Internet, you are seriously deluding yourself. A 13-year old can download free programs from the Internet that could hack your computer, do information searches about you on the Internet, and write a novel about your life history.

Money Laundering a world-wide issue today. "Anonymous" money transfers...yes, even with debit cards...are a major source of it, just like any OTHER "anonymous" money transaction from a phony bank account, whatever. The laws have changed. You are gonna have to get over it.

Blaming Totem for any of it is ludicrous. They didn't change the laws.

What I'm REALLY seeing here are people who want to pay for and download Adult Content Material from the Internet, but they don't want anybody (or somebody specific...wife, fiance', girlfriend, whatever) to KNOW they are doing it. That's a personal problem, not a Totem problem.

Besides, even if you manage to hide it from a "significant other", that in NO WAY means that OTHER people, organizations, institutions, or (insert your most loved Conspiracy Theory here) wouldn't be able to "know" about it if they really wanted to.

You gonna buy "porn" on the Internet? I'll find a 13-year old with a computer who can tell me when, where, and how much you paid for it.

The new laws weren't enacted to prevent you from hiding your "porn" purchases from your wife or employer. There's a hell of a lot more important reason they were enacted. Really now..."The Government" could care LESS if you are a "porn dog" or not. If they REALLY were trying to CATCH you doing that, they'd have to incarcerate over 50% of the population already. Are you in jail yet?

Paper Trails? You leave one every time you do ANYTHING on the Internet. Just the fact that you GO to an adult site leaves a "paper trail". You aren't hiding from ANYBODY who would really want to know. Ask how easy it is for a divorce lawyer to "find out" your Internet habits if they want to when they are representing your wife in a divorce case. There are private investigators who make a GREAT living providing that info to them.

It wouldn't matter if you paid for your VG model cards with sticks and stones using NO money transactions. It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out from your Internet "paper trail" when you downloaded them to YOUR computer who "bought" them.

Welcome to the real world.

I think the fact that many models recently are only wearing lingerie adds to the feeling of "overstripping". If there's only so much she can take off before she's naked, ou cna't help it.

I.e, my suggestion would be to get more layers of costumes. Lingerie shows are O.K, but they shouldn't form 50% of the video base like now.

Definitely getting naked too quick. Keep the outfits and the heels on, with the outfit off and the heels still on by the end of the show.

I ***** naked feet. ***** ***** *****. I want high heels 100% of the time, especially pumps. If I know a card has naked feet, I will not buy it. No exceptions. Also, I dislike the constant bait and switch with cards that don't have naked feet in the description yet over 95% of the card has naked feet. It's a waste of my credits. Same for cards that have 'naked feet' that actually keep the heels on. The descriptions need to be more accurate. If it weren't for some comments on the cards that say the heels stay on, I wouldn't get the card because it says naked feet. If the descriptions were accurate and there were 100% heel cards, I would spend more credits.

More sensual clips would be better. With too much nudity, it feels like deskbabe without the masterbation. Some clips should be nude while majority should be teasing, taking things off little at a time. Some dancing wouldn't ***** either.

I think most clips should end with nudity. Having said that, I'm not a fan of cards that have too many clips where the girl starts naked. A few sure, but the whole point of these (hopefully) sexy outfits is... anticipation. This is also true for me for deskbabes cards. I can barely tell Tracy Smile's deskbabes cards apart because she spends so little time "in costume."

okay its understood that the pre paid cards are NOT accepted internationally.. However whats not being told is that companys such as EPCH have in just the past 3 weeks or so changed their location from california to outside of the U.S. And i have invested lots of money in this software with the understanding my visa would continue to be a valid payment option. Frankley I'm pissed off at Totems lack of action with the situation they certainly knew prior to slapping us in the face.. and i feel that the fact that no post or email was given to its loyal fans is a slap in the face to us it affects. and all of Totems customers should take notice.of Totems lack action and consideration. I for one am done with anything Totem until I see action and since apology!!!

