thanks @Plasonic for your links. They explain very well what is going on especially the second article which link i repost here:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/07/eu-porn-vote-ban
So for now no need to really worry. If the EU is one thing then SLOW. And i really can't imaging the yellow press without a naked womem on the front page of most releases.
So the essence is that you don't need to expect anything within the next 2 years. Remember that the original resolution is from 1997!!!!
This year we in Germany got Unisex prices for insurances which might be a consequence of this resolution.

We all know a shy girl. :)

From Google:
Je tiens à ajouter un commentaire aussi.
Le français n'est pas ma langue maternelle. Je dois utiliser un traducteur.

Modérateurs du forum sont PAS soutien Thechnical.
Nous ne sommes ici que pour s'assurer que les règles du forum sont suivies.

Oui, nous essayons d'aider là où nous le pouvons, mais ce n'est pas notre travail.

Totem a employess à temps plein qui sont responsables de l'aide.
PAS les modérateurs.

Donc, si et quand vous postez, et il semble ne pas obtenir une réponse.
Ne blâmez pas les modérateurs, il n'est pas de notre responsabilité.

Si nous voyons un poste n'a pas été répondu que nous essayons de prévenir l'équipe ..

English:
I wish to add a comment too.
French is not my primary Language. I have to use a translator.

Forum Moderators are NOT Thechnical Support.
We are only here to make sure the rules in the Forum are Followed.

Yes, we try to help where we can, but that is NOT our JOB.

Totem has full time Employess that are responsible for support.
NOT the Moderators.

So if and when you post, and it seems to not get answered.
Do Not Blame the Moderators, it is not our responsibility.

If we see a post hasn't been answered we try to Notify the Team..

Hey...I'm not going to continue doing this-you can all go & look up articles for yourselves-(I just cruised Yahoo-and found NO mention of it!)

...but here is a more comprehensive explanation that I thought would be informative, clarifying, & helpful .

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-03/07/eu-porn-vote-ban

I think it could be More Erotically explained and have more Fingering in it's keyboard Stroke delivery to be a more COMPLETE Expression but I have a lot of FantaSex regarding all those delegates beneath their desks and........

Oooops....forgot what I was commenting on here!

:)

Nighty night!
***

Hmmm..."Politicians pulling their heads out of their Asses"....
The new non-Porn????

Get on it Totem....Save the Income Stream!!

English:

Nana,

Sorry but I could not find the link. It just went to the Forum home page.

However I am guessing that it was a French member posting a request for help and was not answered?

If so, then there is no much that the mods can do about it and it does not explain why people are saying that the mods are causing the problem.

Alerte does a lot of helping there when he is able, but he is only one man. The help that is provided by the membership is freely available to all members, but not that many people outside Europe are
Able to speak or read multiple languages and it is an effort to manually translate from whatever language to their own, understand the problem and then translate the answer back to the original language. We cannot make anyone do this.

I also understand your point about not wanting to translate to English when the company itself is French. I can see how this would be very frustrating, maybe even very annoying. But again there is nothing I or the other mods can do about it.

I would have hoped that the French membership as a group could have handled this better, but again I or the other mods cannot ***** people to do this.

For better or worse, English has become the default language for much of the international community, even in business.

Maybe if we had a French moderator, then that might be helpful to some, but I doubt that Totem would be keen on having separate moderators for each community as that would be a lot of moderators.

I do not know how to address you concerns, because it is out of the control of the moderators, maybe you or some of the other members might like to nominate French speaker for a moderator role if you think that it would help, but I can tell you tat it is not always a fun job, and very rarely does anyone say thank you when they are rebuked for breaking the rules.

I will ask the team to look at this topic and see if they have any suggestions.

Cheers.

Translated by Bing Translator

Français :

Nana,

Désolé, mais j'ai pas pu trouver le lien. Il vient de passer à la page d'accueil du Forum.

Cependant, je devine qu'il était un membre français affichant une demande d'aide et qu'il n'a pas répondu ?

