@TheEmu
That is the best answer I have seen yet on this topic.
Thank you.

That should be Kristina, Niemira, Gloria and Luna Corazon. 😘

Copy/Paste the following line into the search box top right of the girls store
Kristina|Niemira|Gloria|Luna Corazon

Oh thank you very much, you are so kind😘💜

People like me are what the gambling and gaming industry refer to as "whales". We're the ones who spend STUPID amounts of money on stuff that most people wouldn't, and the ones that managers in those other industries tend to cater to.

However, there is one very important difference, We are the ones who have SPENT stupid amounts of money but because we have full or almost full collections, or have all the cards we want, we no longer SPEND the most even if we want to. We are not whales, we are ex-whales (possibly ex Norwegian Blue Whales).

Quite often I see here claims that we are the best customers and Totem should do things to please us because of that - but this simply is not true. We have been good, indeed very good, customers in the past but we currently buy rather little. Each month the Hall Of Fame shows three customers who have purchased between 1000 and 2000 (occasionally more) shows in a single month as opposed to the 30 or 31 that we can manage. Each of those three customers is worth about forty or more customers like me (more if they continue to buy profligately next month). They are the best customers.

Furthermore those three, and I don't know how many other similar "live whale" customers, will have almost certainly been paying more per card than I do. There is little or nothing Totem can do to encourage me to be a better customer, their time and effort is better spent encouraging others.

@nm76

And they need to reconsider their strategyu, because judging by the feedbck I am seeing, they are ***** off long-standing customers with their recent shenanigans... driving away their most loyal customer base. In the long run, it will backfire for them.
This is also true. I don't expect Totem to want to do anything that will cut into their profits, but there is a fine line to be walked between maximizing profits, and drastically ticking off your most loyal and longstanding customers. At some point, trying to maximize profits is going to meet with very diminishing returns, if you push things so far that you start to lose the very people that spend the most money on your product.

People like me are what the gambling and gaming industry refer to as "whales". We're the ones who spend STUPID amounts of money on stuff that most people wouldn't, and the ones that managers in those other industries tend to cater to.

Totem did throw us a nice bone by at least making the game playable for basically no cost (by pricing the scratch-offs at 5 credits -- basically break even with the win rate), but it is still costing us a lot of TIME. It would have been win-win for both Totem and the "whales" (at least in this case) to just give us the OPTION to buy the SECs directly.

Something to bear in mind is that in this case the "whales" are not likely to be the most profitable customers in the future. Because you already own most / all of the cards, your expenditure is going to be on just new releases (at high levels of discount) and potentially the SECs - Totem already have most of your money. Their profits are more likely to lie in new customers who will be building collections and hence will be buying more cards at lower discount rates.

Look at the current game. Let's say (hypothetically) it took you a net 20 plays to win the SEC at 5 credits a play - that's 100 credits used. For a new customer, if they had to buy the same number of plays for the SEC they would have had to spend 20 times 60+ credits - i.e. 1200 credits to win the same card. Granted, they would have acquired 80+ cards but not necessarily cards that they want.

So - Totem's future profits are likely to rely more on the new customers than the old and that will be where they focus.

@iPseudo - amongst the insights I think Totem get from their sales data is that the SEC cards and gambling games have been ways of increasing their profits. Nothing very profound - it should be bleedingly obvious - but it continuously surprises me that some people think that Totem should ignore what they see in the data and follow some suggestion that has no data to support it.

I'm not sure what profound insights you believe Totem are gleaning from their sales data, when it's taken them this many years to figure out that nothing is more profitable than taking someone's money without giving anything in return.

@iPseudo

It matters not one little bit whether we like the practices in question - as I have stated previously I do not like them at all. What matters is what Totem think - if they think, rightly or wrongly, that SECs and gambling are good ideas then they will use them. If they think that offering SEC at a fixed price of 50 credits is of negative value to them (because of its impact on other revenue streams) then they will not make such an offer. They may be wrong in their estimates, but it is only their estimates that that will matter in making decisions, not ours - our estimates of cards values will only affect the result of those decisions. Totem have data on which to base their decisions, we do not have access to that data, hence they are more likely to be right than we are.

''Friends'' don't continually try to pick your pockets.

And a Professors internet needs to go out right about now.

@TheEmu

Yes there are two sides to every business transaction - but we are not talking about individual transactions...

You may not be talking about individual transactions, but many who take issue with Totem's business practices are. Your choice of which perspective to take is an arbitrary one. You also chose not to respond to the remainder of my post.

