@B3AN

when I said refund the credits back, I'm referring only to the difference, the Level up would make.
gold is 20%,
you have 90 cards,
10 to level up to Platinum.. 10 x 25 -20% = 200
21 cards then remain At Platinum Level of 30% = 21 x 25 - 30% = 367.50
200 + 367.50 = 567.50 if you buy each card one by one for the month.

If you buy the pre-Order with gold level it would be 31 x 25 - 20% = 620

then if you Subtract using the level up discount. 620 - 567.50 = 52.50

you would write to customer service and ask for 52.50 to be refunded..

I see you already purchased it, and then Added 2 cards after..
So you really started with 88 cards...

So You'd have to recalculate the difference starting with 88 cards..

12 x 25 -20% = 240
19 x 25 - 30% = 332.50
240 + 332.50 = 572.50
620 - 572.50 = 47.50

So that is what you would write and ask for
47.50, based on you having 88 cards at the time you purchased the pre-order.

the worse they can say is no...

It's sad that I'll be missing out on one of my all time favourite girls... because of bulk pricing!

Stupid, stupid, stupid...

Carly Rae; Large and light...

Izzy; Areolic!

"Should you fall into one of these categories where the 31 cards would put you above the next Level.
You Might want to write to customer service after the purchase and request the Credits be returned to you."

i fall under this... but i doubt they going to give my credits back, judging on the feedback i see from other users here and there

well. its my first special event card, im not a collector im more of a pick what i like to my taste kinda person... so lets hope next months goods are all good to my taste :)

#### special event cards.

#### spending 500 credits to get one card.

#### you for spitting in the face of long-time members.

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Please read the T&C

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I do love the Red Fox but that is just too much bad for such a high price tag. I would glady pay for the Fox herself, I just do not ever see that happening.

I think @Totem should keep doing whatever they want to do. I love what they've given/gave/give us overall.
As a collector, I only take advantage of the extra credit bonus. I'll even buy credits when I don't need them, if I see that bonus credits are being added! I simply ignore everything else.
Have a fun and safe weekend all!
😎✌

@gkar45 , That might not be a nipple clamp and it might send the electrical charges to the boy parts.. oh, I am just evil.

I better get back to work before somebody gets *****.

@genmills

Okay, I guess that I'm a follower, but I'm not sure about the spineless part.

To qualify the follower part of the statement, the only place I have ever seen these girls is here on iStripper. I am not pervy enough to stalk Twitter or Instagram or whatever other sites they may be on.

Now to address the spineless part, since I have only ever seen The Red Fox here, I can say that she has appeared to have put on a few extra pounds since her last visit to the Totem studios.

I will add that those extra pounds look good on her

@giar45, here's the link,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-MULTI-POSITION-PORTABLE-COUPLES-SEX-MACHINE-LIGHTWEIGHT-MULTISPEED/252825943058

Well, as it seems more and more special event cards are coming up (increaseing the amount total there are of them) maybe oneday Totem will have a reward system for special event cards.... say, once you reach platinum status, one of the perks when you hit platinum is you get to pick ONE special event card upon reaching platium, then again at double and triple... so you can (in time and as your collection grows) get at least 3 of them as you level your status. I think making it for bronze and silver are too low IMO. At least this would be something that rewarded spenders/long time loyal memebers if they happen to miss it and cant get luck to aquire them.... What would be the *****, esp if more and more are introduced to the pool of special cards...

@genmills

we are all entitled to our Opinions, as long as they are expressed in a civil way.
And you know what they say about Opinions...

opinions are like .......... we all have one...

I'm not a big Fan of this Promotion... it does seem to exclude the Non-Collectors.
But as a Collector, I'd get every card anyway..
So for me It is ok....

But I understand the sentiments from the non Collectors.

This does not appeal to them...

So if it's not right for you, then pass on it,
and I'm sure there will be some TGIF game of chance opportunity to win it at a later date...

Please keep the VR coming... really enjoying the shows.... cant wait to see more girls in the future in these settings. Can you comment on my question asked about the Veronica Leal VR shows ending? It seemed to end in mid show... is this as intended or an error?

Special Event cards are offensive. Especially to loyal customers who have been collecting for years. If they were available for a higher ticket price (like the cosplay cards), it would be fine, but making certain cards unavailable unless you're a sucker and spend x amount of $$$ on cards that you don't want is just ridiculous!

