Here is Epoch reply to your issue with debit cards :

Hello Celine, We have investigated and it appears that certain prepaid card issuers are now enforcing their policy of not allowing their cards to be used internationally. Regards,AlanEpoch Support

For me personally, I use either a separate credit card with a small limit on it, so that my exposure is limited.

The alternative for me is to used PayPal and then I can nominate to PayPal which card is to be used behind the scenes and the supplier is none the wiser.

I have no issue with how the transaction displays upon my Visa ststements, but perhaps that is the real iss for some?

Wyldanimal,

you need to set up direct transfers from your Bank Account.

I appreciate your suggestions, but the issue is I am not willing to use my Bank Account, either via direct transfers or via a credit card linked to my account. I have used prepaid gift cards for years, now they don't work because the laws have changed and the billers are all outside the US. Paypal could be an option for me but it seems to work for some and not for others.

I've always paid either with my PayPal debit card or with PayPal directly. So this has never been an issue for me.

Here is another Option from American Express.
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/content/prepaid/reloadable-cards.html

I read the fine print and it is Good anywhere American Express cards are accepted World Wide.

American Express Serve© Accounts available to U.S. residents who are over 18 years old only (or 19 in certain states) and for use virtually anywhere American Express© Cards are accepted worldwide, subject to verification. Fees apply. Other eligibility and restrictions apply. See the American Express Serve Consumer User Agreement for details.

PeteVG - 46 min ago
I have also used pre-paid cards and am having the same problem, apparently it's related to a US restriction.
...
Wyldanimal made a good suggestion but I would have the same problem purchasing that card as I have purchasing credits directly.

That's the reason I posted that you need to set up direct transfers from your Bank Account.
No International issues with that.
I had no problems setting this up, and Only the Funds Put on the Virtual Visa are exposed to the On-line transaction.

Your Virtual Card is limited to just the funds already on the card.
So if you tried to make a Purchase that exceeded the funds, it would be declined.

They Won't tap into your account to try and cover a purchase that exceeds the funds placed in the Virtual Visa.

That makes it a Win Win for me.

The Only exposure to a possible on-line billing scam is the Funds I have in the card.
And if the Virtual card number is compromised, it's discarded, and a new number gets issued.

The Only Issue I can see some members having, is the Direct Bank account transfers.
But heck, I have to do the same to use Paypal, and Google.

So I went to my Local Credit Union.
open an Account. ( Have to Keep $5.00 in it )
No Fee's no Monthly charges.

I use this Account for all my On-line purchase.
I move money into it electronically.
then move the money from there to my Virtual Visa card.

That Gives me Almost Zero Exposure.

Anyone Making On-line Purchases would be Smart to look into doing something Similar.

I have also used pre-paid cards and am having the same problem, apparently it's related to a US restriction.

Celine, unless Epoch has a subsidiary in the US, they can't fix this problem. It seems that you have some long time members ready to walk away over this. The best solution I see is for VG to work with a billing company in the US, but I am open to other idea's. Wyldanimal made a good suggestion but I would have the same problem purchasing that card as I have purchasing credits directly.

(Below is a copy of the post I just made in the OTHER "debit card problems" thread)

This may be getting ***** for some members, so....

1. PRE-PAID debit cards appear to be the problem, even if they are backed by a major credit card company like VISA or Mastercard. Those are subject to be used for "money laundering". U.S. purchased PRE-PAID debit cards have been monitored and rejected for overseas purchases for quite a while now, depending on where you may be trying to use them for Internet purchases.

2. Debit cards associated with an existing BANK ACCOUNT don't seem to be a problem for VGHD token purchases. I've made token purchases with my VISA debit card associated with my bank checking account with no issues. Just made another $50 token purchase today with it (I used the CCBILL EU selection in the VG GUI). Although it may be up to an individual bank's policies about their allowed debit card transactions, as my bank does require a "pre-approval confirmation" from me for some overseas purchases (like a file hosting site) before they will process it (may require a phone call to my bank first). But I have had no issues with VG token purchases with my bank's VISA debit card.

odd , never had a problem with my visa . . .

@Hey Hombre
when I was playing around with the Ghosts scene using NeighbourLessThan and Devil Inside frag shaders with framebuffer variations of @Lezardo's antiAlias, Bright, Blur and Screen shaders, I swear the WET effect WAS there for a moment ~before I irretrievably lost it. Gasp ;->>. Perhaps you can recover a combination of shader's transparencies to work as wet. Problem with applying static texture overlays is, it appears to be a real hassel (impossible maybe) to totally vanish the square texture's edges when they overlay a moving shader background. Tried over/underlays doing masks for extended leg reflections ~and no real seamless joy there if a shader is running underneath... If you can successfully get the ghost shaders &/or Lezardo's shaders to work as diaphanous overlays just enough for the model looking wet, then thats gonna be progress. As you say, you might need to run a combination of several superimposed clipsprites each with its own transparency and shader allocated.
Definitely worth a try :-)

Indeed, I have also tried both program and website on each biller, and was declined on two prepaid Visas. Both have adequate funds, and one of which was used previously to buy credits with no issues.

