Well 3Leg,
Any time a moderator removes a pic, they feel there's a good reason for doing it.

Not right to be making a mess somewhere and then derailing an important thread crying about it being cleaned up because you thought it was funny.


Everyone please continue voting and sharing your thoughts on the subject at hand.

Thank you

@Apasas: Thanks. I agree with you about Chem, she's another great model - and thus, she was exceptionnaly popular. Jana H is also a great performer. Unfortunately, I can't stand the boob jobs, so I usually skip her cards, along many others.

@crasherdnb good job as always. and it whould not be right 4 me not to say Heidi back. have a good sunday from D109 i'm OUT.

@Ragorn - Je suis d'accord avec le plupart de ce que tu dis. En fait, j'adore les clip dans lesquels les filles mettent les mains dans son slip.

Je pense que tu donnes de bons avis dans ton denier paragraph. Je trouvais qu'il y avaiit un bon equilibrium dans les show de Morgane et Jana Cova. J''ajouterais aussi Alizée, Chem et Jana H á cette liste.

i'm looking forward to monday.😐

(suite, puisque j'ai été coupé)

Tout ça pour dire qu'il est très possible de réaliser des clips sans nudité (ou avec seins nus) capables de réconcilier tout le monde. De la même façon que la fille n'a pas besoin d'être totalement nue afin de se livrer à des séquences de masturbation. À la limite, elle n'a pas besoin d'être nue du tout. On peut par exemple imaginer un modèle se masturbant en glissant une main dans sa culotte. Elle ne montre rien, le clip peut être classé sans nudité mais devrait plaire à bien des gens, à l'exeption de ceux qui n'apprécient que les séquences les plus osées.

Je crois personnellement que VGHD avait trouvé un bon équilibre avec des filles comme Jana Cova, Morgane, Natali Blond, Anna Tatu - toutes parmi les plus populaires. Elles pourraient servir de modèles à bien des égards.

@Rex et à l'équipe:

D'abord bonjour et merci de prendre le temps d'écouter votre clientèle. En ce qui concerne le sujet, votre problème provient essentiellement du fait que vous soyez pris pour tenter de réconcilier deux visions antinomiques de votre produit, entre d'une part ceux qui n'apprécient que les séquences les plus explicites et d'autre part, ceux qui se régalent des filles vêtues et des aspects "strip" et "teasing". Personnellement j'aprrécie ces deux aspects; mais ce qui constitue la singularité de VGHD, c'est cette possibilité d'apprécier nos petites coquines d'allumeuses. On se laisse aguicher avant de passer aux choses plus sérieuses. Du porno, il y en a plein sur Internet, du gratuit comme du payant. Mais très peu de sites nous offrent le côté aguicheur de VGHD. C'est ce qui distingue VGHD des autres produits de l'industrie. En bout de ligne, il est certain que la majorité de vos clients s'intéressent largement au côté explicite du produit - et donc vous ne pouvez pas réduire le nombre de ces clips - mais un bon nombre recherche également, voire essentiellement, le côté aguicheur et vêtu. Si vous abondonnez ces clients, vous perdrez également de bons payeurs.

Alors déjà, une des solutions ce serait d'offrir plus de clips non-nude et seins nus afin de satisfaire la seconde catégorie de vos clients. Les amateurs de clips explicites sont déjà largement servis alors qu'avec les nouvelles cartes la majorité des clips n'offre que de la nudité. Je ne propose pas de couper dans ces clips mais d'ajouter des clips de type "No nudity et Topless". Dans le passé on retrouvait entre 25 et 30 clips par carte. Maintenant on est plutôt entre 14 et 18. J'estime que vous devriez ramener plus de clips par carte, quite à réduire quelque peu la longueur des clips explicites sans en réduire le nombre (question de respecter la longueur des shows). De toute façon, bon nombre d'amateur de séquences explicites se plaignent de devoir endurer le striptease qui précède la masturbation. Alors, plutôt que de produire une carte de 3 minutes, où la fille prend 60 secondes pour enlever ses vêtements et 120 pour se masturber, autant produire 2 cartes, l'une disons de 80 secondes où la fille tease et aguiche, puis une de 100 secondes, constituant sa suite directe, où la fille enlèverait ses vêtements (ou ce qu'il lui en reste) dès son apparition, avant de passer aux choses sérieuses. Ce qui n'exclut pas la possibilité d'offrir aussi peut-être 2 clips avec strip-tease intégral et séquence osée.

