It hasnt ruined her for me in the slightest TBH, hell I am still gonna jump on the fishnet card when it comes out. I mean I don't like it, but I can see why they put her as an exclusive

Ginebra Bellucci's cards are now reminding me of the negative feelings I have of the way totem is trying to milk me for money using her and a gambling game. It makes me not want to watch my Ginebra cards.

Which SUCKS cause I love my Ginebra cards!

From @Nikotem in the make a wish card thread which asked about why Ginebra' "Make A Wish" hasn't been released..........

Hi guys!
no problem at all with this card ;-)
we may keep such outfits in the future for special occasions, as some have supposed here (;-) )
but sorry, I can't tell you when this one will be released... as I don't even know myself for now (ready to go, but not planned yet).

So that means this also will be a "Exclusive Card" too.............probably, waiting a Long Time for it..........
( I'm guessing here......have no info)

More disappointing than the promotion itself is the lack of tangible response from Totem. Sure, a couple of comments - but really, they should turn this thing around. It's creating a LOT of bad *****.

Me personally, I've purchased a bunch of tokens, and the credits have been deducted ... but I did not receive the tickets. An even worse experience overall.

Still SMH over this one.

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Edit:

Luckily, I restarted the app and the tickets I thought I'd lost were available - so there was that.

I *finally* unlocked the Special Event Card, but it took around 2000 credits gambled. In fairness, I got most of them back with credit wins, but it definitely didn't feel "enjoyable" for a collector like me - more like "annoying".

Something that felt wrong to me too is that I never one a "1 card" promotion ... because I have them all ... so I'm guessing the algorithm isn't entirely random, which is maddening.

I really think Totem should put an end to the "gambling" aspects of iStripper. Just let people buy what they want, for crissakes. Collectors like myself with THOUSANDS of dollars invested don't care for these gimmicks.

I'm all for "lucky promotions" where you get a bonus if you purchase in bulk (like the Feb promotion), and even for "surprise" bonuses. But straight up gambling with credits is frustrating.

C'mon Totem - you're much better than that. You've been doing this for 20 years, so surely by now you've figured out what customers want?

A lot of negative posts..........guess I'll add my 2 cents.........

Full disclosure......I have not participated in this "Game" and don't intend to as I value my credits a whole lot.
I have lost total confidence in @Totem. As an owner of the first 2 Advent Calendars, in the first post in each thread, the "exclusive" card was never to be offered outside of the calendar. Since @Totem has gone back on it's word to Calendar owners, who's to believe they "will make "the exclusive cards available" in other promotions" in the future....not me.....can not take their word for it. Alyssia Kent's exclusive card, received from getting 10 stars from the "Black Friday" event last Thanksgiving weekend, had No restrictions put on it, so that card Can be offered in other promotions. Which I don't have any problem with. So I will not "gamble" my credits to have a "chance" at Ginebra's card or get cards that I Do Not Want. I am not a collector, I am a selector, with about 85-90% of cards in my collection. The other 10-15% I am not interested in getting, another reason I will not play this "Game"

Having "Exclusive Cards" in the Girls Store makes No Sense. To me, exclusive cards are Exactly like the cards removed from the store........they DO NOT belong there. In a future version of the software, hopefully @Totem will realize it's mistake and Remove the "Special Event" cards from the store as this has caused anger from a lot of members.

No response from @Totem, don't expect one, they are getting the desired results, lots of members gambling away their credits trying to get a "Exclusive" card. And don't be surprised if this happens in the future.

@Totem is concentrating on it's new members as they are bringing a higher profit level than it's long time members, which I understand. By coincidence, this weekend marked my 10th anniversity with VirtuaGirl/iStripper 😎 But if this trend continues, which sadly I do believe, I would have to think long & hard about my future with iStripper...........as other longtime members should. We have been with you a long time @Totem....don't ignore us 😕

To those of you that got Ginebra's card, congratulations on getting the card, hope it was worth it. Looks like I won't be joining you as @Totem doesn't want me to have the card 😭 But i'll do without it.

I'll stop here, as adding any more will cause me to get more upset than I already am 😠👎👎

Again, just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.................

I came here hoping to find out what makes the special event cards "special", and what causes cards such as the new Kay J card to cost more than a usual card.

My impression is that a card will cost more if it features a more expensive, specialized outfit that doesn't have much potential for re-use, such as:

• Kay J's "Victorian Secret" (f0431)
• Nancy A's "Wicked Witch" (e0618)
• Paulin'a "Shape Shifter" (e1078) - (The mask was nice and might have been pricey.)

A card's cost can also be increased if it features multiple models, such as Lucy Heart's "Sex on the Beach" (f0097). It's not surprising that in these cases Totem passes on the increased production costs to the buyers of those cards.