Si oui, alors il ya pas beaucoup que les mods peuvent faire à ce sujet et il n'explique pas pourquoi les gens disent que les mods sont à l'origine du problème.

Alerte fait beaucoup d'aider là quand il est capable, mais il n'est qu'un seul homme. L'aide fournie par les membres est disponible gratuitement à tous les membres, mais pas que beaucoup de gens en dehors de l'Europe sont
Capable de parler ou lire des langues multiples et c'est un effort pour traduire manuellement de quelque langue à leur propre, comprendre le problème et puis traduire la réponse à la langue d'origine. Nous ne pouvons pas faire n'importe pour ce faire.

Je comprends votre point de ne pas vouloir traduire vers l'anglais quand la société elle-même est le français. Je peux voir comment ce serait très frustrant, voire très gênant. Mais encore une fois, il n'y a rien que j'ai ou les autres mods pouvons faire à ce sujet.

J'aurais espéré que les membres français en tant que groupe aurait pu traiter cela mieux, mais encore une fois j'ai ou les autres mods ne pouvons pas forcer les gens à ce faire.

Pour le meilleur ou le pire, l'anglais est devenu la langue par défaut pour une grande partie de la communauté internationale, même dans les affaires.

Peut-être que si nous avions un animateur français, alors cela pourrait être utile à certains, mais je doute que le Totem serait désireux d'avoir des modérateurs distincts pour chaque collectivité car cela serait un grand nombre de modérateurs.

Je ne sais pas comment vous aborder des préoccupations, car il est hors du contrôle des modérateurs, peut-être vous ou certains autres membres aimeraient à nommer le Président français pour un rôle de modérateur si vous pensez que cela peut aider, mais je peux dire vous tat il n'est pas toujours un plaisir emploi et très rarement fait n'importe qui dire Merci lorsqu'ils sont réprimandés pour avoir enfreint les règles.

Je vais demander à l'équipe de se pencher sur ce sujet et voir s'ils ont des suggestions.

A bientôt.

Traduit par Bing Translator

Continued

mais c est simple si les français ne viennent plus c est parce que
personne de la direction ne prend la peine de faire leur sujet en français
et voici quelques exemples :
lors de la sortie d une nouvelle version du logiciel ou les ventes aux enchère des tenues

si un membre a un problème avec le logiciel ou pour acheter des crédits personne ne vient lui répondre si il créer un sujet
ne dites pas le contraire parce que voici une preuve ici avec un sujet ouvert il y a deux jours
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=4&ftId=24803
et je pourrais en donner d autre

ps: je ne traduis pas en anglais ça ne sert à rien je suis française avant tout et le site étant créé par des français je ne vois pas pourquoi je devrais écrire en anglais pour être lu

Français:

Moustache & CarlesDavidElli,

Je suis désolé mais je ne partage pas avec un de vous

Les sujets français sont pas traitées différemment que les autres. Personnellement, je laisse généralement les sujets anglais seul, à moins qu'il y a quelque chose de très spécifique qui devait être fait.

Les autres modérateurs n'ont pas été lourds remis en répondant à une question sur des sujets français.

Si je me souviens bien il y a toujours eu un membre de langue français suspendue et que l'interdiction a été rendue permanente par l'équipe pas un modérateur. ATTENDU que plusieurs anglophones uniquement membres ont été suspendues.

Je ne sais pas pourquoi vous pensez que les modérateurs sont plus durs sur vous que quelqu'un d'autre, peut-être si vous pouviez donner quelques exemples, même si c'est au moyen d'un PM, alors peut-être que nous pouvons comprendre votre point de vue ?

Traduit par Bing Translator


English:

Moustache & CarlesDavidElli,

I am sorry but I do not agree with either of you

The French topics are treated no differently that the rest. Personally I generally leave the French Topics alone unless there is something very specific that needed to be done.

The other moderators have not been heavy handed when responding to an issue on French topics.