@MrC: I've also been a little negligent of my scene making duties :( I'm studying up on the latest stuff and still have my eye on what's going on around here ;) Another nice addition to the portfolio for the rest of us to enjoy :D

@ET: Hmmm... In the Anna Tatu and Jessie Jazz re-mastering thread, you mentioned a 'wetskin' filter? Let me see what I can do with that. I don't mean a software filter as such but I'm thinking along the lines of a transparent image/texture. I can do fog or mist easily enough to overlay the clips. Maybe I can find something that gives the impression of a 'wetlook' to our babes...

Edit: This is probably going to take a shader to look realistic and may have to be placed to run with each clip individually. Not giving up yet tho ...

@mrcrowley06
Like your Pole Stage SCN on Share. Really nice effect with the dipole ladies arching in the background... pls do more scenes.

Thank you for going ahead and changing your avatar LeBigBen. I appreciate that.

OK.......
Moving on
Back on topic
Please

Very very good evening (or morning - that's optional) for everyone!
Seems like it's been a while since I was here for the last time! Lot of a new good stuff))))
I just made one more scene called "Pole Stage". Hope you will like it ;)
It's based on Shades by Wyld Animal and Fracedelic Scenes by No.6

http://scenes.virtuastripper.net/+MrCrowley - Pole stage.zip

readyforanything - neither the site nor the software works with my debit card.

Did you use a debit card and, if so ... with which biller?

I've always used epoch, and it's a no-go.

P.S. The other billers aren't allowing a debit card transaction, either.​​​​

@szalka thanks for the info I don`t have one of her cards. and didn`t know that. thanks for sharing. the other tattoos.

I did so I came to the site not the software. and buy my credits. Try that way.

bon anniversaire à Anaïs Hills
qui fête ses 27 ans aujourd'hui

Sorry for my avartar, I knew I had to change it, but I forgot to do it.

The site still don't work form me... I'll ask google one more time.

EDIT: The site correctly work with IE so I'll deal with it.
EDIT 2: Thx Ironman79 http://www.deskbabes.eu.com/userProfile.php?usLogin=v12839491 !!! It worked !

Try disableing your AdBlock and refresh (for that page only) it worked for me

I'm not having any issues accessing the site on my end. The "Preview" page doesn't seem to be up to date for me though.

By the way..........
You need to change that avatar LeBigben. Nudity is not allowed there. Even cartoon/animation nudity.

Bonjours je voudrais savoir si c'est normal que je n'arrive plus à accéder à harshie.net correctement. Le site semble vide (page blanche quand je clic sur "Virtual Girl")

Hello I want to know if this is normal that I can no longer acces harshie.net correctly. The website seems empty (blank page when I click on "Virtual Girl")

same here some times. but today i can only buy one show. merry pie or lucy li. sorry lucy 😭 got to get that merry pie 😛.

Bonsoir murdoch http://www.virtuagirl.eu/userProfile.php?usLogin=v9219859
Le soucis avec les disques durs externes est qu'il faut absolument placer une lettre de disque fixe pour le disque qui contient la collection, sinon si on place une clef USB, ou tout autre matériel qui a besoin d'une lettre, avant le démarrage de l'ordinateur, le programme VG ne retrouve pas la collection et va pointer dans les champs (en passant par la porte au fond à 100 métres à droite des arbres, ceux du fond, c'est important), parce que la lettre du disque dur externe a changée ;-)

Ont peut passer par le programme (Gestion de l'ordinateur) gestion des disques, clic droit sur le disque dur externe et (modifier la lettre de lecteur et les chemins d'acces)

Indeed......
On the case
❤️

Celine, thank you.

If anybody can get things worked out, it's you.

Thanks.​​

let me check with Epoch.
Will keep you posted !
Cheers
Celine

bon anniversaire à Kristy Lust
qui fête ses 32 ans aujourd'hui

I truly love the VG/DB product!

It's almost a part of me - something to look forward to, every week.

Sigh.​

😢

Wyld, thank you so much for the excellent information.

My only problem is that VG states that a debit card with MasterCard/Visa​​ will be honored, as it has been in the past, and now it is not.

So here I am, with a $50.00 MasterCard debit card, which is absolutely worthless.

And I so love the VG product.

😐​​

The restriction on Paid Debit GIFT Cards in the USA only.
has to do with Money Laundering and Racketeering.
You can Only purchase them with US funds
and the money you place on the GiFT Debit card is only good when spent in the US.

There are International Prepaid Cards, but you loose Anonymity, because you have to register the card under your name.

Virtual Cards:
I've been Using this company
EntroPay
www.entropay.com http://www.entropay.com/

They supply you with a Virtual Visa card.