The exclusive cards seem to be chosen based on the promotion they are incentivizing. Totem has conducted a bikini-themed promotion during the early months of the last two years (Jan. 2017 and March 2018), so it's not surprising they would do one this year as well. From the previews, Ginebra's Flash Flood seems to be a very nice card that's perfect for this promotion. It make's me wonder whether they will hold her genie card to be an exclusive for Halloween this year.

I have been a customer for many years and have not posted often, but I have to in this case. I came here hoping to find out what makes the special event cards "special", and what causes cards such as the new Kay J card to cost more than a usual card. What is so great about that outfit, really? That's beside the point. After I saw the snarky comment from that mod, I was pretty irritated. This customer had a legit question and the person was a jerk to that customer. A lot of people have poured money into the product and simply wish there were a way to purchase the cards they want, in a program that boasts how interactive and customizable it is. Gee whiz...

It won't matter, but I can't just sit here and read all this without saying something. I may be even more selective about my purchases than I have been as of late..

I won 230 credits but spent 230 credits and ALMOST won the special card twice.

I'm not angry. Disappointed fits better. My collection is nearly complete. I'm only missng the VG classic cards. I don't have any interest in cards that are that low of a resolution. So gambling to get quality video (special event) cards, with the odds against me, and then ending up with nothing or a low quality card isn't going to happen. I have loyally supported this product. I will continue to do so. But I am disappointed.

Either they increased the odds or i am just lucky.. can't say which one.

if they did that I would be pissed. REALLY BAD. I was down 800 credits when I finally got the card

@Starryk

Either they increased the odds or I am just lucky.. can't say which one.

Neither - I was one of those that played this game quite soon after its appearance. I played about 10 times (not sure if it was 9, 10 or 11 times) so I spent about 100 credits - but I won 130 credits, and got the new special event card. If I had not had a full collection I would also have won another card as well. From what I have seen reported here the odds of winning do not seem far off 50-50 (though I doubt its quite that good) which is consistant with some having quite long losing streaks and others being lucky enough to get what they want quite quickly.

If anyone is interested

http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41540/1?post=612368

The new cosplay tag in this beta appears to work in fullscreen scenes.

Not sure exactly how much use it is for scene creators but I'll leave that to your imagination😊

@Starryk

Exactly the way that I feel.
I will just be using up my current credit balance and not purchasing anymore.

So I tried the game and it gave a crazy winning series for me. Thanks !

@gatroll - moderators here have proven many times they act in an unprofessional manner throughout the years, and although there has been some improvement as of late (at least IMO) it's still a ***** to read their comments sometimes.

I don't think anything can be done about that at this point, so it's best not to engage in any kind of conversation about that, as it's a waste of everyone's time.

@Alkasyn I can see what you mean. I will take your advice. Thank you.

They can't have the full collection anymore unless they spend tons of credits on a game they can't really win from. That might be the straw that breaks the camels back for these users.

@Starryk Indeed.

No guarantee but i did in the end get the special event card basically for free. from 20 scratches only 5 without 3 S icons and 1 time 50 credits and 1 time 100 credits were in there also with many 10 credits wins and a few cards. In the end my credit counter is the same as before i bought the scratch tickets. Either they increased the odds or i am just lucky.. can't say which one.

@haruchai Phew, thanks, you have me worried for a minute there 👍

Personally i think that those users with a full collection have every right to be angry. (and i am NOT one of these users)
They have supported Totem for over 10 years in many cases and would probably continue to buy everything that Totem releases for the next 10 years.
Obviously these users are very keen on having a full collection, because you can be pretty sure that they haven't watched all the shows in their collection.
So what would be the cost to either make such a game without a new special event card, or give that new special event card to these users who have been the backbone support of the company for free?
Now we have a situation that some of these users so pissed that they are seriously considering to stop buying new shows because they feel ripped off. They can't have the full collection anymore unless they spend tons of credits on a game they can't really win from. That might be the straw that breaks the camels back for these users.

Whatever you do Totem, please do not end this promotion until after tomorrow - Tuesday. I have two people from the Massachusetts Gaming Comission who will be checking out your Scratch Game tomorrow. They thought they had only Scratch Card concession in the State! At minimum, there will likely be some kind of hearing, and maybe I will get a chance to listen to the Totem lawyers up close and personal! Only bad news is I will probably have to spend a few credits to show the Commission the scheme, but a small price!

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.
Just to be clear: this is an ironic analogy, right? Hard to know sometimes.