What I have problems with and criticise are those that claim, with no access to Totem's sales records, that the SECs have a negative effect on Totem's profits or who suggest ways that will decrease those profits

People choose to believe all sorts of things, unsupported by evidence. Even businesspeople are not free of that defect. As evidence, I would point to Totem's own history, the fact that they have not experienced more growth over the past 20+ years, and now resort to inflicting questionable sales tactics on what they no doubt view as a captive customer base.

@iPseudo

Yes there are two sides to every business transaction - but we are not talking about individual transactions but about the aggregate result of several thousand transactions and how introducing thousands of other transactions (e.g. by selling SECs at a fixed price) will affect the take up of the offers leading to the first set. Offering SEC cards at a low price, such as 50 credits, will reduce the number of transactions from the gambling games and hence likely to reduce profits. What matters to Totem is what price should they set for a SEC in order to maximise their overall profit.

@SetFuego

The mere existence of these damn SEC's already pisses off a lot of people.

Strange as it may seem to others, despite my saying so several times, the existance of the SECs also annoys me, as do the gambling games and particularly the combination of the two - but that has no relevance to my recognising that they are an effective business practice.

As long as this damned deal with the SEC's exists, I will also express my opinion on it.

That I have no problem with, and indeed encourage others to express their opinions. What I have problems with and criticise are those that claim, with no access to Totem's sales records, that the SECs have a negative effect on Totem's profits or who suggest ways that will decrease those profits,

Unlike us Totem can see what effect SECs have and how they affect the participation in the various TGIFs. Do those that advocate not using them as prizes, or reduce their attractiveness as prizes, really think that Totem have increased the frequency of SECs because they, Totem, lose money on them relative to that which they would make if they released them as normal cards?

OUt of curiosity, what are the odds of getting a speical card? I have a full collection minus 2 special cards and a bunch of classics. I don't know the exact count, but I have bought give or take a hundred scratch cards in the last few days, am down over that time somewhere between 70 and 100 credits, and I have yet to see a special event card. I have won 25 credits 3 times, and betond that not much. Is this a waste a time, or is there a chance I can actually get those special cards?

Making them available for sale to a small group, such as @nm76 suggests, would have a lesser effect and possibly even be profitble - but might piss off even more people.

The mere existence of these damn SEC's already pisses off a lot of people.

If a company only maximizes its profit by exploiting the gambling addiction of customers or by deliberately attempting to surprise people (remember, the pre-checked boxes), then something is going very wrong in our society. And I'm definitely not going to join the mainstream just because that's so common these days.
As long as this damned deal with the SEC's exists, I will also express my opinion on it.

Of course I will also play here and there if I feel like it, that's what the games of chance are for and maybe get an SEC. But I don't let myself be compelled to bait, I can wait until I can redeem a SEC by joker at some point.

@TheEmu

Totem's point of view - which is the only one that really matters.

This is nonsense. There are two sides to every business transaction.

If, hypothetically, someone were able to pirate the same content as an alternative to being exploited by Totem, would you encourage or discourage them from doing so?

Is unrestrained greed only defensible when it's exercised professionally and not by amateurs?

@boan000

No, 50 credits isn't far too low. That is $5 per card at the best credit price. Just because Totem is preying on people with gambling weaknesses, it does not mean these cards are worth more;

Yes, 50 credits is far too low from Totem's point of view - which is the only one that really matters. We have plenty of evidence that people are willing to pay, albeit reluctantly, much more than that via the gambling games. Why they do so I do not understand, but they do. Providing a way to reliably get the cards for 50 credits would reduce the income from the games.

It does not matter how much you or I think a card is worth, what matters is how much its sale is worth to Totem - not its selling price but its effect on profits. I would expect selling these cards at 50 credits would reduce profits.

I don't like it any more than you - and I wish Totem would change the way these things are handled, but I am realistic about the efficacity of asking a business to abandon a profitable practice.

Making them available for sale to a small group, such as @nm76 suggests, would have a lesser effect and possibly even be profitble - but might piss off even more people.

If you have all the cards, it's almost impossible to run out of credits, but I'm starting to believe those special events cards are extremely rare, I spent over 3 hours (adding the time) and I haven't got an event card also my credits won't diminish nor will increase.