The Attached Photo is what you Get..
I masked out my numbers...
A visa Card number, and Expiration Data, and a CVV code
that works just like a Visa Card for on-line purchases.

Had to Set up with my Bank account to transfer Funds to the Virtual Card
That took a couple days.
They make a deposit, than withdraw the same amount as the deposit, after you confirm the value.
But only the Funds place into the Virtual Card Account are at risk.

the fee is 3.95%
so if you put $100 on the card it costs you $3.95

That's less than the fee for a Gift card.

Haven't had any issues to date.
Might be an Option for others here.

LRDark, thanks again for the response. I was wondering what the heck was goin' on with the debit cards.

I was thinkin' that the crap was only targeting me.​

LRDark, well, I guess I can buy that remastered Dreamboat Annie [Heart] CD, and maybe a Doobie Brothers CD, with the $50 debit card that I was gonna spend here!

😛

I agree, end of the line unless I can find another option or Totem has another way of payment that isn't directly sending cash; I'm not paying through my bank, that's for sure. 😢
I think there may be Visa or Mastercard travel cards that work internationally, but I don't really know much about them.

LRDark and donttake, thanks a bunch for the info - what to do?

LRDark, same for me. My debit cards have ALWAYS said "Valid Only In The United States," but I've never had a problem until this last week.

What are you and donttake gonna do?

I'm not sure what I'm going to do - but it may be the end of the line for me, unless Totem figures something out.

Thanks to you both for the input.​​​​​

same problem here. apparently since march they stopped allowing international charges on prepaid cards.
still looking for a solution. any help would be great.😊

Yes, I've just encountered this issue the other day as well. All previous purchases were through Visa prepaid gift cards so that there was no paper trail. They do state on the card that they may not be used outside of the US, however that's never been a problem before. If anyone has found any solutions I would be very much appreciative of the information.

Nice !!! Thx for the information ssjain

Are any of you having a problem using a debit card?

I have almost 2000 cards, and all of my credit purchases have been through a MasterCard/Visa debit card.

Well, last week I purchased a MasterCard debit card in order to buy 50 credits - but I can't complete any transaction, either through epoch or any other biller.

Are any of you having the same problem?

Thanks so much for any help or comment.​​

Lilly Rose, delicate and smooth ❤️

J'ai déjè stocké sur un disque dur externe et cela me causait beaucoup de problémes. Le logiciel de Desk Babes semblait se méprendre sur l'emplacement original même après avoir éradiqué toute installation antérieurre du logiciel. J'avais beau tout faire pour dissiper toute ***** je me retrouvais avec des collections scindées avec deux collections de modèles. Le logiciel finissait toujours par retomber dans le marasme des collections multiples. Le temps pour remettre tout en ordre était très frustrant. Je travaille et m'accabler de défis technos par-dessus le marché ne me tente guère. Pour moi. le plus simple est d'octroyer un 800 gigs sur le disque dur intégré de mon ordi et de télécharger au besoin.

For the DB duo fans: per Ethanangus (In VG casting thread),

There is no more duo shootings scheduled to come, appart from Lucy Li and Izzy released this month.

Thanks for the update 91hebasu. Let's hope the team in the US get all set up and running smoothly as soon as possible. Looking forward to some new variety of beautiful ladies to come dance for us =)

Out of curiosity, I looked up the bios for the models in the initial test run for the Vegas studio. Which is just a few girls, as we all know.

Yes, each one of the current Vegas studio girls is listed as caucasian. However, according to the Agency info I found, each one seems to have come from a different agency. I can't even begin to imagine how many modeling agencies there are in the Los Angeles and Las Vegas areas and how many girls are at each of those agencies. They will have access to girls of all makes and models and, as Ethan said, they have every intention to take advantage of the variety that is available in the area. When they have the Vegas studio the way they want it and get it running full throttle we should see alot of different girls.
😉

No offense to Ethan but it seemed more like he doesn't know about the US photographers by his statement. So far the few girls coming from US have all been white girls. 2 of them I've bought cards from, so I'm not *****. But variety is still lacking. Just saying.

Posted by Team member ethanangus yesterday..........

Olivier and I, are directors shooting in Paris, with eastern europe girls mainly, and the beautiful girls from here have (mainly) all something in common, I must admit.
Models shot in Vegas won't appear on this forum, as the selection is done elsewhere, but its purpose is to propose other type of girls; latinas, japanese, typical american gals... So don't worry, at the end, there IS some variety in the cards :)

Going by that........
No, production has not been halted completely. Last I heard, some changes were being made to improve quality.

Also, casting will not be here in the forum. At least not for now.

I would like to know this too. After all the trouble of setting up a new studio, it would suck if this is another failed attempt in the US. Yet there are no upcoming cards from there, which causes me to think they have halted production completely.

I have a 1TB external hard disk to collect my cards. However, not all cards are downloaded, only the best ones... Sometimes I download some old cards, sometimes I delete some of them...

If you have 3 computers then why not ? :D i have only one so i voted for agains :/