My suggestions:
1. Please, stop hiring the same faces over time. Viola is beautiful young lady, but 25 shows of the same model (and there will be more) is to much. To be honest, there are only two situations where I'm able to accept comebacks. First: when model changed her look. And when I'm saying "change her look" I mean "she enlarged her tits" :) (for example Zafira). Second: when a girl REALLY can dance, for example Karina, even Aleska Diamond who have nice moves and have biggest breasts now :).
2. Try to look for a girls who can dance and who can play with the pole. I saw many girls in strip clubs in my country, who are much better at the pole than girls on this site. Maybe you should check some go-go clubs in Paris? I'm sure that there are plenty of them.

Suggestions...?
They sound more like statements to me...
If a girl is populair and loved by an audiance.. i'd rehire her .. 25 shows... so what?
Don't like it, Don't buy it! .... yep, i said it.. again!
If it was up to me.. I would love to buy 100 cards of my favorite ladies..
I can't get enough of them but you can't ***** them either..

Bigger boobs or a talent in dancing doesn't mean better content in general.
Heck i don't want this stuff to become overtly professional stripclub material.
I might as well go to a stripclub instead...
However respectfully considering the opinion of other people.. i don't mind a few professional dancer cards.
Personally i ***** pole dancing for some unclear reason ..I can't get a feel for such a thing.
Then again.. does it matter in the end.. ?
Opinions remain opinions, especially if they are hard-coded in our brain and beliefs.

I.M.H.O. I think the whole argument has been worded incorrectly insted of "NEW" how about "just mix it up a little better". Kind of like when the cage was getting way over used. As for a suggestion has anyone ever considered when a dancer is doing a swimsuit tease to use the hand rail from a pool ladder as a prop I have seen some models use that effectively. Totem has done a good job in the past. Copy machines, desks, lounge chairs. inflatable furiture, etc. all used to add some variety. Even the finger motion while she's looking between her legs.

91hebasu: It's kinda lame to say "That's your job, not mine !". Instead of offering to provide some help.
That applies to the workplace and here.

We are the ones who have to pay for this product and we don't get any payment for solving problems and offering solutions. This isn't our job. Of course someone can say "If you don't like it, then don't buy it". That's right. That's why I'll not spent any cent for this product anymore. I'm also sick of this "finger something" gesture. OK, in few of the first shows it was nice addition, but this is to repetitive, boring and sometimes ridiculous.

Virt4B: where are their suggestions???

My suggestions:
1. Please, stop hiring the same faces over time. Viola is beautiful young lady, but 25 shows of the same model (and there will be more) is to much. To be honest, there are only two situations where I'm able to accept comebacks. First: when model changed her look. And when I'm saying "change her look" I mean "she enlarged her tits" :) (for example Zafira). Second: when a girl REALLY can dance, for example Karina, even Aleska Diamond who have nice moves and have biggest breasts now :).
2. Try to look for a girls who can dance and who can play with the pole. I saw many girls in strip clubs in my country, who are much better at the pole than girls on this site. Maybe you should check some go-go clubs in Paris? I'm sure that there are plenty of them.

Seriously ???
This isn't a science experiment, paper or project.

If you don't want to be bothered with thinking of any suggestions, don't do it. Coming back over and over to argue about not wanting to think is counter productive.

This is about the core of what the OP is saying......
"The same show, week after week, girl after girl." and "Try something new!!!"

The first one is a load of crap IMO. His judgment is clearly based on the teaser demo clips and he has no idea what the shows are like.

Try something new ? OK.......What ?
Got nothin' ?


If this thread continues to be nothing but a bitching session, I'll be closing it.

@91hebasu yes, but think about it from the other point of view. Lets say I write a scientific paper, I have written down Materials and Metods, Introduction, and all the other stuff I have to, but then comes the blank page titled The Experiment, and what I want is everyone to fill whatever suggestions they have and then I publish such paper in lets say Science magazine. Doesnt this sound ridiculous to you?