I would point out "as mentioned above" it depends on what you want to use it for.... if only to watch videos (porn) the quest is fine, but if you are into gaming as well the Rift S is a better option. The quest is limited on its games due to power/performance. The Rift S is not because it is hooked to your PC and can handle VR games because its backed by the power of your PC and not limited to the ability of the headset. The con for the Rift is, its not as mobile and you are tethered to your PC. The quest is mobile, but not as powerful. Again, depends on what you want to use it for. I have both and use the Rift more but the Quest is fine as well. VR is fun, its amazing to see how far tech has come...

I didn't I almost fell out of my chair when Li Moon was right there with me!

Since you asked for video, I really can't say. All of my experience of flexable women on IStripper has been in person..... I test them out before I buy there show.

Sorry no video evidence of this......

"true" story!!!!

Makes me sad reading a lot of these posts. People spend hundreds (maybe thousands) of credits to get one card they want but getting a lot of cards they don't want. I don't own a single SEC card and it doesn't ***** a bit. Any girl in an SEC card is also available on many other cards- same assets in different attire. Just walk, or run from these offers until you can aquire these cards in a reasonable and certain process.

And they need to reconsider their strategyu, because judging by the feedbck I am seeing, they are ***** off long-standing customers with their recent shenanigans... driving away their most loyal customer base. In the long run, it will backfire for them.

This is also true. I don't expect Totem to want to do anything that will cut into their profits, but there is a fine line to be walked between maximizing profits, and drastically ticking off your most loyal and longstanding customers. At some point, trying to maximize profits is going to meet with very diminishing returns, if you push things so far that you start to lose the very people that spend the most money on your product.

People like me are what the gambling and gaming industry refer to as "whales". We're the ones who spend STUPID amounts of money on stuff that most people wouldn't, and the ones that managers in those other industries tend to cater to.

Totem did throw us a nice bone by at least making the game playable for basically no cost (by pricing the scratch-offs at 5 credits -- basically break even with the win rate), but it is still costing us a lot of TIME. It would have been win-win for both Totem and the "whales" (at least in this case) to just give us the OPTION to buy the SECs directly.

The Emu Wrote:

Again this would almost certainly reduce Totem's profits. As I have repeatedly said suggestions to any business that amounts to "please reduce your profits" are not likely to be followed. 50 credits is far too low a price - as is essentially proved by the apparent fact that many people do pay far more than that, via the gambling games, with the aim of getting these cards. One measure of how much something is worth is how much others will pay for it.

No, 50 credits isn't far too low. That is $5 per card at the best credit price. Just because Totem is preying on people with gambling weaknesses, it does not mean these cards are worth more; it simply means that Totem is exploiting people because they are seeing increased profit. And they need to reconsider their strategy, because judging by the feedbck I am seeing, they are ***** off long-standing customers with their recent shenanigans... driving away their most loyal customer base. In the long run, it will backfire for them.

Then there are thse customers who defend them regardless of what they do - AHEM

Just to clarify my comment from before, my suggestion was that Totem make SECs purchasable "for people like me," meaning people that have complete collections with all the other cards. I realize that Totem is a business, and they are only going to do what makes them the most money. I totally get that. My point was that, in cases like mine, they are NOT making any money from me, when they could be.

And yes, I'd pay 200 credits for an SEC, to avoid spending FOUR HOURS OF MY LIFE (literally, that's how long it took me to get ONE of the two SECs that I was missing) scratching those stupid cards. I have literally nothing else to spend my credits on (outside of new releases), which is the same case for all the other people that have full collections.

I am not suggesting that they make them purchasable for everyone, and I'm not suggesting that they get rid of the gambling options for people that would rather spend the time than the money. As TheEmu said, suggestions that take away profits will be (justifiably) ignored, so I'm only trying to suggest how they could have made more money from ME (or people like me). Leave the gambling games in for everyone, just give those of us with all the cards an additional option.

Heck, they don't even have to make the SECs directly purchasable. Just give me an option to spend 50 to 100 credits on a guaranteed SEC scratch-off, where it randomly gives me one of the SECs that I don't have. For people with complete collections, they'll spend the credits to get all of them anyway.

@BesiX - in most TGIFs the most recent cards are indeed excluded, usually the last 45 days I think, Unfortunately this never seems to get mentioned in the blurbs announcing the offers.

However, even ignoring this your comment about the statistical impossibilty of only seeing 720p cards is incorrect. It may be an improbable outcome, but not an impossible one.