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@peterbanker, sorry I didn't think at that. Maybe a "preorder" promo could be a better solution, then...
(Obviously, the best solution would be stopping exclusive releases, and making the existing ones buyable. I own one exclusive card, but wouldn't have ANY problem if I saw it available for everyone...)

Wow, Monday evening and not even a form post from Totem?

No wonder it was the same for the last time. I don't think the opinions of someone are interested. 😕

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

Just to be clear: this is an ironic analogy, right? Hard to know sometimes.

@HansSachs

One major problem with your idea.
What about members who already own so many cards that they would be unable to complete the promo and get the exclusive card?

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

LOL! Good (and funny) point, @haruchai!

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

Am I the only one that thinks Amibo or pokemon when it comes to I stripper? Of course there are going to be timed exclusives. Collectors are crazy when it comes to those types of things and of course its the marketing team to come up with new and better ways to get things out there like the games...


let's face it having ten girls on the screen and trying to scratch cards around em for me was kinda of hilarious and i basicly never took my finger off the right mouse button it was like microsoft paint trying to scratch those damn things lol.. I don't get to do a lot of things normal people do so these games make life a little more worth while...BUT THATS JUST ME

Wow, Monday evening and not even a form post from Totem?

Exclusive cards for that event that you can't buy the standard way ?

No money from me, I don't want to support those methods.

You're going in dangerous direction that can ***** you a lot of long-time members, guys, seriously...

I hope that at least those cards will be available normally once this unpleasant event is over.

Let the scratch game begin! May the odds be ever in your favour... :)

I expect that the team is sliding it in under the slightly... morally loose legislation of mobile gaming;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_gambling

Which can be quite lucrative! :)

If it's really impossible to make them buyable, the exclusive cards could at least be no more offered in gambling promos, with totally uncertain win rates - which make so many users upset.
A promo like the "Free packs" one of some weeks ago could be far better in my opinion; my idea is: who completes all the promo gets an exclusive card for free.
That would made happy both company and customers: company would still manage to to get a big amount of earnings on cards people wouldn't have bought otherwise; customers would able to get an exclusive card knowing in advance the credit amount to be spent in order to get it, and so there wouldn't be any complaint.

@shodan084 - I agree, but it seemed to me that you were saying that there was no indication that it was a lottery. To me the wording on the card was quite clear about the nature of the game, though not about the probability of winning.

I'm pretty sure that terms and conditions, chances to win are slightly longer than just "scratch here". :)

If you buy a scratch card there is a whole load of terms printed on the back, chance to win too.

@shodan084

If it is a lottery, you might want to put that in the rules somewhere.

It is there, being implied by the words "Scratch the circles and match 3 S to win". I do think, however, that it the wording could have been more explicit, and I also think that it would have been better still if the odds of getting a S and of each type of prize had been quoted somewhere.

I'm no lawyer either but regarding the legality of these kind of games here, the BIG difference is that once you have freely paid your money to buy credits, you can only spend them here and they CANNOT be exchanged for cash.
A casino on the other hand will exchange any winnings (chips) for cash.

I'm guessing that a qualified lawyer would say that once a person has spent their cash on credits, then it doesn't matter, legally, how they are used within the confines of the only place they CAN be used.

The money has already been 'spent' freely so cannot be reclaimed in court. Nobody is ***** to play the games. Every member has the choice to use their credits how they wish.

Actually it is not that easy. They are operating in a grey area. At the moment there is similar discussion going on in regards to buying lootboxes in videogames. The belgian and dutch authorities already decided that they are illegal gambling and are going after companies selling lootboxes in videogame for real money or special game currency bought with real money. I am no lawyer either, but I am pretty sure therefore some of the games (scratch game included) on IS would be considered illegal gambling in Belgium and the Netherlands.
Like one other user said, Totem is playing with fire. If a gambling authority really tries to pursue their games and take them to court, there is a real possibility this could blow up right into Totems face eventhough their lawyer said they are fine.

My goodness at this point i can't do anything but applaud Totem it's Monday mourning and i'm still reading horror stories about how much people loss with no gain.

I want the Ginebra card as much or even more than some people, but the odds of getting a lot of cards that i already left on the table is greater than getting the one card i want.

So i'll keep my money and credits and wait for the next game or promo and "hope" it works better for my selective card buying.

companies change their methods over time yet even though this collecting hobby gets quite expensive now (i liked my old subscription better) i still see it as agreeable in the fact that i can, at any time, pick up any card i choose to no matter how much time has passed. however, these "special event" cards are honestly nothing more special than any other card beyond their paywalls and die rolls. this is something i do not find agreeable since i am a collector of the cards. i enjoy collecting them in full sets even if i do not watch them for some time. being able to collect a full set of a model feels like a nice achievement and your team even tracks this which is cool. ever collect baseball or comic cards? ever have that ONE card you cannot seem to collect no matter how many packs you buy? remember how you could go to a comic shop and find that ONE card you needed to complete your collection? why not implement this idea here in the form of an auction marketplace for those who got it and would like to sell it for credits? the community would set the price of the card and would offer a new way to obtain these otherwise unobtainable cards.