I agree with the others saying let the girl do her thing. The only thing Totem should change up is the outfits, it's getting really repetitive seeing the same old nurse outfits, black leather outfits, ***** outfits, etc. Maybe thats why people just want to see the girl naked fast, the outfit doesn't appeal anymore. Take some fashion tips from Lady Gaga, I don't care for her music but you gotta admit, she is always turning heads with her costumes. It doesn't matter if the model looks ridiculous, she's gonna take it all off anyway. Makeup and hairstyle should also have more variety. I would like to see a show where I can't even recognize the girl on the card.

I can't comment on what's happening with US payments. But, if TV and movies are to be believed, the NSA, FBI, ATF, CIA and any number of 3 letter organisations are ridiculously paranoid about national security. The mucho- head-in group were helped by the CIA. Now they are enemies. Loyalties change...

I'm no patriot by any sense but if you look at the UK's history with the IRA,( yet another 3 letter group) you'll start to get an idea of what terrorism is all about :(

Recently in Spain, we had to declare to our banks where our income/deposits came from or lose the account. This was an anti-money laundering/anti-terrorism financing tactic. This doesn't affect me. I'm too damned poor! ;)

I will state this tho... I just used Paypal and it clearly states where you are spending your money. It mentions Epoch (which is fine) but also sends an email to say what you bought and from where. So much for being anonymous! This is no problem for me but I can imagine other members getting in the deep stuff :(

Seems like things have actually gotten a little more naked and that's about the right balance now. I'd still love to see a little more teasing, upskirts and mixing it up. I'd love to see more clothing with no panties.

I really dont care about the naked feet by themselves, my taskbar looks clean enough so it doesnt bother me if they stand right on it barefoot, but i am really not sure when buying a card with both stockings and naked feet. I don't like it when the stockings are removed, especially in every clip (hello, e0193, so much disappointment), it usually looks not very attractive and kinda ruins the lingerie image of the show.

btw, yes, i forgot upskirt .. more upskirt please:)

What i'd like to see:

• At least one standing clip "everything on -> everything off". Most cards seem to have it already, keep it.
• Shorter (and/or more diverse) nude-at-start clips. E0067_64302 is a perfect example (for those missing it - Isizzu runs from the side, seems shocked you are watching, hides back, peeks, accepts you watch anyway, gorgeously comes back and dresses up).
• More actual teasing. Some girls seem to not know what an upskirt is, why they are wearing a skirt then?
• There should be no fixed order of removing clothes in each and every clip. Watching a girl making the same top-bottom-bra-pants routine in every clip of every card is, well, repetitive. As an example, e0228 offers a solid variety of starting conditions and routine.

And for the eternal heels holywar, maybe add some clip info available before purchase, like:
Clips total: 16, of which 8 heels, 5 stockings and 3 barefeet.
Also having a list of clips with even current tag system on them pre-purchase will help a lot

I have a sugestion if the ladies that have there up in high fashion styles on there last clip have them to let there haid al the way down

As bare feet clips go, I really don't care. I'm not a foot fetishist but neither do I dislike feet :/

For me, whatever else going on in a clip is more important.

As a huge fan of Fullscreen mode, I can place any clip I want in almost any situation. Barefoot on a beach? High heels in a club? Easily done :)

Rex recently stated that with the new V4 software, the Team are going to make more Fullscreen scenes more easily accessible to all. This was great news!

If you haven't yet checked out some of the wonderful scenes available, YOU are missing out on something!

PS: I hope I didn't just put my foot in it...

Lol @zzmaskers. I still cringe when she is sitting on the back of a whale with stillettos. ;-0

Please keep the balance. Few clips with clothes on, few clips with topless and few clips total naked. Thanks.

I doubt its the government. I think its more about banks limiting liabilities. Can't comment on the prepaid front as I don't use them.

My 2 centimos...

This thread shows up all the challenges that Totem have to try to balance. Some want quick strips, others want long, slow strips. Some want more clothing, others want less. Totem are never going to please everybody with every card. That's a given, unfortunately.

I could add my own personal preferences here but they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of this issue as surely there would be other members who would want something different. And that's ok!