The way this Mystery Envelopes works is just appaling...
I currently don't own ±100 cards (from 720 to Crystal Clear) and this game keeps giving me the same range of cards: 720p ONLY for the last 10 tries.
Statistically, that's impossible unless it's favouring the oldest 720p cards over the higher quality ones.
Which means it isn't random at all...

Edit: Are recent cards excluded from the cards you can scratch?

@TheEmu thank you for the correction, yes I meant the special event card.

@Ievi - Joker cards were not listed in the description of the possible prizes for this TGIF so it is not surprising you did not win one. maybe you meant Special Event card.

Well 1,225 spent on the mystery envelope and no joker card, better luck next time i guess :(.

i feel like these joker cards should be purchasble, or should be awarded every x amount of months for premium members.

Cool! Thanks for ruining my Eva Elfie collection...

Well, I’m 55 credits and an SEC up after an hour or so of play.

Effectively, I got the SEC and 5 other cards for free.

gg Totem. gg

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@Krell @coach411

what kind of scam is this, I cant post a comment in other parts of the forums because it says im a free user of istripper. This is ridiculous, I was not given my 3000 cards for free.

Are you using a VPN?
Sometimes when I switch servers I get my forum permissions temporarily revoked, so maybe this is what happened to you?

The problem with the forum increased again in the last week, now everything is ok again. After some time, the app will lose authentication, you will only see what you can see on the website without a login and of course you will not be able to post in the deactivated areas. Either it comes back all by itself after a while, or you have to relog (or restart the iStripper app). Really annoying ... 😖

@ward666999

Please view the Event Description here
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/44160/1?post=652458

winning a JOKER is not part of this Event.

@celine
Joker is not offered in Mystery Envelope Scratch Game, right ?
Did not see mention of it in rules, but why not ?
Won SEC, but are Jokers also available ?

@anyone
Has anyone won a Joker in this game ?

@garyaw20 - congratulations. A little expensive in the end - but it backs up one of the other points in my previous post, namely that that people will, and indeed do, pay a lot more than 50 credits for these cards. Maybe they don't like paying so much but, in the main, we do it because we choose to do so.

@TheEmu

Just to update you all on my earlier post, I just played 36 scratch cards and won the special event card and gained 10 credits. Overall probably cost me approximately 125 credits. Good luck to the rest of you!

@nm76 says in favour of making SEC and/or Joker cards purchasable

So Totem could be making WAY MORE MONEY from me

but the point is that Totem would then be making WAY LESS MONEY from others which would more than offset the gains that you envisage.

and @boan000 says

Hell NO!!! 200 credits for a single card?!:? Don't give Totem any ideas, please. 50 credits would be more than enough

Again this would almost certainly reduce Totem's profits. As I have repeatedly said suggestions to any business that amounts to "please reduce your profits" are not likely to be followed. 50 credits is far too low a price - as is essentially proved by the apparent fact that many people do pay far more than that, via the gambling games, with the aim of getting these cards. One measure of how much something is worth is how much others will pay for it.

@garyaw20

In this latest version of the scratch game it also took me a similar, though somewhat lower, number of attempts as yourself - but the overall cost was low. Others in the same position as us (i.e. having full or almost full collections) in this thread have reported similar results or event have ended up with the SEC and more credits than they started with. I have had a similar experience with all of the iStripper scratch card games that I have played - I always got the SEC, once with a small increase in credits, two at very low cost (30 or 40 credits) and once with a slightly higher cost (90 credits if I rember correctly). Overall I find this quite reasonable.

@TheEmu
I also have all available cards purchased. However, I have been able to play the scratch card game for credits and I thought the special card. However I have played approximately 175 scratch cards with no sign of a joker or the specialty card. Not sure anymore if it is even available for me to win. At any rate I am done with this game for now.

and OMG!

bet you never though PSVR could look so good !

So Totem could be making WAY MORE MONEY from me (and I'd be happier spending my time watching naked girls instead of scratch-offs) if they would just let people like us buy the darn SECs directly. Make them 50, 100, even 200 credits, I don't care. Just don't waste my time.

Hell NO!!! 200 credits for a single card?!:? Don't give Totem any ideas, please. 50 credits would be more than enough - even with the biggest credit packs that is $5 for a single card. That's steep!

I finally figured out how to get the Premium version, had to choose a different payment company the default one wasn't the one normally used when buying credits. Once I chose the right ones I am good to go and figured out that I need to re-download all my cards for 4k. It's all good now!

