Not a crusade (a Religious war) a Question

You saicd it @pearljam. I was sure angel would win

WOW!! What a comeback for Mandy.

Politicians?

What in the world that has to do with anything said here?

Who cares if somewhere in the world someone got ***** using a prop? What are you talking about? What is so delicate about a model playing with a toy gun? The model in a plane never took off, did she? What is the right way for a non-pilot model on a plane to pose for a photoset? Do you think a girl that gonna pretend a toy gun is a dick by licking it should first take a firearm training at the FBI headquarters?

VG is just fantasy, is not even a real striptease club. If all you see is how a hot girl getting naked is holding improperly a prop, I would say... What prop?

Those are also guns in my state.

This really needs to be put to a stop. It's nothing but one member's crusade against the girls using PROP guns.

You guys are just focusing on the negative uses of guns, to ***** or ***** others. But guns also play a very important self defense role. When I see a girl with a gun I don't feel like she will go on a shooting spree at any moment, instead I see someone who can defend herself against an aggressor that could be many times her size. That's why they call guns the great equalizer.

And about the gun props used in several shows, no one is taking that role seriously so I don't see how anyone can pick up any bad habits from watching a stripper mishandle a gun. That's like trying to learn how to ride a motorcycle from watching Carla Pacini's Fast and Sexy card. If you're looking for proper weapon familiarization, this is the last site on the internet to look for it.

Here is Viola

Re: I've seen models, and even cheerleaders, inside a tank, a combat plane, with martial arms, as ancient warriors, with any type of firearms and any type of dungeon stuff.

Yeah and politicians, too. Some how the more familiar I am with an object the higher the standard I set for someone else who is shown with one. I'm not saying that right or rational. It's just the way I'm built. A model sitting in an airplane's pilot seat wouldn't bother me, but if she grabs the prop, I'd be bothered. (I fly small propeller plans and getting near the prop is a big time safety issue. I seem to recall a model was injured by walking into a prop a few years ago.)

I've seen models, and even cheerleaders, inside a tank, a combat plane, with martial arms, as ancient warriors, with any type of firearms and any type of dungeon stuff.

When I see a model in leather holding a whip I'm not thinking that she is a dark ages torturer. She is just a model playing kinky.

If she is holding a firearm, and you like firearms, she is just a girl playing with a prop and you can imagine, if you like, that she is using it just as a phallic prop or you can imagine her as a ruthless *****. If you imagine death and ***** with the VG stuff, well, surely you see that everywhere.

And yup, actually, girls here had used a wrench, a duster, a tennis racket and many many other stuff. And it is sexy, cause, again, all those props are phallic props they use to tease. The dancing pole is a giant phallic prop. Never saw them rubbing against it, pretending to jerking it and even licking it? All is just fantasy and all is related to tease and arouse the male audience.

If someone wants to see anything but a girl playing with a symbolic phallus, in a porn site on top of that, surely plenty stuff keeps ya awake at night.

Re: They are just "Playing The Part". It's not real life.

I guess that's the issue for me. Regardless of the prop I'm happier if the girls seem to know what they are doing. I know it's not real life, but the more genuine the girl seems in her character, the better I like it. I'm a bit more sensitive to guns because I know more about them than other props.

Hummmm! Maybe that's way I'm not attracted to DG very much. I've never seen a real vibrator in action.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but seems to me that OP's concern is rather more about the guns as a message of violence and *****.
When there is a Girl on a stage, with a firearm in her hands, it means obviously: you'd better don't mess with me, or I'm gonna ***** you...
Nothing about sex and love... or is it?

If you'd ask from me, would I prefer to get ***** by a half naked girl, or a robber, who just wants my watch, wallet and car keys... Well, there's no difference in the final result, right?

So, if someone's walking around on the stage with the gun, it doesn't seem to be exciting. Replicas or not.

I don't think, guns are dangerous. Just some people are, however still prefer to see no firearms on the stage.

This wasn't meant to argue with anyone, just my humble opinion, a little contribution to this topic, that's all.

The point is people copying bad habits

And I said State not "military who happen to be in your state"

But guns are not sexy
they are tools for a function

Would you find a girl holding a sink plunger sexy?
Maybe a can opener?
how about a large watering can?

Especially them there cars...they're really dangerous...I don't like seeing girls posing over a car bonnet (hood)...someone might be impressionable enough to drive one, and the statistics will skyrocket as a result of that irresponsibility !...

Somehow, I seriously doubt you have more firearms than a state that has several military bases in it. Including a main hub and training base. So........


Yes, they're untrained. However, they aren't handling real firearms either.

It's not like they're handing fully loaded Hk416's to the models.