Ensuite, il est très possible de rendre les clips "No nudity" et "Topless" plus attrayants pour tout le monde. Le modèle à l'écran se doit simplement de captiver son auditoire, d'agir de façon sexuée même si elle est vêtue. Assise sur la barre, rien ne l'empêche de masser ses seins par dessus ses vêtements, tout en nous souriant de façon coquine. Puis de flasher un sein, de remonter sa jupe jusqu'à sa taille afin de dévoiler son porte-jarretelle, avant de rabattre sa jupe et de faire non du doigt. Quitte à nous tirer la langue par la suite.

Un autre exemple: le modèle arrive à l'écran, vêtu en secrétaire, avec minijupe juste au-dessus du genou. Elle déboutonne sa blouse, révélant un soutien-gorge en lingerie fine; elle masse ses seins, en dégage un de son soutien-gorge, liche son sein, fait pareil avec son 2e sein, saisit les mamelons et les fait rouler entre ses doigts, pince légèrement sur ses mamelons, joue avec, puis rhabille ses seins. Notre secrétaire marche jusqu'à son bureau, style "Lucynova, Young Secretary", s'asseoit, puis nous fait une scène à la Basic Instinct, croisant et recroisant les jambes afin de titiller son auditoire. Même si elle ne porte pas de string, la scène devrait satisfaire même la plupart des amateurs de non-nude. La scène suivante? Notre secrétaire vient s'asseoir sur le bureau, refait le coup des jambes croisées et recroisées, puis retire sa blouse, son soutien-gorge, joue avec ses seins, écarte les cuisses en grand et se masturbe - dans les limites permises sur VirtuaGirl. L

Sorry Mods, I forgot this was a fun-free forum. It's not like it was completely unrelated, but I guess even harmless humor has no place here.

@91Hebasu - Thanks for the clarification. For some reason, I read it as 'stripping too much' although that doesn't make sense in the context of the pole. So my mistake there.

In that case, the girls are not over-stripping from my point of view in recent cards. But it certainly occurred in the earlier cards.

@szalka: Nope. That is also a really good fun clip and she's got some great pole skills too! But I'm thinking of someone else... I'll have a good dig in my collection unless someone else knows which clip I mean...

@jununger http://www.virtuagirl.com/userProfile.php?usLogin=jununger : your comment on the first page is spot on. Clothed women can be as sexy and erotic than naked women. As well, naked women can be annoying. It mainly depends on what they do on screen, how, they move, how they play with our mind. Likewise, they don't have to fully undress in order to masturbate. The whole debate between over-stripping and getting naked too quick is mostly due to the inability from the girls and the "script writers" to find way of making interesting the clothed parts of the show.

@Apasas; I could have written your first comment, from "I buy VGHD because the girls are clothed" to "On the other hand, I don't want to go back to the days of the earlier cards where a girl could have several fully clothed clips where she just stands or sits about without even flashing anything". Really well said 😄

This is funny @The3LeggedMan, although I have not thought desirable.

Sounds to me like some people don't understand what Over Stripping is.

Over Stripping is when alot of time is spent wearing the outfit, doing the stripping part and there is Less Nudity.

Over Stripping is when alot of clips begin with the girl wearing her outfit, her doing the stripping thing during most of the clip and we only get to see nudity for a short time at the end.

@Hombre
I think you thought to Goldie's show (Rock The House - Nr.1126; this scene: a1126_68303), when she coming in nude into the pole bar and somebody bends her clothes, panties, mini dress and jacket and she dressed. Here she's very funny.
Goldie is a good artist and she has good sence of humour.

Nothing sexier than a woman in high heels. 😉


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Let's not start trying to turn a thread that Rex created for a reason important to him into some joke pic thread.