Now cue the Totem drones, moderators, and spineless followers to tell us paying customers that we're all wrong and stupid for having an opinion, and that Totem is always right. I'm tired of hearing mindless robots tell me that Totem will just go bankrupt if they don't rip us off. This company makes millions in profits, then poormouths it like their ***** financially. What a joke! Stop greasing us customers to cover the costs of your failed projects (iDancer & VR Paradise) and your inflated salaries.

i don't have a problem with no discount i buy all the cards so i get a bones

Red Fox looks ultra-sexy and I buy all the cards anyway as I am a completist. I am sorely tempted to buy but the deal needs to be a bit more economically enticing for me to lay out all my money this early.

Sorry, no sale here.

If there had been no exclusive cards then there would currently be six cards less than there are. They are indeed extra cards even though they are in no material way any different to those being sold by the normal route.

Just to be clear while I'm disappointed that there is yet another card Totem has chosen to exclude me from I will not lose any sleep over it but I find it hard believe you even believe yourself most of the time.

Of course if they didn't make the exclusive cards there would be 6 less cards and if they didn't make the 4000+ other cards I would be about $2500 the richer but that is irrelevant. How many cards are produced has nothing to do them being extra. They did not find them under table or in a draw they are produced just the same. Back when I started there were at most 5 new cards a week; does the extra 2 cards produced now special, extra, or exclusive?

Nor is the price relevant; I spend 5 times more on coffee every day then I would ever spend on porn. Everything has a value and it's not just money. I'm not buying stuff I don't want; the cost of the ***** credits would annoy me but if I did waste the credits, cash, the time, or anything else I value it would be my self respect that paid the real price.

Stop fixating on the cost and quantity of cards produced and think about your dignity. If you buy everything anyways then I guess there is no loss but I prefer to buy only the things I want so the compromise is ***** to me. If it were buy 1 card you don't want and get it free them maybe I could sell it to myself as nothing ***** but I just have to live with yet another card in my collection I wish was not there. But I would not buy 2 cards I didn't want in order to get a free card of any sort.

I'll get the next Red Fox card and quickly forget the calendar altogether.

If there had been no exclusive cards then there would currently be six cards less ........the reality is the community spends hundreds of $ just to smell a worn piece of clothing, they spend hundreds and hundreds to win $100 and they spend massive amounts to get a $1.30 card. That is not totem's fault but customers being irresponsible. Why would they give up free money just because grown adults can't manage themselves? This is not call of duty where a 13 year old can max out their parents credit card. This is ADULT entertainment. And if grown adults are fine not managing themselves then that is great too. It can be fun blowing a bank account of things people love.

Who are you and what have you done with the real @orclover? 😊

Sorry @orclover I know we don't often agree but👍

Would also like to add that Totem are a business. They have to make money and invest in new equipment to stay in business otherwise they will just fall by the wayside.

I do not want to see Totem fail. They have a unique and interesting product.

If there had been no exclusive cards then there would currently be six cards less than there are. Sorry, but no way.Each girl shoots usually 6 cardsEach exclusive card has been part of a 6 cards setIn NOT any case an exclusive card has been the 7th card of a set (which would have meant it to be REALLY a plus, something more than usual, something extraordinary)So, it's easy to assume that if such cards would have not been released as exclusive ones, they would have been released just as ordinary cards, as the 5 other ones of same set.

Moreover, the fact exclusive cards have pratically nothing different from other cards makes me think that decision about which cards release as exclusive could have been taken even much time after shooting.

The sets of 6 are arbitrary. They just happen to be 6 based on a daily schedule. Some girls shoot 4, or 2 or 9. Red Fox will have 12 cards...somewhere between 10-12 hours of istripper content and 500 pictures. You have to either wait or pay "extra" for 9% of her content and get a 45% discount or more for 91% of her content. And it is not fair to blame totem. It is their perogative to try different sales techniques. If the community only bought what was logical totem would be ***** to sell the card for normal price or even less. The reality is the community spends hundreds of $ just to smell a worn piece of clothing, they spend hundreds and hundreds to win $100 and they spend massive amounts to get a $1.30 card. That is not totem's fault but customers being irresponsible. Why would they give up free money just because grown adults can't manage themselves? This is not call of duty where a 13 year old can max out their parents credit card. This is ADULT entertainment. And if grown adults are fine not managing themselves then that is great too. It can be fun blowing a bank account of things people love.