May 24th added ~ ElectricAveNew06 - Experiments with Travel. A zigzag journey while
travelling in via z axis, incl. sideways panning of a rendered shader scene to give a more natural "walking into the Scene" effect. The scene is experimental and to be really effective needs largeish height textures to accomodate the panorama.
Derived by combination of @TheEmu's new 'Tunnel A' shader rendering random
2DTextures as framebuffered, quad-based tunnel walls, and yoyo'ed animation of that render's pos: x axis.
The camera follows (targets) the floating stage and model in the second half of their sideways movement cycle. Hope that makes sense.😉

This Zip includes new textures for members' private use as a learning aid and for adapting and sharing freely as non commercial member use within the Virtuagirl Forums.
Notes in code comments. Zipsize 69.6 MB. ~ Enjoy the trip & keep coding !!!

scenes.virtuastripper.net/ELECTRICAveNew006.zip

As far as I know human Sex is the same thing for thousands of years ... so what do people expect when they ***** for "new Material"???

where are their suggestions???

I'm not tired of Vg at all and I don't think it's always the same here over a nd over again. Every girl here is different! Her looks, the outfit, the way she moves. In my opinion each and every girls here on VG is unique and their uniqueness goes straight into their performance. I think it would be a big mistake to impose a certain behavior on a girl here just to imply creativity cause it won't feel natural and spontaneously anymore. In the contrary I think stage directions should be reduced to a minimum so the girl is still able to perform free.
As for that "come here" finger motion...I think there was a time, a while ago, where it was definitely overused, I agree. But using that motion rare and combined with a sexy smile like they do now it can be very seductive that's for sure!

Using framebuffers, as @TheEmu illustrated above, has allowed me to complete first experiments with zigzag travel through a left/right panning rendered shader scene. I think it will be a useful SCN for peeps wanting to experiment further with realistic animation movement of whole backgrounds using shaders and travel through it..

I did not have a wide enough shader rendered sprite running at the time of taking this screencap so the floating stage extends beyond this sprite at times, but that just emphasises the 3D effect you get with this approach.

Once written up the tech comments in the code is done and I've compiled a new bunch of render sprites for the zip, it should be up on server later today, I hope. Blessings.

It doesn't ***** to think of ideas and make suggestions Barley. Totem listens and has used some of them in the past. I'm sure they'll use more in the future as well.

On the ***** side......
It's kinda lame to say "That's your job, not mine !". Instead of offering to provide some help.
That applies to the workplace and here.

@Wyldanimal Really man? Imo this is lame argumentation. We (mostly) dont work in adult entertainment but we work in our daily boring (and not so boring) jobs and we pay for VG shows with our hardly earned money. So, technically, IT is Totem's job to come up with ideas to entertain clients, not vice versa... Im just saying....

blueguarek - 3 hour(s) ago

bonjour
je ne vous comprend pas les gars, vg est un programme de strip tease, essayer chez vous et vous verrez qu'il n'y a pas 150 façons de se mettre nu
et si vous parlez de deskbabe c'est un programme de masturbation et la non plus il n' y a pas 150 façons de le faire

vous voulez des "chose" differente mais vous ne donnez pas d'idée non plus....

translation by google

hello
I do not understand you guys, vg is a striptease program, try at home and you will see that there are not 150 ways to get naked
and if you talk about deskbabe it is a masturbation program and not there 's not 150 ways to do it

you want "something" different but you do not give idea either ....

Spot on blueguarek, thank you .

Yes, while some gestures are being over used.
New suggestions are much better than just saying, Stop doing the same thing over and over..

Instead of the Come Hither Finger, why don't you ........

Then offer your Suggestion.

Aletta Ocean sexy legs

Tbh, probably the bigger issue here is that some grils do it kinda naturally (at least it feels like it) and some do it by the script and you can actually see that but then again I dont care much, pretty girls in sexy outfits is the most important thing for me.

This can swing either way..
It basically comes down to personal preferences if you ask me..
I might even go as far as saying it is totally subjective..
Then again..