So... How to strike an even balance with each card? May not be possible for every card but as others have suggested, maybe with each group of 5 or 6 of a girl's cards, the Team plan ahead more carefully to give something for everyone over the 6 cards, depending on the outfits they plan to use.

I just re-read what I typed and in general, I think Totem already try to do that. Doh!

Then, what would happen if Totem worked out a balanced formula for each girl to perform in various outfits and that would become the norm for all the girls? I predict yet another set pattern slipping in and the cards will become even more predictable...

I have concluded that there is NO win-win for anybody here in the long term. There are way too many variables to please everybody, all the time. I suggest we let Totem AND the girls decide what they want to do. Sometimes we'll get something extraordinary that makes the whole thing worthwhile :D

End of my 2 centimos worth ;)

Ps: I voted in the middle. Most of the time, I'm happy with what I get :D

Example of one of my favorite cards ever...Chelsea French-Young Countess-Card a0719...this card has everthing for me...sey looks...teasing...DANCING...sexiest shoes I've seen on VGHD. I think this card will give you an idea of what a lot of guys are talking about when they say they want a balance of teasing and nudity. My humble opinion is that it is damn near the perfect card.

@Jununger and EverthangForever: For me bikinibeach cards with high heels are very sexy (for instance Nikky Case in Blue Lagoon and Lucie T in Copacabana). I like the cartoons of Vargas (bikini plus high heels). So many heads, so many opinions. But is the model who makes the flavour.

Naked feet just doesn't do it for me personally but I know a lot of ppl like them...I usually just skip the clips that feature them.

Yes keep it the same. It does not effect all the girls. Every girl is different. Some like to tease and take their time while others are just so horny they can't wait to take their clothes off. :) As they say, different strokes for different folks. That's what keeps Virtualgirl really interesting. If all the girls did the same thing all the time it would become systematic and quite boring. So it's really up to the girl at how fast or slow she wants to strip.

Absolutely @jununger, that was another point I was going to make..beach fullscenes with so many high heel clips just look plain ridiculous.. lol. Sometimes I think we're locked in the 1950s ~ hide it in the stripclub only ~ mind state here..very sad.

With risk of sounding like a politician... it depends on the outfit and the "theme" of the card. Some cards... bring it on! Other cards... not a chance!

A bikini beach card... all nude feet or just a pair of "slippers" in some of the clips.

A ballroom dance card... no nude feet! But a nice pair of shoes to dance in.

I see what you are looking for here Rex but I'm sorry. The problem is not a to slow or to quick striptease in it self but the basic quality of the over all card depending on the girl. For some girls it seams like forever before anything happen... even if they get naked in a split second! Other girls can keep all their cloths on and maybe only flash a boob... still they manage to blow my mind with their performance.

So the answer is... some girls take to long time... and some move to fast... even if they all in minutes spend exactly the same amount of time getting naked. Does this make any sence? Sometimes it feels like time stand still... and sometimes time fly by! =)

Ordering the girls to take X amount of time to get naked in my mind may become a creative nightmare for the models. I say... go in the other direction... encourage the girls to be more creative and give them outfits that are more than just a top and a bottom. Then let the creativity flow!

I know you are on a tight schedule to shoot X number of scenes a day... maybe this also need to be considered and give the girls more time per card? Then you will have more material to choose from when you put the contend of the card together.

I would very much like that the whole striptease was filmed in a continuous and progressive scene, then maybe divided into clips, so you can have a part of striptease (for example, clips in this sequence: before the shirt / sweater, then her skirt / pants, then shoes, stockings, bra and finally panties), or a sequence of whole striptease from beginning to end without pauses.
So, it would be great that the button "Striptease" (the one that is activated with the right mouse button), matches the entire logical sequence of clips. Otherwise, you can always play the single clip.