91 I probably own more fire power than your entire State

The point is Guns are dangerous
especially in the hands of untrained people

More than that. People in America seems to think the whole world can access real fireguns. News to some, Totem is in France. They don't use anything but replicas or they would be arrested.

A Nerf gun is more dangerous that anything you see the girls here are using and nobody would give anywhere a loaded firearm to a clueless model unless they are criminals or the biggest dumbasses in the world.

Is just fantasy, enjoy the girls trying to play sexy with the props, whatever they are. There are no concerns about safety here, just personal taste.

Seriously.

Let's not turn this into an Anti Gun, Guns ***** People, Guns *****, Right To Arms argument.

If you don't like the idea of one of the girls toting a firearm, don't buy the card. If you get it in subscription but don't want it, don't download it. They're not being ***** on you.

Don't try to say it shouldn't be available to anyone who may like the idea just because YOU don't want to see it.

Of course, if a girl has no clue how to handle a firearm, it's gonna look kinda cheesy. It would be much more convincing if the girl with the gun prop actually knows a bit about guns. Keep in mind though......They are just "Playing The Part". It's not real life.

This isn't the first time I've heard this Guns Are Dangerous argument here and, quite frankly, it's getting old already.

"Beardy's Bounty" (Viola) is Viola Paige & Viola Oh on Freeones.

Oh the sound of a happy babe......

http://www.freeones.com/html/v_links/Viola_Oh/links/

@The3LeggedMan,

"The machine gun bra looks pretty cool too"...

Absolutely! 'Cause it probably shoots the milk ];-))

I was not aware that Jasmine requested her old alias not to be known. Does that affiliate include Freeones because that's where I found it?

some nice links here of girls with guns :-)

http://ww4.actiongirls.com/gallery102/Merc-LeeAnna-pica-ac/

http://recruits.actiongirls.com/gallery161/Rachel-pics-ac/

http://ww4.actiongirls.com/gallery101/Mad-Jordan-pics-ac/?1279325

http://ww5.actiongirls.com/gallery79/Mya-pics-ac/

http://ww4.actiongirls.com/gallery4/Adrianna-Zarcova/new.html?1279325

If you are going to use Guns use them safely and correctly
otherwise someone will pick one up and use it wrong
And maybe get *****

Tight race, way to go Mandy!
I wonder if it will be as tight against Angel Kiss, and who I will vote for :)

Current Updated Ladder

1 Anna Tatu
2 Gracy *****
3 Tess Lyndon
4 Viki
5 Melisa
6 Morgane
7 Ariel
8 Kami
9 Victoria Sweet
10 Alyssia
11 Eve Angel
12 Miela
13 Maya Mai
14 Jana Cova
15 Angelica Kitten
16 Trisha
17 Marjana
18 Claire Castel
19 Kathy Moore
20 Zuzana
21 Bijou
22 Aria Giovanni
23 Natali Blond
24 Little Caprice
25 Eufrat
26 Antonia
27 Sandra Shine
28 Dominika C
29 Lorena
30 Sandra H
31 Vani
32 Zara
33 Chelsea French
34 Isabella Chrystin
35 Sharka Blue
36 Nikky Case
37 Conny
38 Angel Kiss
39 Mandy Dee
40 Blue Angel
41 Lucky
42 Heaven
43 Linet A
44 Carmen Gemini
45 Satin Bloom
46 Jasmine Andreas
47 Aleska Diamond
48 Alina
49 Nicca
50 Dandelion

Girls that have been knocked off the ladder, can not return to ladder

Jennifer Galbina
Mirka
Samantha Lee
Bella
Melissa K
Priscilia Jones
Silver
Davon Kim
Ennie

It's been a few pages since the updated rules were posted, so I'll repost them.

Rules of the vghd ladder competition
1 A ladder is formed by - VGHD only - girls challenging each other daily from 12:00 to 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.
1a The maximum number of girls on the ladder is 50. If a new challenger challenges position number 50 and loses, she is assumed to have fallen off the ladder and can’t return on it.
2a Votes can be posted for either one of the two girls that are challenging each other. A person can only cast 1 vote per challenge. Votes should be posted specifically mentioning the girl voted for ánd the new score in the current challenge for both girls, like so:

“I Vote for
x votes
y votes”
2b If a person doesn’t state the girl he/she votes for ánd doesn’t update the score so that it’s clear who gets the vote, the vote does not count.
3 A challenge ends when 10 votes are cast for a girl ór the challenge reaches the allotted end-time, which is 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.
3a An exception to the 10-vote win is a challenge started by a girl who's already on the ladder, she only needs 5 votes in her first challenge. The person who proposed this challenger is automatically assumed to have voted for that girl at the start of this particular race-to-5 challenge. If the challenger wins she needs the regular 10 in each next challenge of her winning streak. BUT if she loses this first challenge (race to 5) she drops 10 spots on the ladder! If she’s on position 41 and down she drops to the bottom of the ladder.
3b An exception to the 12:00 to 12:00 Paris time challenge duration is when a new challenger is picked more than 12 hours after the previous challenge time ended (so after 00:00 Paris time) ánd the challenge is not won at 12:00 Paris time (the normal end time), in which case the challenge runs for another day until 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.