If I remember correctly there has only ever been one French speaking member suspended and that ban was made permanent by the Team not a moderator. Whereas more than a few English only speaking members have been suspended.

I do not know why you think that the moderators are harder on you than any one else, perhaps if you could give some examples, even if it is by way of a PM, then maybe we can understand your point of view?

Good points, BigSteve! Personally, I wouldn't define VGHD as "porn" myself. It is a far ***** from most of the "porn" out there. I don't care much for the "hardcore" stuff, but VirtuaGirl is an excellent site, and it is more about appreciating beautiful women than explicit sex.
I also agree with your statement about the definition of porn, and the legalities involved in what the EU wants to do.
The main reason I posted this thread, after reading an article about it, is to attempt to gauge the reaction to this news in Europe...and to bring it to the attention of members who may be interested in what the EU is trying to do.
Thanks to everybody who has responded...it seems we're all on the "same page".

Guys. Your posts are very funny.

Definitely "Yes" for Aria Giovanni, but I'm not so excited about seeing Felina (now about age 45) come back. So I had to vote "Maybe."

Even if it's possible to come up with a legally enforceable definition of porn (which is most likely impossible), it's entirely possible that VirtuaGirl would not meet the definition. Even if VirtuaGirl did meet the definition, are EU's rules really higher than the sovereign nation of France's laws and regulations?

Indeed...and these politicians and lawmakers need somebody to pull their heads out of their asses.

Thanks for fixing the count, coldinjected.

Current Ladder:

Gracy-*****
Viki
Silver
Maya Mai

Current Votes:

Gracy-***** 8
Viki 6

Interesting article indeed.

Politicians and lawmakers that don't want to hear anything from the citizens and have all their e-mails blocked.......imagine that.

The VGHD gym is the place to go if you want to exercise your body and mind.

Wow!
Here's an interesting article on it!

http://news.techeye.net/internet/european-union-signs-its-own-death-warrant

I thought it would be good for Totem to being back some women I think most of us want to see again. Aria came back, but I think it's time for her to return. Felina is from France. These two should come back and do DeskBabes. If not together, that would be awesome by the way, then separately.

What do you think?

I read a news article yesterday about the EU (European Union) shutting down "porn sites". If they accomplish their goal, what will become of this awesome site and the great community it fosters? Totem is located in France, if I'm not mistaken, so anything the EU does will likely have an impact on it.
Is there a way we can fight this decision by the EU???

Having said what I said, my first play of 'Honey Bunny' she popped up from behind the task bar close to the camera... so I'm eating my words...;)

They say they now refresh the packs every 24 hours. So... shop early and often!

Rex said
[...] I really believe using the pole and the cage only when it make sense is among they keys. Both have to be a nice surprise and not mandatory to every card.

That is really great news. We have seen so many shows with mediocre pole clips. So often i would have wished that the pole clips would not have been mandatory for each show no matter how talented or maybe even scared the model is of it.
Now to read these word from the Boss is just fantastic. This should really help to get better shows.

@Moustache...je suis d'accord avec vous (Spain)

like the old way more, so not for me, let's get rid of it ASAP.
it's just not sexy.

I would buy it...

Some of my posts refer to specific VGHD cards. So I refer to them for those who may not be familiar with the cards.

This post refers to Ting's Made in Taiwan card.

The post above refers to Pussykat's Maid in China card.

Moustache a écrit:
"Les modérateurs ont saboté et fait en sorte que tout quitter"

Ce n'est pas vrai.

Tous sont les bienvenus ici.
Vous n'avez pas besoin de connaître l'anglais.

Mais vous devez suivre les règles.
Certains membres Enfreindre les règles et pense que les modérateurs sont contre eux.
Ce n'est pas vrai, nous ne sommes contre personne.
Mais nous ne devons respecter les règles.

Bienvenue,

profiter,

Amusez-vous,

mais suivre les règles.