Imho, its not as simple as Yes or No to bare feet. It depends on the model and whether her feet are smooth well formed and feminine enough. Its a health indicator in the sexiness scale. Dancing on the ball of the foot with no counterweight indicates models' ability in grace, co-ordination & balance. Selectors may need to take greater care to keep this in mind when contracts are signed. Overly large big toe, boniness, veiny, blotchy or Hammertoes etc. may lose both types of customers. Citing how many clips are bare feet, pantyhose or anal at the point of sale would assist my purchase decisions, although in the latter case just knowing there is one anal clip is enough to put me off buying an entire card. In webchat sites shoes staying on are generally purchase-only request (fetish) options, so if Totem go for all-shoe cards, yes they would lose me as a repeat buyer. I need to anticipate a "total strip" here where the model shows her physical prowess, not a fashion show..

I don't care to have either my bank, or my credit card providers, or my government perusing my financial transactions, with the idea that I'm doing something that is worthy of being examined for potential wrongdoing.

As such, and unless Totem can come up with a viable solution using pre-paid debit cards with a biller here in the United States, my credit purchases have come to an end.
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Thanks to all for your responses.

More clips started fully clothed, in underwear or half clothed okay, but the teasing should not take 2,5 minutes of a 3 minutes clip, but more like 1 minute out of 3. I don't have the patience for waiting too long since I'm not capable to enhance the clip (should be made possible by the software!!!). Not too many models have the personality of Danielle Maye or Nikky Case to be watch no-nude and be still interesting.
Also it is about the dancing capability of a model to be interesting in no-nude standing clips. Let them dance like they would do in a disco/club and with a certain speed!!! Use the natural capabilities of a model and don't hang them up to a certain idea of what should be.

I am a fan of the girls firstmost (so Lovely), but sometimes there are cards that they seem to jump out of their clothes very quickly. There have been quite a few new cards that only have no nudity on the demos(This weeks Belle Claire), it might be nice to have a solid clothed tease clip more frequently, as some have stated they like to have just the non nudity clips running at times. Otherwise that can be a real dry well.

There are so many variables going on with the setup too, Are people watching full shows vs a few clips ... progressive hotness, does that matter? All of it does!

Just scrounging around through some of the model shows, and I it seems like most of Sapphira's cards strike a nice balance in terms clip types.

As far as DB is concerned, Anyone else miss the standing clips? Getting 3 taskbar shows in a card can feel a bit stale at times.

For my money it's all over a bit too quickly lately. the models seem to apear on screen and then become naked in a heartbeat. Like some I prefered it when there was an eliment of tease to it. I kind of thought that was the point of DB, there I would expect more explicit behaviour and VG to be more slow and seductive.

The shows like Belle Claire did recently (0228) is about right, for me anyway, where the model starts with an outfit, strips to underwear before getting fully naked.

Slow and steady wins the race. :)
(In my humble view anyway)

At least I will save some money for the few next weeks.

I chose "I don't buy cards featuring naked feet", because i consider bare feet in the clips to be over-emphasized and often completely misplaced. Basically, it's a major turn off for me. This is one of the issues that caused me to stop buying cards completely for many years. It's also not a new issue by any means. I posted about it over 5 years ago here:

http://www.virtuagirl.eu/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=5464&gotolastpage=1#post241847

At the time, it was pretty apparent that VGirls had made a deliberate decision to strip all overt sexuality from the product and one thing they choose to replace it with was a focus on bare feet. That pleased a certain segment of the user base and attracted more foot fans to the shows so it pretty quickly snowballed, but it turned off people like me.

That being said, I have bought a number of shows again in the last month and been quite pleased with some of those shows/performers. The higher resolution really enhances the experience and it seems Vgirls has returned to a nice mix of highly erotic models/shows and softer performers. I like the balance they have now, but personally I just try to avoid the "naked feet" cards.

For this weekend I have Belle Claire sexy upskiet. Enjoy and have a good weekend.

yes, I can be more specific ..

Starting from Olga Barz #655 (perfect example ot teasing, who still shows pussy) to #1554 (Anna Tatu) who is another perfect example of clothed teasing, you used to have the ideal balance of that. Before it was good too.

You still have some shows now like #0053 Aurely Rebel, who is not ovwr-naked, but its an exception.

Yes I understand that most ppl wants naked body. But I suggest the same thing as I did for feet. 1 card focused on naked, 1 card focused on clothed and other cards featuring all kins of tease. Some quick pussy and some clothed tease and so on.