The Price is the Number of cards times your price per card at your Current Level.
I don't think the Leveling up extra discount is part of the initial Calculation.

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Free Member 775 credits - 25 per card
Silver Member 697.50 credits - 22.50 per card
Gold Member 620 credits - 20 per card

A free member and Bronze member would make it to Silver
A silver member would make it to Gold
A gold Member with 70 cards or more, would make it to Platinum
The other Levels if you are within 30 cards of the Next level, it would apply to you as well..


Should you fall into one of these categories where the 31 cards would put you above the next Level.
You Might want to write to customer service after the purchase and request the Credits be returned to you.
the worse they can say is no.

Had you bought them one by one, you would have Leveled up and gotten a better price on the next batch of cards.

I love this month to month pre-order I wish you guys would just bring back the subs again ^_^ save so much time for me at least. Either way your never going make everybody happy -_- but at least you try and you made me happy today, thanks for that! 👍😍


PZ

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So... this now equals a whopping total of 5 special event cards that I don't have. I've missed out on the last 5 in a row.

I'm a collector & am very disappointed with all of the red tape & ***** credits that are associated with obtaining these cards. Many people have been lucky with the games of chance that have been offered. I'm not one of those.

Totem, please consider providing a method for longtime loyal customers that have reached a certain status of card ownership to just straight across purchase these cards.

These are big files, requiring not just a few KB's, but over 100 MB's with the newer ones being over 1 GB. Even an extra cost would be better than gaining a lot of cards that I have no interest in clogging up precious hard drive space with.

@pantylicious, you dont have to download the cards that you own though. I have quite a few (lot) now that I have acquired that are in my collection but not downloaded (i've not checked, but I assume this takes up zero or next to zero HDD space). Best wishes

True, it's too much. Hell, we don't even know if the show's good to begin with. Even good models have bad performances from time to time. But even if that's not the case, it's just too much.

I also don't want random cards being added to my account, that's the definition of wasting money. But totem doesn't seem to understand that not everyone wants every damn card they make just because it contains a nude girl dancing, or else everyone would be blowing their entire salaries on shows.

Sales figures speak much louder than a relatively small group of no matter how much they protest.

Totem is going to keep doing these things until enough members choose not to continue supporting them and I'm starting to doubt that will ever be the case. sadly, it is what it is.

This is happening because there is no alternative to iStripper. Totem has zero competition. I'm sure, if there was another company offering girls dancing on your desktop, Totem would be taking into account those complaints and turn into a more appealing promotions to those protesters, or maybe lowering credits cost to attract more customer vs competition, find effective ways to keep up with sales figures...etc

I remember some years ago a porn website would easily cost $40+/month, nowadays competition is so strong that some sites offer access with little as $5/month

But since there iStripper has no competition, unfortunately, it is what it is...

As it is now this "special events" seem more and more like "blackmail events" = "if you don't preorder at full price a package of cards, you will never get the card... unless you gamble in the future...".

The exclusive card is really the only incentive to pre-purchase. But what makes this card exclusive? There doesn't appear to be a specific event tied to it.

When you compare it to similar "sales", the advent calendars had a Christmas card & you could wait for all cards to be revealed before purchasing. Others had a 20% discount slapped onto them.
As this one does not have these added values, it feels like totem are dangling a very tempting card in a desperate attempt to make us buy 31 cards in 1 go, as if unsure they would be bought when sold individually.

On that note, I will kiss the Black Fox farewell & wait for an event with an actual discount when I shall purchase cards I know I want.

you guys are a hoot.
I like that the second one boasts a USB port .. whatever that is for 😕

oh i just found it .. a usb powered nipple clamp 😉

@muttonjeff do the nipple clamps vibrate pls post web site. sounds like fun

@muttonjeff and @gkar45. I think that this is in the wrong Thank God It's Friday thread, lol

That's okay though. This discussion is getting too heavy and needs the distraction.

The usb powered nipple clips send a micro electrical voltage through the nipples in addition to the vibrating that @gkar45 is interested in.

Guys - try not to get too upset over the exclusive cards - its only porno after all . Although I was suckered into a few spins somewhile back I made a decision from then on to Never play the fruit machine , Never play the Goose game , Never buy a month upfront . Never fall for the package discount offer . My advice is to stay away everytime Totem offer up a couple of cards you might wish to buy from your wishlist with a one or more duff cards from their extensive back catalogue of stuff you have already rejected. I am not wasting credits on poor cards or blind offers -regardless of any deal Totem might conjure up - end of . We should all do likewise.