Personally I love the come hither gesture cause it comes across as more personal rather than some girl looking offscreen for guidance on what to do next or being destracted by something.
I'd vote for more interactive signs and gestures like that.. but.. I'm not picky about it.

Also small spoiler alert...
Most cards that feature girls doing those gestures are limited to the demo clips not the full shows.

As for variations.. sure there are 150 ways to stip or get off.. probably even more if you're very creative..
but I agree to the fact people ***** or comment on something like this but refuse or don't know how to bring alternatives to the table.

bonjour
je ne vous comprend pas les gars, vg est un programme de strip tease, essayer chez vous et vous verrez qu'il n'y a pas 150 façons de se mettre nu
et si vous parlez de deskbabe c'est un programme de masturbation et la non plus il n' y a pas 150 façons de le faire

vous voulez des "chose" differente mais vous ne donnez pas d'idée non plus....

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hello
I do not understand you guys, vg is a striptease program, try at home and you will see that there are not 150 ways to get naked
and if you talk about deskbabe it is a masturbation program and not there 's not 150 ways to do it

you want "something" different but you do not give idea either ....

Technically I have to agree with OP, not that it bothers me much but it is kinda repetative...

If I had a wish list, this is what it would be:..
Allow users to keep building their own name-trees
but provide a new fullscreen keyboard key which switches to Paris Penthouse Club Hub Scene, or allow option for scene plays to revert to PPC Menu Hub Scene upon completion.
Rewrite paris penthouse club scene with uniforms for imouse which allow a mouse click on doors in the scene Target new Channel1 "imouse" to link SCN Doors (or a variation on sustained Clipnamesprites ?) to those name-trees we have all made. Lets Keep the experience immersive..woohoo.

Many Tks yidincrete/Emu for use of cap "yidincrete = TheEmu 4.scn http://www.theemusnest.eu/scenes/TheEmu+Yidincrete/TheEmu+Yidincrete = Club Carousel.scn"

Anyone else that doesn't care for the "come here" finger motion, feel free to add your voice here.

We had this discussion 2-3 months ago. At first I really liked this gesture. More recently it seems to be a bit over used. Maybe Totem should teach the models ASL (American Sign Language)? 😉

We get get new material with each new girl.

Seeing that you only have six 3k cards. None of them being recent releases. I'm guessing you're judging based only on the little teaser demo clips (Which don't give you any real idea of what the show is like).

If you're refusing to buy any cards because you don't like the little finger motion, that's your loss.

Anyway, moving on. Anyone else that doesn't care for the "come here" finger motion, feel free to add your voice here.

Ok,

I won't use profanity. But, this product is over used and over done. Let's get new material!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the same "old" thing.! It's tiring!

OK paulcarter,

The use of the "F" word in that manner will not be tolerated.

Assuming that everyone wants whatever you want is a mistake.

You will be respectful with sharing your opinion or be blocked from posting.

The REPETITIVE finger movement (come here), is so fucking over done, I can't stand watching anymore. Get new material, or go home. The same show, week after week, girl after girl. WTF!!!!!

Try something new!!! We don't want to see the same thing week after week, girl after girl! You are losing your client base.

Been here since 2008. This product SUCKS now! Same thing week after week!

We are going up, so that the latter cards are made of anal opponents. So that the others can serve, now the DB cards should be issued where there is a lot of anal scene, do not you? And if this is done, come the duo have long been missing cards (perhaps with some card also Trio). If this is realized, everybody wins.

The members have purchased the cards:
The anal opponents will purchase these cards when don't anal scenes, the anal lovers will purchase these cards when are anal scenes, the solo card lovers will purchase solo cards, the lesbian card lovers will purchase duo and if coming trio cards and everybody is happy.

If y'all do return back I would love to see more anna polina with some more colorful outfits . Seemed like MD cards all had a office or maid theme which is ok for 1 or 2 cards but not all of them.

I'm looking forwards to the sensational and sexy and very desirable ... The Red Fox!!! *drools* \m/

You too Number6...lol.. it a great playground for experiments now thats for sure.