An another thing:
The girl's legs in high heels make into beautiful and sexy, but only a graceful shoes and high heels (see some old examples: Viki's, Sandra H's or Katerina H's shoes). In my opinion the platform shoes and heels only to there goth-, military- and domina scenes. I don't like the flat-heeled slippers, in my opinion deface the women's feet, I hope in VG in the future isn't used.
When the girl going barefoot noticeable how shoes she used. If the high heels, her walk more graceful, as those who have used flat-heels.

@Avatarr:
You're spot on with that Isizzu clip :D She does look gorgeous GETTING dressed. Reminds me of another fun clip but I forget who it was. A girl was stripping and chucking her clothes off to the side. Some bright spark kept throwing her clothes back on the set! Now that was unexpected and great fun to watch. ;)

I have looked at that most recent cards I have bought. Nearly all of them do not have any 'non-nudity' clips except for demo clips. So if I downloaded these without the demo there would be no non-nudity clips. To me this is evidence of over-stripping.

It should be noted that I often like to set the application at non-nudity. There are times I don't want topless or bottomless women girls appearing on my screen. But because there are no standard (I.e non-demo) non-nudity clips, many cards may not ever be played.

This is not just because the girl is wearing a transparent top. It usually is because the girl is stripping to topless in the first clips.

So I would like to have more standard clips which can be classed as non-nudity. As it us quite important to how I use the application.

In saying that, as I said in my previous post, I don't want to go back to the old days where there are many non-nudity clips where the girl doesn't do anything interesting. There are a couple of cards where a girl is wearing a short skirt, but doesn't flash her panties. Admittedly, the more recent cards don't seem to have this issue.

Feet mean sex for me. They are so obvious during sexual intercourse, on my shoulders, on my face or both sides of my face. Feet are an integral part of a beauty, part of her style. When a woman takes off her shoes, I may hear a promise. Even during pole dancing feet up feet out are exciting. On the other hand, when it becomes unnatural like asking a model to suck her toes, it turns ridiculous. Yes for "all naked feet" cards but please keep them natural

I think it would be best to have a varity amoung cards with respect to "stripping speed". This will keep things interesting and avoid a uniform experience where every card feels the same. The approach proposed by others to leave this up to the girls to some extends seems reasonable for me. If a girl does not feel too comfortable with pole dancing then she should start to strip off her clothes instead (or do something else) to keep the show interesting.

Nevertheless I voted in the poll "Get naked too quick".
I feel that some of the recent cards could be improved by additional layers of clothing. For example: Sapphira - #0183 and Katya Clover - #0221 start out with rather conservative outfits. In the show the girls get nude quite fast because they don't wear any bra. A sexy bra would look good on both girls, keep the show going for a longer time and postpone the final reward of full nudity.
For bikini and lingerie outfits I agree with szalka: applying accessories is the right way. Victoria Blaze - #1011 and Chelsea French - #0720 are some good examples where this has been done in the past.

depending on the outfit...like swimsuits for example but i must be honest to say i've been extremely dissapointed after bying shows where the models are wearing hot outfits ex: saphira a, camila chix, taylor sands, katya clover and more recently elen moore, just to find out they take the shoes off before theyre completely naked or like others have pointed out some clips even start with the model already barefooted...i love heels on women and seeing how fast they take them off ***** it for me and feel like i ***** my credits. i dont care about naked feet on over taskbar clips tho.
jc

Thx. @Apasas
all very good and job

Britney Classic

Depends.
If the show's f.e. beach-, bedroom-, bathroom-, next door girl- or ***** theme - are very good the barefoot scenes, but if the show's boss-, secretary-, cop-, military- or domina theme - are isn't allowed the barefoot scenes.

In my opinion in VG shows takes a girls need they have good movement and good dancers on the floor and on pole, if they not good dancers them must go in DB shows.

VG:
I agree: The diversity is the main thing in this theme.
Must be lot of dancing scene - a third part with clothed with upskirt and teasing, a third part with lingerie or topless and last third part in nude clips. It's important that the strip-tease to be slow and sensual.
If in the show the model wearing only one-peices swimsuite or bikini or bra-panties lingerie - here must be applying the accessories - f.e.: if tehy wearing swimsuite or bikini: bathrobe, towels, magazines, MP4 player, bike, if they wearing only lingerie: stockings, tights, book, chair and tables, etc., the models using their make-up kit, doing everyday little thing beside teasing and strip-tease.
Let more role play show with special clothes, the girls can used wig too.
The show could fall or winter theme with raincoat, umbrella, winter jacket, ski boot, etc. - but in the end good sexy strip-tease because it is the essence of things.
Previously made similar clips - but these earlier shows were too soft with minimal nudity and eroticism.