Its been suggested many times before - but why not an offer where you choose your own cards - say 5 for the price of 4. Simples.

If you can't stand seeing a deleted card in your inventory, I believe they can remove it from your account if you ask lol. I do say it's nice to see Michelle a few years matured 😍

Yes, that is all true - but in my opinion totally irrelevant. There are still 6 more cards currently available then there would have been if there had been no special events offering them.

If what I said is true, there is nothing as "6 more cards", because if there wouldn't have been the special events those cards still would have been released as normal cards (what they really are).
As they are just part of an ordinary 6 cards shooting, they could have had an ordinary release too.

But eventually the events - not the cards - are the special thing, ok. I then am sorry, but can find no sense and no happiness in events ***** people to spend much more just in order to get an ordinary card subtracted to an ordinary shooting, if they really want that card. Maybe others do.

As a last thing, I'll remind to all that we had:

• 1 exclusive card in 2017;
• 2 exclusive cards in last months of 2018;
• 3 exclusive cards in the six first months of 2019 (...are we going to have other 3 ones in next six months? Hope not...).

I think it could be starting to be a little too much, even for people which is more well disposed than me about this sort of promos...

Thank you for nothing.

Lorena Garcia 😂😂😂😂 All cards behind paywalls!

Yes, that is all true - but in my opinion totally irrelevant. There are still 6 more cards currently available then there would have been if there had been no special events offering them. Its not a matter of their production, it is a matter of their release - they are extra releases

Why do you think that there should be something intrinsically special about a special event card? It has never been the case that the card was special, it's the events that are special.

If there had been no exclusive cards then there would currently be six cards less than there are.

Sorry, but no way.

• Each girl shoots usually 6 cards
• Each exclusive card has been part of a 6 cards set
• In NOT any case an exclusive card has been the 7th card of a set (which would have meant it to be REALLY a plus, something more than usual, something extraordinary)

So, it's easy to assume that if such cards would have not been released as exclusive ones, they would have been released just as ordinary cards, as the 5 other ones of same set.

Moreover, the fact exclusive cards have pratically nothing different from other cards makes me think that decision about which cards release as exclusive could have been taken even much time after shooting.

@TheEmu 😉I'm happy that you're happy with the product 😊 No need for me to keep on arguing... I believe I made my case.

Anyway, I'm gone now. Let's see what my 4,000+ credits gets me in the coming months/years. I might even be back if something drastically changes in the future - I 'm not keeping my hopes up, though.

All the best to you all, signing out.

If there had been no exclusive cards then there would currently be six cards less than there are. They are indeed extra cards even though they are in no material way any different to those being sold by the normal route.

What is "exploitative" is to sell cards cheaply one by one encouraging us to buy them singly rather than as an expensive one off purchase of the whole set even if they did allow us to pay in installments. If Totem had started by telling me that I could buy 4000+ cards for even half the price that I have paid I would not have taken up that offer - it is the normal sales that are the more exploitative of the two.

No need to polish this. Totem is dangling a demanded and coveted card in front of our noses, saying, " you can't have this unless you blind buy dozens of cards including many you don't really want to buy".

Indeed

for me it's not just "extra service" as you put it. It's regular cards released but being kept as ***** unless you spend your money on cards you don't want.

Indeed

if they injure their most spending customers enough for them to leave the product. I belong to the latter group

I will remain a Istripper user, instead; but I have to say that all this - so often and insistently repeated - form of "exclusive" marketing is getting me more and more unsatisfied.

@TheEmu Either you are extremely naive, or "a company man", or not getting it...

No need to polish this. Totem is dangling a demanded and coveted card in front of our noses, saying, " you can't have this unless you blind buy dozens of cards including many you don't really want to buy".

That's the situation. there's nothing you can deny that with. Many of us, the users, are "collectors". Having a card unavailable without extreme loops and spending is NOT a situation comparable of them not having released that card at all. You know it just as well we others do.

And yes, there's no law against that, I get it. But it makes me reeealllly loath the people behind these ideas. There's no need for that... it's disrespectful, short sighted and stupid (unless they make more money from it, then it's brilliant!)

Based on all that, for me it's not just "extra service" as you put it. It's regular cards released but being kept as ***** unless you spend your money on cards you don't want. Good business, if they turn that to be profitable, but really stupid if they injure their most spending customers enough for them to leave the product. I belong to the latter group, and I'm very unhappy that I spent the money in the past to have so much credits to spare...