If it is a lottery, you might want to put that in the rules somewhere. It's only fair to safe gamble. It's better to not gamble at all... can someone tell that to the ***** driver that hit me? :)

@HonourSamurai

I agree with your last statement totally.

@joecool110

I lost nearly 900+ bonus credits on the last one and did not get a single card out of it. Will never play this kind of game again. No matter what they throw at us for a prize. I have been with Totem since the original version of the software. Still extremely dissappointed at exclusivity. I could say more but other members have already voiced my opinoin of this sham.

@gatroll - moderators here have proven many times they act in an unprofessional manner throughout the years, and although there has been some improvement as of late (at least IMO) it's still a ***** to read their comments sometimes.

I don't think anything can be done about that at this point, so it's best not to engage in any kind of conversation about that, as it's a waste of everyone's time.

"not overly dismissive" WTF

Over 1000 credits + bonus credits worth of spins and finally one special card...not the one I wanted. No Ginebra. This game is BS. Wish I had read this thread before playing.

Wow! This is bad. I've spent 300 + bonus and have yet to get a special card win but if I had and did not get the only card labeled as special on the store.... Bait and switch is a term that fits well here. You slip beyond unethical into the criminal.

I don't see any remembering when Totem was literally giving money away when the buy 1000 credits get 250 or whatever the extra amount was and that lasted longer then a weekend.

That is neither literally nor figuratively giving money away. As you further point out, a company's first priority is to make a profit, and that's exactly what Totem did with that promotion. Giving money away? You have to be joking. It was an interesting promotion for sure. Much more interesting than those "special event" cards that appear in the store as a bait yet can't be bought. But it was in no imaginable way giving money away.

A company first priority is to make a profit. The money is not at the 3 diamond level. We already getting a heck of a discount and more than likely we already either have all the cards or have picked all the cards we mostly want. If this was my company I would be going after the lower users and getting them hooked in as well.

And there's nothing to be said against the present game per se. It is indeed interesting for new customers, there's absolutely no doubt about it. The problem is that: a- those "special event" cards are put in as a bait to get big collectors to jump in; and b- both rate and probability are apparently making it very, very costly for those who take the bait.

Yes, they shouldn't take the bait, but they do and they end out with the feeling of getting ripped off. This has nothing to do with "lower users" who actually benefit a lot from this. This has to do with upsetting big customers and not caring a fig about it.

As with most HOBBIES in life you never going to get back what you put in it so you either pay the cost and keep enjoying or finally say enough is enough and get out of it. That's really your only 2 options.

This is not a hobby. This is a product. We're not idle players, we're customers. Where's the enjoyment when you feel like you're being played like a fiddle for money?

And there's a third option (as there is ALWAYS whenever anyone says that there are only 2 options). You can also voice your concerns in the hope that the company actually cares for its customers. That is actually the way the vast majority of service firms have been going for decades now. "Take it or leave it" cannot be considered a fine business model anymore.

About this matter, I agree with @TheEmu.

Let's all face it: exclusive cards, and promos about them, managed to make upset both collectors of all cards and selective pickers, more and more. Not exactly a success... Such an approach can surely be remunerative at the start, but it's getting a huge and still increasing amount of very negative feedbacks that can not be ignored... We all saw what happened this time. I think Team should totally reconsider (and end asap) these exclusive releases, that could, in the end, make them lose customers. In my opinion exclusivity, for lots of reasons, has been a total failure.

Thanks, for the answer.

To be clear and as I had other family business to attend to, no moderator was overly dismissive of comments made on this topic. It was pointed out that no one is ***** to play the games (and I do not), but if you want to obtain a missed and rare card , you are certainly having a carrot dangled in front of your eyes.

Certainly tempting as are many things in life but not *****.

Please keep your comments civil and if you are going to go out of your way to attack a moderator, then you are already in breach of the Forum's T & C's.

If you are not happy a bout a moderator's performance, then raise a complaint. Celine or one of the team will always review the complaint and decide what id any action needs to be taken.

The moderators DO get feedback from the team, but NOT on specific complaints. We get advised in general terms if Totem feels that we are being too heavy handed.

Cheers & Beers

Over 1000 credits + bonus credits worth of spins and finally one special card...not the one I wanted. No Ginebra. This game is BS. Wish I had read this thread before playing.