It's very important the clips don't be monotone and boring.

DB:
Please the 1nd-2nd (maybe 3rd too) clips are standing clips with her seductive dresses and here the girls make a good sexy and teasing strip-tease. Then can coming sitting clips with masturbating and sex.
Here also the diversity is the main thing.
Clothes, role play, several sex toys, etc. - and another important thing: This shows are sound and disturbing noise of the platform shoes in action, better if the girls are barefoot after stripping.

It's very important these clips also don't be monotone and boring.

I don't care much if a few close shots feature naked feet.
Standing / dancing / pole clips are usually better with model wearing shoes.

Nikky Case explains VGHD office policy...

*lool* Now I am *****. Do you guys mean fully nude, only wearing high heels are very appreciated? If so then I agree cause I think that's very sexy too! But for example poledance clips without shoes are imho redundant.

I agree with alex34780000: starting fully nude other than high heels in the standing and pole clips have imo something very sexy. Please keep these.

Thanks for asking/listening Rex!

I agree with Apasas & Maverick302.

Also, if you do clips that start out naked, best to NOT use standing or pole clips but use the sitting on taskbar or taskbar over clips.

@alex34780000, I think you mean 'fully nude other than high heels''.
..little wonder people get ***** on this forum. lol.

Well, seems everything that has relevance has been said.
Don't want it to become a flaming war.

Done

LOL, 91thebasu, I'm taking that as a hint - and will make said request.

Seriously, I love the Totem product, and I ***** that this problem has arisen.

Let it close.​

If the OP wishes for his thread to be closed so that he can just talk to a Team member through customer service or PM's, I can do that for you.

I'd be more than happy to defer to any Tolstoy wannabe, who has not only a law degree, but, also, a specific law degree in international business and international incorporation.

To the best of my knowledge, a self-professed "government" paid computer nerd does not fit the equation.

Now, I've ***** enough time reading nothing but a bunch of tripe​​ - as such, this is my last post on a thread that has morphed into the irrelevant diatribe and speculation of an uninformed member of this site.

For the record, I DO have a law degree, and have had one since the early '80s - but I'm not in the mood to make a fool of myself, by professing to ***** up a bunch of crap that I know absolutely NOTHING about - to wit - international law, and international corporate structure​, with an emphasis on the Homeland Security Act.

I'm sure that the puking will continue - along with the irrelevant vitriol directed at a simple post, which was meant to apprise Totem of a financial problem from the United States. ​

​

So you know......
There are other discussions in the forum about sound issues with at least one of these cards. Some of the time, sound issues with 3k cards turns out to be system issues.

Anyway, there is a STICKY thread set up for the purpose of reporting any issues with the cards. Totem team members do read it, work on fixes and notify us of said fixes. One of the reasons it's been set up like that is to avoid having threads scattered all over the forum about the same thing.


Forum > Bugs & Fixes > Please Fix these Cards http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?&foId=4&ftId=19359

www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?&foId=4&ftId=19359

With all due respect, a "domestic subsidiary" in the United States is still OWNED by the company that created it. In this case, Totem...which is in France...which is in Europe...which is where you can't buy anything from if the purchase originates in the United States using a "gift card". Totem won't be selling the new Las Vegas cards shot in Las Vegas FROM Las Vegas. You'll still be buying them from Totem, Europe.

No, I'm not "Tolstoy". Or a "highly acclaimed, international corporate lawyer". I don't even know what you MEAN by that. Lawyers don't "make laws". Governments do (at least in the U.S.). Lawyers might specialize in something like "International Corporate Law", but they can't PRACTICE in anyplace they aren't legally licensed to PRACTICE their law degree. Even if Totem has "international coporate lawyers", all those lawyes could DO is tell Totem something like, "Well, the U.S. laws prohibit somebody in the U.S. from using a gift card to purchase your product. Isn't anything you can do to change that." I guess if that makes them a "Tolstoy" that's somebody's opinion...which also isn't law.