English:
Moustache wrote:
"The moderators have sabotaged and made ​​sure that all leave"

This is not true.

All are welcome here.
You do not need to know English.

But you must follow the rules.
Some members Break the rules and think moderators are against them.
This is not true, we are not against anyone.
But we do have to enforce the rules.

Welcome,

enjoy,

Have fun,

but follow the rules.

It's amazing how men and women can say the same thing with two completely different meanings...

The guy is from virtuaguy.

Viki... (fixing count)

Viki 6
Gracy 8

This is a tough one but my vote goes to Viki
Viki 3
Gracy-***** 3

@The3LeggedMan, very well said... Thank you!

I think the problem we have may be that there's no opportunity to choose right now what to download for the particular card.
If I really don't like the cage, I do not have to explain why. I just don't have to download it and that's all ];-)
Deleting or disabling these clips later via Clip Selector (this option is not for everyone) is just an alternate exit, not a solution - more flexibility would be a very good in the future I guess.

I really appreciate the interaction from Rex VGHD. And Rex's response on Saturday morning too!!!

I commend Totem for trying new things. And I commend Totem for allowing us to vigorously discuss these things.

I am not a fan of the cage. But as CB says, some models may use it inventively and may make it appealing. In the end it's just like any prop.

viki ^^

Gracy ***** 8
Viki 4

I agree with most replies in the thread. Starting this poll was only meant to see how people stand towards the cage now that it's been used a couple of times. Variety is always a good thing, and Totem is doing a good job at that, using various items like fitness equipment, cars, bathtubs and now a cage. One thing that makes Totem great is the way feedback from the users is taken into consideration, let's not forget the cage was introduced based on user feedback.

Adding anything new to VirtuaGirl is always tricky and its difficult to get things right right away, that's why we have the forum to get feedback. Cage seemed a good idea, we already tuned production reading the first comments and will continue to do that. I really believe using the pole and the cage only when it make sense is among they keys. Both have to be a nice surprise and not mandatory to every card.

Eufrat and Ariel, together, both with orange hair

Gracy *****!

Gracy ***** - 8
Viki - 3

Gracy *****

Gracy ***** 7
Viki 3

I find it rather interesting that so few people have indicated that they realise tastes differ and they they are willing to put up with a few things they do not enjoy, because they know other people do enjoy them.

The majority seem to be of the view "stuff the others, get rid of something because I don't like it and give me more of what I like".

Now if we all took that attitude seriously Totem may as well close up shop because they will never produce anything that is loved by everyone.

My own tastes differ but like CV I don't make a fuss, even though it has cost me more of the cards that I enjoy most.

Viki

Gracy ***** 6 - Viki 3

Personally I dislike the use of the cage. To me the cage represents our mental, physical and spiritual confinement to the self-mutilating system of societal norms. Even when given the chance to break free and create our own destiny, most of us retreat back into the safety and comfort of our proverbial cages and watch as life passes by. We are chained by our own self-imposed limitations, while the key to open our cage and unleash our fullest potential rests inside the keyhole, ready to be turned. But it never does because the uncertainty of life holds us back. So we sit in our cages, content with the measly cramped space we have to ourselves, as the true meaning of freedom fades from memory.

Gracy-Anne 6

Viki 2

Gracy-*****

Gracy-***** 5

Viki 2

I am respectfully requesting all my loyal fellow members to take part in this poll. If making comment is not your cup of tea then please just vote your preference at the top of this column. Your opinion matters and will most certainly be taken into consideration. Thank You!

I'm sorry. I do not usually look this thread. But thanks for the clarification. We are waiting for her.

Current Ladder:

Gracy-*****
Viki
Silver
Maya Mai

Gracy-***** for me.

Gracy-***** - 4
Viki - 2

Gracy-*****: 3
Viki: 2

I'm not going to mention she's blond.

Gracy-***** for me

Gracy-*****: 2
Viki: 2

Gracy-*****

Viki 2
Gracy-***** 1