It's exploitative, over greedy and disrespectful to loyal customers. I don't know if they realise it at Totem, but they are alienating the most loyal customers at the expense of quick buck

That's exactly what I am saying.

in what way is it exploitative to offer something as an optional extra?

In not any way an exclusive card is an "optional extra"; it has always been (and Red Fox's one is too - check Lukaszr's site) just a normal card belonging to the usual pack of 6 ones which is produced for almost each model; a card which hasn't anything different from other 5 ones, but which is anyway totally arbitrarily subtracted from ordinary sale and made not buyable, so that it can be obtained only by partecipating to expensive promos - or doing expensive gamble.
Exclusive cards are not a plus at all, they are a minus in all ways.

I have not and will not buy a block of cards to get one card. I won 3 special cards in a scratch game, but paid too much for them, so I won't do that again. Perhaps, someday, Totem will offer me a chance to get another special card that I feel is reasonable. Until then, I've got lots of cards to watch and limited time.

It's a great pity that according to the showroom there are only few buyable cards in the future. One of them would have been the 'Black Fox'. It's even more disappointing that it's unbuyable.

@dfner - in what way is it exploitative to offer something as an optional extra? If you don't like the extra option then simply ignore it and you are back in exactly the same situation you would be in if the offer had never been made in the first place. If the offer had not been made then either this particular card or some other card would not currently be available at all.

I still have more than 4,000 credits so I could easily simply pre-purchase the July cards and be done with it..., but this kind of business is "not on", seriously.

It's exploitative, over greedy and disrespectful to loyal customers. I don't know if they realise it at Totem, but they are alienating the most loyal customers at the expense of quick buck... So short sighted, I used to have respect for them.... Maybe the amount of purchases of new customers compensates the diminishing cash flow from the rest of us, and if so, good luck and enjoy your cash!! You won't get any more from me...

Unless something changes drastically, I will let my credits dwindle down over time for models I AM interested in (in contrast to the models I couldn't care less, that Totem tries to ***** feed me with these blind bundle buys with "special event cards" as bait).

They'll get my purchases until late 2020 based on the amount of credits on my account at the moment. But I very much doubt I will buy any more credits, whether there will be a cashback promo or not in the future. If there will be an opportunity to obtain the Red Fox special event card with the credits I have left at that particular point, I will likely do that.

Anyway, it was fun as long it lasted. I found this site only about 16 months ago, so I'm not overly invested.. have fun, I probably won't be here any more. 😀😋

So sorry that the greed and disrespect got the best of this product...

I couldn't vote as ther was no Option that fit my choice..

if it had been a simple
Do you support Exclusive cards?
Yes
No

I would have voted Yes..

you guys are a hoot.
I like that the second one boasts a USB port .. whatever that is for 😕

oh i just found it .. a usb powered nipple clamp 😉

My collection consists of over 2000 shows that I specifically wanted to purchase, but it also includes over 200 shows that I watched once, if at all, before deleting. I'm always excited to add to the 2000+ collection, but I swear I'll never purposefully purchase another pack of cards if there's a chance to get another card I just - don't - want.

It's not about discounts for me. It's not about special cards. It's about me not wanting to feel like I'm wasting my money. And that's what I'd be doing if I paid for this preorder.

And listen, the reality is that I don't need iStripper. I like it. I want to see beautiful women performing erotically on my desktop. But I don't need it, and it follows that I don't need Michelle's newest card either. So I'm not going to blow credits on around ten cards I don't want just to get between one and twenty cards that I do want.

There's my contribution to the discussion. If you want me to buy Black Fox, offer it to me on it's own. If you don't want me and others in my position to buy it, then keep doing what you're doing.

@BCPK and @CwHart, you are both Double Diamonds. Standard price for Double Diamond member is 15 credits per show, so you should pay 31 cards * 15 cr = 465 credits.

775 would be 31 cards * 25 cr. This shouldn't be possible, because even if you're Bronze member, you will get the Silver status after purchasing 10th card. With the Silver status you gets 10% off. I don't know how is the price calculated, but I think the price for Bronze member should be: 10 cards * 25 cr + 21 cards * 22,50 cr = 722,50 credits.

Where did you get that 775 ?


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OK, please don't answer. I know where that number comes from.

Have a great weekend.😎