Just trying to explain to some folks here why their expectations of Totem or their third-party billers are totally unrealistic.

Will it cost Totem lost revenue in sales because of the new laws? Only from U.S. customers who have totally unrealistic expectations from Totem. Or are too lazy to do what they may need to do to continue purchasing the product. Or are too scared that "somebody" might find out they ARE buying the product if they don't use an "anonymous" method to do it.

And as Wyldanimal also said, I am not representing Totem in any "official capacity" with my posts either. So if you want to get pissed off at me, that's fine. I won't lose any sleep over it. But don't get pissed off at Totem. They can't solve the problem of not being able to use "gift cards" from the U.S. anymore to buy their product...unless the current laws change. But I wouldn't hold my breath expecting anybody..lawyer or not...trying to "legally sue" the U.S. government to change the law. Do you honestly think that some "highly acclaimed, international corporate lawyers" in the U.S. representing U.S. companies wouln't have tried to prevent the law because it would cost the U.S. companies income? That is already happening too. Are you gonna buy any more Visa, Mastercard, etc "gift cards" to puchase tokens from Totem? Those U.S. companies just lost all the revenue from those "gift card" purchases you won't be making anymore. And NONE of the arguments from those companies or their lawyers prevented the law from being enacted. And it doesn't look like any of them are trying to sue the government over it. So if THEY couldn't prevent it or get it changed, what on Earth makes you think Totem or Epoch or THEIR lawyers can?

Now having said all that, if you are asking Totem to create a "subsidiary" in the U.S. that TOTALLY falls under U.S. corporate laws, and sells ALL of it's U.S. produced products FROM the U.S., that's a different question. Probably won't happen though, because the cost for Totem to do that would far outweigh any revenues they will lose if you quit buying their product from Europe anymore. All transactions for ALL of their cards, even the ones not filmed in the U.S., would have to be able to be purchased by you FROM their U.S. corporation if you wanted to buy the cards filmed in France using a "gift card", or you STILL wouldn't be able to purchase the cards filmed (sold) in/from France. I'm guessing Totem isn't going to want to spend that kind of money just because you can't use an "anonymous gift card" to buy their product from France anymore.

My opinion, more shows full nudity walking with high heels and in/out full nude will be very appreciated.
My most favourite shows from the past are those, especially the fully nude walking in high heels
The entry of eufrat in the db card c0019-64502 is one of the best examples in that sense

Wow. I had no idea that it was utterly impossible for Totem to incorporate a domestic subsidiary in the United States - thereby creating a "United States product."

I'm sure, however, that some of the highly acclaimed, international corporate lawyers on this site can duly advise Totem, regarding same.

The point of my original post was to make Totem aware that there was NOW a problem with buying credits with debit cards, in the United States. This just might result in a financial loss for Totem - something that Totem just might be interested in.

I had assumed that the posting of my thoughts on same were my prerogative.​

Totem renders a wonderful product, which I have very much enjoyed.

The point of my original post was that I hoped to continue enjoying same, and that something might be worked out by Totem.

For those who wish to play Tolstoy concerning this matter, especially the highly acclaimed, international corporate lawyers on this site, write on.

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FalconAF - 4 hour(s) ago
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You may want Totem to "set up a third-party company in the U.S. (like CCBill U.S, instead of the current CCBill EU)
...
CCBill U.S. may not be able to make that transaction for you EITHER, because it would be a "work around" for money laundering to take place to countries outside the U.S. CCBill U.S. would be using pre-paid debit or gift cards then (yours) to ***** the laws in place.

Exactly !!!!

The Final Product is Outside the USA. Does not Matter if the Biller is Here in the USA or in EU.
They CAN NOT process your USA GIFT card to purchase outside the USA.

I've Already Provided at least Two CASH to Card options.
What More Do you Not Understand?

The Law is the Law. It Can't be Changed.

Get a PO box.
Order a dang international Prepaid Card.
Got to Wallmart or CVS and USE CASH to put money on the Card.

Problem Solved!

Spouse Doesn't know...
Paper Trail Leads back to your PO box, Not Your Home.

This is How it works.. Deal with it.