Yes @Theemu, thats exactly what I was trying to say. & as usual, you put it so eloquently. The framebuffer with an id 'tunnel' now allows the random sprite to be rendered as well as manipulated by animate clauses, just as though it was a normal sprite being declared in a SCN file with animate clauses.

If the VGPlayer really does have a 'mastershader' somehow built into it with our SCN parameters acting like uniform calls to it, then introducing other shaders to it via framebuffers and quad nesting really opens up the scope for creativity here. I previously ran co-incident shaders together on the one SCN, in say FractalGarden015 I ran 2 Shaders: Alexander Alekseev's SeaScape.fsh on the bottom half and Chapter9's Simple Wobble.fsh on the top half. It would have been amazing by cascaded quads and opacity animations say, to have been able to blend (time slice) the effects over 2 channels...thats why I asked about Totem opening up more Channels like WebGL has 4 or so incl. mouse, sound, etc.. we have just the one at this time.

I like experiments in direction (camera target ?) animation also. like in Reinder Nijhoff's Venice and Wolfenstein where he pans over a wide scene and changes direction of apparent movement according to (random or feature oriented) changes of camera targeting. That lends itself to lots of possibilities with our scenes like the recent catwalk approach illusions with 'distance reducing' models that yidincrete did..could be made zig-zag etc.
Just thinking out aloud here..this advance in "Tunnel A" today alone is totally amazing. Thank you so much @Emu@Wyld et @Lezardo ~ our rockstar coders !!.

@TheEmu

You are a star!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure about @EverthangForever but this is exactly what I was looking for.

Just had a very quick play and I have some of my more psychedelic backgrounds rotating and changing colour just like in static, non-shader scenes.

I am going to play a bit more later.

I may be gone for some considerable time. :-))))

@Cartref

Your statement above is true. But if I dislike anal, I can always disable the clips that offend. If I like anal, there is no option to activate clips that do not exist...

@EverthangForever. Is this the sort of thing you were thinking of. Its a small modification of my

TheEmu = Experiments with Tunnels A - A1 - 001 - Active - shape=(0.0,1.0).scn

which is now called

TheEmu = Experiments with Tunnels A - X1 - 001 - Active - shape=(0.0,1.0).scn

I have not uploaded it to the nest yet, but you can copy it from here.

The differences are

1) The generation of the tunnel is now done into a frame buffer
2) The sprite that used to generate the tunnel now uses the new framebuffer as its source

This allows an animate clause to be used in the sprite to rotae the tunnel.


////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// License: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//
// Description to be provided
//
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

text : TheEmu = Experiments with Tunnels - 00 - Description.txt

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

texture {
id: TunnelWalls
source: Images
}

clip {
id: Clip
deny: table, top
}

framebuffer { // Generation of tunnel walls now done into a famebuffer
id: Tunnel
source: TunnelWalls
pos: 0, 0
hotspot: 0.5, 0.5
size: 1800, 1800
uniform: shape, vec2, 0.0, 1.0
uniform: speed, float, 0.1
uniform: fade, float, 2.0
uniform: zScale, float, 2.0
uniform: tileScheme, int, 1
shader: fragment, Shaders/TheEmu - Tunnel A.fsh

}

camera {

type: 3D
angle: 45
pos: 0, 0, 1080
target: 0, 0, 0

sprite { // Tunnel walls now generated in a fame buffer, so we can rotate them
source: Tunnel
rot: 0, 0, 0
animate: 30, loopforward, linear, rot, 0, 0, 360
}

clipSprite {
pos: 400, 430
standingHeight: 500
source: Clip
}

clipNameSprite {
pos: 400, 430
scale: 0.5
hotspot: 0.5, 1
source: Clip
}

}

It would be nice to see one or two trio cards. Havent seen them since those cards since the original VG.

So there is no special card design for the vegas cards :(

It could be a lack of sales that is already deciding what is included or not too... if it's available and you like it, why would you not purchase it? :)

UncleHGL,

how would you feel Uncle, if those who aren't rapped in anal, decided to vote their displeasure by refusing to buy any card that had anal?