For some users VG is not a porn site. We can see pussy of those girls everywhere. But we want some company of those girls living on our screen. Sometimes I just want a girl just sit on my taskbar pretending she wants me to jump to her and acting that she really hopes I cam do it. Melisa did that in 1 clip which was absolutely awesome. I do not mind pussy and stuff, but those must come as a reward. Let the girls do some creative stuff clothed. I even miss some old times when Suzanna used to print papers in fromt of me and girls drew pictures showing me them. You are having an awesome girls, awesome quality of the picture and stuff. But please be more creative with teases. It calls VG interactive, so let us feel girls playing with us but not with her holes. Btw DB is just about right stuff. But VG should be different.

anyway, thanks for listening us .. :)

For me I like them to take it off slow, so we can see them dance. But at the end be naked to. Let`s keep it the same.

I voted 1 clip on each card is good.

I have been saying that for a long time? but I would like to say that again here.

I am not a naked feet *****. But you are probably focusing on them now which is annoying. Even though I do not mind 1 or even 2 clips with naked feet, I have been skipping clips with naked feet tag recently. There are girls with really pretty feet who know how to show them. There are plenty of them but right now I think of Sabina as an example. Very playful lady with small pretty feet which SOMETIMES show them in erotic way, but mostly wearing shoes. I like naked feet presenting in that way.

There is another example. A certain lady with big feet taking of shoes after 2 seconds of being on my tasbar wearint an evening dress and showing feet with brieses and scars because shoes are too small for her. Then she paut feet close to me showing bones on toes and smiling. But the only thing I want now is to close the show and skip the model forever.

So there are a couple af ways. For example you have 6 cards of a girl. So you release 1 show focusing on feet with appropriate clothing. Then you release another show with no naked feet at all. In 4 other shows you add 1-2 naked feet clips BUT you add the same number of identical clips with heals. Sp like if a girl fullstripping with naked feet then you must have another clip with the girl stripping in heels. Then Feet lovers will enjoy feet, feet ***** will disable those clips, and the majority of ppl who doesnt care will enjoy the show.

but the thing is you should definitely reduce naked feet focusing you are having now. And also pay attention to tags. heels, naked feet, and so on ...

I like to look at naked women, but I also like to see them take a while to get naked. For me, more tease would be better, but in the end I still what to see them naked.

@91hebasu

Thanks for the news! I can't wait...

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Hey BJ,
Once the Vegas studio is running full speed, we should start seeing more ethnic backgrounds in the girls. Asian, black, latin and so on. They have recently mentioned they intend to actively seek more variety in that area.

To me this is crazy it'll feel like the product is being watered down, because if my casting suggestions were answered and the girls i wanted started filtering in and i have to wait forever for her to get naked because she's slow-stripping and teasing???

I personally don't want alot of clips like "demo clips" for me that's almost like a game over this isn't real life this is fantasy this is after all an adult/porn product right?

I say keep it the way it is.

Hi, Rex.

As I said just few minutes ago in another post, for me naked feet ARE the matter.
Everytime you post a new card, I go to see the tags: if the model has naked feet, I surely buy it.
If a girl has more that one card, I buy only those with this feature.
Maybe I'll be insane, but I consider naked feet an enormous erotic charge.
I perfectly understand that Totem cannot satisfy everyone, but for me is a must-to-have...

Have a great time!


P.S.: I love very much also black women. No news in this argument?...
Thanks again!
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We're trying to find the right balance between girl getting naked to quick and over-stripping for the next months production.

You can be specific in the comments about which clip should start with more clothes on(as 2 full striptease on pole, or 2nd full nudity on the table etc).

Thanks!

We had numerous requests for naked feet in the past and we now pay attention to produce a clips with no shoes on a regular basis. We didn't realise Naked feet could ruin cards for other members, so we'd like your opinion on the matter to adjust the production.

I've always liked Merry... she's a fun loving girl! :)

Thanks for sharing...

Looking forward for Foxys first release.