4 If the challenger wins, she automatically challenges the next higher girl.
If the challenger loses (the other girl has more or equal votes), the last person to legally vote picks a new challenger. He/she will still have to vote during the new challenge.
4a A challenger that is already on the ladder can be chosen to challenge the girl that is 1 position higher on the ladder (see also rule 3a).
4b A challenger who is not already on the ladder will challenge the girl on the lowest position of the ladder.
4c If the last person that cast a legal vote fails to propose a challenger within 1 day (ie 12:00 Paris time after the last challenge), one is picked by member84392371 or JayZ971.

5a If a girl loses a challenge with 0 votes she falls off the ladder for good! The same goes for a girl that lost while on the 50th spot of the ladder.
5b A girl that was kicked off the ladder cannot return on it (at the time of writing this version of the rules this regards Mirka, Jennifer Galbina, Samantha Lee, Bella, Melissa K, Silver, Priscilia Jones, Davon Kim & Ennie)

6 In case of doubt about voting, the ladder, who gets to pick a challenger, who won a challenge etc., member84392371 decides.
The rules can be adjusted/changed if needed by member84392371 by himself or through discussion/suggestions in the thread.
If you have a question or complaint send a pm to member84392371

Mandy Dee wins....

Mandy Dee 10

Blue Angel 9

Mandy Dee now faces Angel Kiss

Starts tomorrow 12:00 P.M. Central European Time (Paris Time Zone)

About 17 hours from now.

@Wyldanimal Mandy Dee is the current challenger & continues until she loses a challenge, thank you for voting & participating

These are the only guns I wanna see on a girl^

The machine gun bra looks pretty cool too.

;-)

Mandy Dee

Mandy Dee 10
Blue Angel 9

I Pick Angelique

score is


Mandy Dee 9
Blue Angel 9

it's ok lol

I did correct my score, it always happens to me when I vote someone else decides to as well :-)

hey, correct score is


Mandy Dee 9
Blue Angel 9

It was a difficult decision but Blue Angel prevails

Blue Angel – 9

Mandy Dee - 9

Mandy Dee for me as well

Mandy Dee 9
Blue Angel 8

Mandy Dee for me!

Mandy Dee 8
Blue Angel 8

I find it quite chuckly, when folk ***** about strippers with guns and then criticise their ability to hold it, squeeze it, in proper stance etc...
I, also, like guns and I also like girls a lot.
Guns don't make girls hot !...
A hot girl with a gun is a hot girl !...
I believe someone (it may have been me) posted a picture on that historic thread, of a bullpup.....I think they're cool...
Next hot girl please !...:)

... and therefore, firearms training would be a pointless waste of money. Money that could be used for better props or more costumes.

Mandy

Mandy Dee 7
Blue Angel 8

Re: don't think Totem has access to real firearms. All the guns in these scenes are props...

I certainly hope so. Even in the US I would hope that only props would be used for such an act.

Mandy Dee!

Mandy Dee 6
Blue Angel 8

I don't think Totem has access to real firearms. All the guns in these scenes are props...

Mandy Dee

Mandy Dee:5

Blue Angel: 8

Don't get me wrong here. I actually like guns and weapons of any kind as inventions, perfect machines and an ancient part of our culture and history of our surviving...

And I also like Girls very very much, however, Dorsai said it very well: "... But guns are not toys and I don't like girls treating them like toys."

Weapons should be treated with deep respect. A Gun can be your best friend... or the worst enemy - it all depends on you.

Blue Angel

Blue Angel 8
Mandy Dee 4

Mandy Dee

Mandy Dee 4
Blue Angel 7

Linsay Olsen is holding the gun incorrectly (By the magazine) Im not sure about this particular model but some Bullpups become extremely hot when firing
perhaps some lessons purely for health and safety purposes?

Mandy Dee

Mandy Dee 3
Blue Angel 7

Jasmine Andreas has an alias,

links here:

http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links/Jasmine_Andreas/





As asked a bit further up on this thread, Star has an alias as well, Kayleigh Williams

link here:

http://www.freeones.com/html/k_links/Kayleigh_Williams/

EDITJasmine Alias has been removed, the model requested long ago not to have her real name posted on this forum and also requested it removed from all affiliate sites, i hope other affiliates have removed it.

Blue Angel for sure!!

Blue Angel 7

Mandy Dee 2