It works both ways you know.

@EverthangForever. What I would really like is to be able to use an animate clause for a uniform declared in the same scene node. My suspicion is that the node properties such as pos, rot, color and opacity are themselves associated with uniforms for a default shader and that it ought to be at least conceptualy simple to extend animate to work on user defined uniforms.

i'm ready bring them on baby .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @crasherdnb u r the MAN .😎

yes but when the shader uses a 2D channel0 to render and we nest the 2D texture selected in a framebuffered quad declaration, then it appears we don't need the 2D texture to be at the same position as the quad. It will paint the texture wherever its texture's pos: is defined including z axis for 3D camera.. @Theemu was trying to use z axis settings on the shader butterflys but all it did was moved the supporting quad around not necessarily the butterflys. So he ended up making them move & resize by generating that within the butterfly shader itself. In so doing, the shader product ~ butterflies ~ did respond also to SCN animate: parameter in the normal SCN. whereas the walls did not. I keep thinking, if we had an extra channel, say channel1 available for X, Y & Z (depth) render manipulations and Channel2 for sound reactives, we could make heaps more use of anims & uniforms at SCN level. Move the inkjet printer effect inwards and more variable , so to speak.;-)

has anyone yet found a way of animating background shader to rotate or pan sideways via either animate: or a uniform: call to 'Tunnel A' in the SCN code ?

Rotation of the shader, It can only be done in the shader code.

The fragment is the shape.
So for instance whe use a Quad or a rectangle as the shape.
The shaded then Paints onto that Shape..
It doesnt Matter if the Shape is straight, or Rotated..
The Painting takes place exactly the Same all the time Based on the code in the shader..
It Starts at the top left of the screen
Paints from left to right, then advances down to the next line
and paints that line.

Where ever the frgament is, it recieves color from the shader.

So if the fragment is rotated on an Angle like in your Picture.
then only that part of the fragment gets color applied by the shader.

Think of it like an Injet Printer..
If you print an Image on a full sheet of paper you get the FUll Image.
If you cut the paper into a Diamond shape
then Only that Portion of the Paper gets Ink.
Doesn't matter how you rotate the blank paper, the Ink is still printed from left to right


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Funny

I`m in the same show you are in @stuka. I also would like to know to. Before my laptop goes out.

bon anniversaire à Andréa Mallory allias Ennie
qui fête ses 30 ans aujourd'hui

I personally, like my sex in real life & porn to be as dirty as possible.....& it doesn't get much dirtier than Anal, so I too miss Anal in the newer DB cards. Most DB models that do Anal in their cards use toys that are the size of my finger, but in their porn jobs take ***** male units up their backsides. Still, I think DB is doing the right thing, by allowing the models to choose what is included in their performances. Maybe it's time I started boycotting all DB cards that do not include Anal & let my credits do my talking?

Brace yourselves, Vegas cards are coming. Alexis Adams' VG debut.

Bit anal retentive all these threads...😎

has anyone yet found a way of animating background shader to rotate or pan sideways via either animate: or a uniform: call to 'Tunnel A' in the SCN code ? All I'm getting is animate on non shader sprites/quads, but the shader rendered 2D Channel image just stays put, even when you animate to rotate the camera z = 360, everything rotates except the tunnel walls. I seem to be able to rotate the butterflies ok, however thats because they are integrally constructed within the shader, just I cannot animate separately the TunnelA shader's 2DTextures on top of what the shader already does 😢.

Edit: just realised image above looks like Sabrisse is looking ready to bail out..I don't blame her 😭 yikes !

Well lets give the Vegas girls a chance to fill the void, perhaps those girls will be found to be more willing to do it...

I have 50 credits on my account and have not purchased any cards because of this. The cards that do have the anal play are with girls i do not find attractive. I hope they find better looking girls that do anal.

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Agree it is disappointing....and the primary reason my card purchases have slowed to a trickle.

More from Eileen. Great, lookin' forward to it! 😊