I won't be playing this game because I don't like the odds (especially as as per usual the odds are not published).

I have around 600 cards in my collection and the vast majority are of girls that I personally find attractive. If I don't find a girl attractive or I don't like the outfit, I don't buy the card.

But in this game - for just a 20% discount - I have no visibility of what card from the remaining 3,000+ could be included (and it could so easily be a girl I don't like). Then I have to gamble that the scratch card is a winner (which it easily could not be) and even if it allocated an SEC card I have no control over which card I would be given (and it would only be Eva that I want).

At least with the Goose game you could see the cards that were available and, once you won the Tanya card, the free card became one from your wishlist.

I'll just have to wait for a game with better odds to try to get the Eva card.

Should be illegal to have online games of chance w/o providing odds....in fact I am pretty sure it is. I like the fact that totem is getting some nice income and they have been improving the product a bit over time and aren't in danger of shuttering up but it also makes me uncomfortable that they are taking advantage of vulnerable people, as this is precisely how gambling works. I really dislike the new meta of making money off of people without providing a measurable service...it is a really slippery slope for the future. In the past there was generally a fair trade of product for currency, then companies began the move to a little product as possible for as much currency as possible, and now it is merely no product for as much currency as possible...not good.

Where can I buy the same kind of lingerie used in Liya Silver Indelible Vision show ?


Have a nice day

Oculus Go should be added to this list. Price is down to $150 now. Doesn't technically need a PC and does have one hand controller, a huge step up from smart phone options and not as expensive as the Oculus Quest. Good for those who want a passive experience, like watching video, but don't really care about gaming.

$150 version only has 32 GB of memory, $200 version 64 GB, which isn't much video content. So, instead of using on-board memory, I personally think it works well to use a PC media server, like Plex, that will allow wireless access to video/VR content on PC hard/USB drives via Oculus Go Skybox app. Could alternatively get a portable media server device to access content similarly from portable USB drives, without a PC.

I got PSVR working with both Littlstar and Media player and Littlstar is better and OMG! I felt as if she was right here with me. Amazing. I did buy the payed VR and was reallly cool, I of course got my favorite girl, Li Moon. I would love to see more VR from her and the others, maybe some gamergirl cosplay perhaps? I would love to unlock the unlimited but the premium version I just can't seen to figure out how to pay. Every time I try I get a credential pop up but the username and password I use for iStripper doesn't work. No one so far has answered that issue.

what kind of scam is this, I cant post a comment in other parts of the forums because it says im a free user of istripper. This is ridiculous, I was not given my 3000 cards for free.

@coach411

Are you using a VPN?

Sometimes when I switch servers I get my forum permissions temporarily revoked, so maybe this is what happened to you?

Thanks! I just need to find out how to purchase Premium, since I still can't access the payment. It wants a user name/password but doesnt accept the one i use to log into iStripper.

@ward666999

For you, myself and others with full or nearly full collections repeatly playing this game until we won the SEC was not very expensive but for those that still had plenty of unbought cards in the store would have won fewer cash prizes on the scratch cards. This is because for most players most of the prizes for a scratch card take the form of normal cards but if none are available then they are replaced by 5 credit prizes.

As a result for us chasing a SEC this way is likely to be quite cheap (though as it is a gamble it could be expensive if you are unlucky) while for other users it is likely to be more expensive (though, again, they may be lucky and get off lightly).

Hey y'all, for me it took 228 scratches to get SEC (Eva Elfie/ Cuddling Up),
and then 27 scratches more to climb back to break even; Total 255 .😕
Luck was on a 100 credit roller coaster for the TGIF Mystery Envelope.
I never went more than 50 credits below or above starting balance.
So, I spent nothing, except 3 hours over a 6 hour period.
Am I crazy or is this just a broke rabbit hole I have fallen in ? 😧
Chasing the illusive SEC, appropriately Eva Elfie looks like a white rabbit on this one.😛

Hey y'all, for me it took 228 scratches to get SEC (Eva Elfie/ Cuddling Up),
and then 27 scratches more to climb back to break even; Total 255 .😕
Luck was on a 100 credit roller coaster for the TGIF Mystery Envelope.
I never went more than 50 credits below or above starting balance.
So, I spent nothing, except 3 hours over a 6 hour period.
Am I crazy or is this just a broke rabbit hole I have fallen in ? 😧
Chasing the illusive SEC, appropriately Eva Elfie looks like a white rabbit
on this one.😛