PS This Me Posting as Me, Not as a MOD, not as anything Official from Totem
You are All Mature Adults, and as such, you should take time to learn the changes to the law.


any type of card that you DO NOT have to PUT in your NAME is a "GIFT" card.

Only a card that is Under YOUR NAME can be used for purchase outside the USA.
The CARD Must be Registered to you.

also, sorry I am not yelling. used caps for emphases.

Have just added some new Fracedelic Scenes. They are in a zip file located at

scenes.virtuastripper.net/No.6_Fracedelic_Scenes_03.zip

The new scenes include two new scenes (20 and 21) added to the original Fracedelic scenes list. There are also a couple of new abstract shaders scenes (14 and 15) added to the Abstract Shaders scenes list. There is also a new category "Psychedelic Shaders" which is similar to the abstract shaders but uses shaders that are more colourful and possibly simpler than some of the abstract ones.

I have added some additional images to the "fractal" and "fractal round" folders, including some of @Lunarpup's wonderful creations. These will work with the older fracedelic scenes (if you have them) as well as the new ones.

I have also added some more images for the Complex Function Psychedelic scenes. There are no new scenes for these but the additional images will work with existing scenes.

With the images the zip file is around 115MB.

Please note that the all the scenes in this zip file will work if installed to the their own folder but will work much better if installed into the same folder as the previous Fracedelic Scenes that I have issued. This gives a greater selection of images, etc. Please note that if installing with the previous Fracedelic scenes you may get some nags about duplicate files. Tell Windows to overwrite the files - this makes sure you have the latest version of the files.

Feel free to use any of the scenes for whatever you wish to.

Hello
Congratulations for your work so far.
Sound problems; Desk Babes:Cards 0043 Viola & Merry Pie, 0051 Lucy Li in 3K.😢
Can you fix it please.
Thanks

If you want to see a great pole routine, play Kiara Lord's Insatiable card 0121 clip e0121_2052041. Play it at slow speed with a slow dancing to jazz song playing.

Also take a look at Ava Courcelles Executive Assistant clips e014_6148204 and e014_6148401. Once again play at slow speed with a slow dancing jazz song playing.

Belle Claire in Upper Management doesn't use a pole, but her standup striptease routines like e0228_14336406 and e0228_22528407 are great at slow speed with slow dancing jazz playing.

These are great examples of what I would like to see from VirtuaGirl. Of course these are good looking women who have great interaction with you.

@Falcon: Buddy, you are absolutely correct in all you just said :)

I'd like to see more teasing, more dancing and stripping. Yes, I think the girls are getting in fact naked too quick. And there are too many clips where the girls are naked right from the start.

Just to be sure, I wasn't just focusing on "The Government" in my post. People in this thread are ***** about companies like Totem, Epoch, and any other third-party billing intermediary and saying things like, "They should change it!" No...they shouldn't. Because they CAN'T. They can't do anything that will allow someone to use "debit cards" the way you used to (overseas purchases from the U.S. specifically). These companies have to abide by the laws that are in place. You may want Totem to "set up a third-party company in the U.S. (like CCBill U.S, instead of the current CCBill EU) so you can use your prepid debit card to buy tokens. CCBill U.S. may not be able to make that transaction for you EITHER, because it would be a "work around" for money laundering to take place to countries outside the U.S. CCBill U.S. would be using pre-paid debit or gift cards then (yours) to ***** the laws in place. They would be the equivalent of the offshore money intermediaries "hiding" your (possible) money laundering transaction, and they aren't gonna be stupid enough to agree to put themselves in that situation.

The real "problem" is the purchaser's lack of access or willingness to use purchasing methods other than debit cards now. If you can't use a pre-paid debit card anymore, and are ***** to use a credt card or alternative payment method...for WHATEVER reason you may have...that is NOT anybody's problem except your own. "Waiting for Totem" to respond back to you with a "solution" that will make you happy is silly. There are numerous other methods available already for Totem as a company to do a financial transaction with you. Just because you may not like those other methods is not Totem's problem, nor should they have to appease anybody about any laws being changed.

Limiting your financial exposure is a smart safety precaution. But let's get real. There is a BIG difference between making a "secure online transaction" with a company like Totem vs going to "Pinky's Porn Emporium" in the Ukraine or a Third World country and giving them your credit or debit card info. CCBill and Epoch and the other payment options Totem uses have been around for a long time and are secure (barring any evidence to the contrary), so using any payment method that will leave a "paper trail" with them isn't the real issue. The SECURITY they provide you is DEPENDANT on them being able to IDENTIFY you are the real owner of the debit or credit card. They CAN'T do that if you try to use an "anonymous pre-paid debit or gift card". THAT is what the new laws are trying to prevent...the use of "anonymous" financial transactions to prevent "money laundering". They, like Totem, can't change the debit card laws. Neither can VISA, Mastercard, or American Express. But people here seem to expect them to.

When your credit or debit card gets "hacked" and you experience an "Identity Theft", it's usually because you gave your info to a site that was dishonest to begin with. Or your OWN computer wasn't secure enough, and a "hacker" got the info because your OWN computer was subject to compromise during the transaction.

It's a good thing to try and "limit your financial exposure" when makig Internet financial transactions. But you can also get paranoid about it too. Unless you are making ALL of your personal financial transactions with cash, you are exposed.

All I am saying is get your reasoning in line with you complaint issue about this whole topic. You can't use a pre-paid debit card with VG anymore? It's not Totem's or any of their third-party billing companies problem to solve THAT for you. They ALREADY have other viable payment options you can use.

You don't want to use any of those other viable payment options because you are trying to "hide" the fact you are buying Adult Content? That's YOUR problem to solve. Not Totem's. Not Epoch's. Not any third-party billing company VG uses.

If you have a "Significant Other" or an Employer that you could get into trouble with if they found out you were a "porn dog", that's YOUR problem. Don't insist Totem or anybody else provide you with a "secure method" to buy their product so you won't get "caught" doing it.

I'm pretty sad that in many forum threads there are endless repeat discussions about content (costume) disparities. I can't help feeling that if Totem was a company like Pixar, certain outfits would be specifically chroma-keyed and we would have a choice of options for outfits for any scene. Goodness sakes, we can't even get a wet skin filter for our models from the Team..(goodluck @HSS) Totem needs to do more post production R & D. Perhaps one trial clip with virtual clothes would be a useful way to approach this.

Yeah, I don't care about the whole government "paper trail" issue. When I stated earlier that I use prepaid because they don't leave a paper trail, I meant that I use them so my wife doesn't see my purchase in our banking account. If I was single, you'd bet that I owned every card available through direct purchase from bank 😛​ ! So, I guess in that case I misused the phrase "paper trail."

She knows I purchase them; she even brings them out on the desktop and flips through until one comes up with an outfit she likes. But that doesn't mean she's fine with me using our shared bank account to make these purchases- that's what my personal money that I recieve, like gifts (usually in the form of Visa gift cards) is for, including all of my other hobbies.

There's really no use in arguing over anything; we're just trying to give a suggestion to Totem that would result in immediate and continued purchases. As far as I know, we haven't heard one way or the other regarding the matter other than currently it is not possible to use these prepaid gift cards. We don't know whether to drop the subject or if it being discussed at all behind the scenes. Either way, the issue has been stated and a suggestion has been made and it's up to them from that point on.

I just feel it's important to let Totem know what is and is not worth it to me; obviously they're the judge a​​​​nd will do what's in the best interest of their business. They do give us a number of payment options, but adding this one guarantees sales, be it from someone like me who only uses gift cards due to ease, or someone who is worried about security and just needs that piece of mind. We're all customers to some extent, and I always feel like the more options the better! 😉

I totally agree with Jununger on this. Let the girls be creative and give them the time they need to find the right mood and provide more creative/stylish outfits. Plus it's about the variation of the different shows/cards of one girl so we can see the different aspects of her character/performance.

FalconAF you are not wrong . But it seems that you are only latching on to a single aspect of this. As some members have already stated; by using a pre-paid card you are limiting your financial exposure to those same online (if you will forgive the term "hackers") by purchaseing a pre-paid card with cash. You yourself have already stated that there is no such thing as internet security.

"Blaming Totem for any of it is ludicrous. They didn't change the laws." - absolutely right!

Of course if the south had won this would have never happened! -- LOL 😎