Hello everyone, now we are going to the new program, but what do you think if you could introduce a ranking updated on a daily rating of the girls?

LoL who would bother him/herself to rate up to several hundreds of shows every very day again and again.
That would be an even greater waste of time as to take care about ratings at all.
Better trust your own taste and forget about meaningless ratings.

I have no real opinions on this.

I don't take the ratings seriously anyway.

Because the ratings are so deceiving, based on various factors of the viewers (some people vote a girl 10 just because she is attractive and nothing else!), and most importantly, because people who have NOT seen the card they are rating can rate, it is quite unnecessary.

Unless you disable the rating system to people who have yet to buy the card, then it is pointless because the SAME girls will monopolize the top rankings and thus the girls who are not rated as higher will not be equally popular. This is the situation now, but we can only make it worst with this idea. There are a LOT of underrated girls on this site and a lot of overrated girls as well.

In theory, if the rating system was that good, I would immediately want to go out and buy the top three for two tickets. So lets see the top three:

1. Melisa - West Coast
Admitidly, this looks quite interesting. I may get this on a special, but I wouldn't spend two tickets on it. However, there is no way I could take this seriously as a number 1.

2. Morgane - Sun Goddess
Oh my God, this is *****. In general I ***** golden costumes, but this is even worse than the usual fair. I would never buy this card willingly. Totem would have to give me it for free and even then I would never play it. More like second bottom than second top.

3. Morgane - Love cruise
I bought it for one ticket and rate it a generous 6. But there are other card of Morgane and other girls I rate far higher.

So as you can see, the rating system is meaningless from my point of view.

My suggestion is do away with the damn rating system completely and each member rate their own cards their own way. Everyone has their preferences when it comes to such things as a dancers beauty, body and boob size and shape, performance style, hair colour and yes even skin colour,, lol,,

@titilate - Completely agree. It would be better if people could be more objective in their reviews or at least VG give us some better trailers.

I don't have a problem with the current rating system as long as it is regarded as a bit of fun and not used seriously.

I don't think any system would work, because it will always be hijacked by groupies and fanboys. It wouldn't surprise me if the girls and their associates have their own profiles in the site and give themselves perfect tens.

Also, people rate differently. Some people only give tens on the basis that 9 or less is crap. Some people will not vote if they don't like a card. Others, like myself, use a wider range where a 6 or a 7 is a decent score and 9 or ten is rare.

In saying that, people should rate the way they want. But that is why no rating system will work.

Nothing wrong with the current scoring system as far as I csn see, ***** to have to "re-score" every day (if that's what it meant), I'd probably be more interested to see a bar chart type of thing of how many times the cards were downloaded. Just from an interest point of view.

'Ratings', like 'reputation scoring' type of thing et al deffo not a good idea cos you could end up with 'ratings wars', has happened elsewhere where forums have such things. Getting all their mates to sign up and vote the same way and all that kind of nonsense.

No, Don't, Stop Mucking about !!!

*Exactly* the kind of response I was hoping for. LOL... :D

The current rating system is a joke. Totem says it is supposed to be fun yet at the same time the ratings matter for specials and many many new members use the ratings as a guide. How would a new member know the ratings are a sham?
A blind person could rate the cards since you don't have to see the card to vote on it. They can give morgane and melissa cards 10's just by knowing the name. Costume, dancing, performing, etc. are not seen by majority of voters on each card so a blind person is just as good at rating.

Voter accountability would be great. When you view a member profile and see their collection it will show you how they rated each girl (ones they own and ones they don't own).

but seriously. Either disallow members from voting on cards they do not own or have 2 ratings for each card. Overall and owner ratings.

Actually I noticed that, only allowed if actually owned rating does make more sense.

@slayyer - I think you put it perfectly, but the ratings, though pointless, won't sway most newcomers as I think many people will buy cards based on their physical attraction to the girl. My first card was Sandra H.

When I first joined up, Morgane had five or six cards on the front page. Highly rated and if it wasn't her, then it was Melisa. Both are great, but still the ratings create a monopoly by a one to three girls, even just one. If you go by rank, then Morgane would be considered the best. I initially avoided her because I assumed she must be overrated since fanboys will inevitably push a girl up in the rankings by fiddling with the ratings or something.

The reviews suck too because most do not have any objectivity in them. Go to any Nikky Case card and see exaggerating praises, despite Nikky having reservations about what she wants to do.

Do away with the rating system altogether or disable to people who have not bought the card!

You're right, Slayyer, soo agree with your reasoning, in fact I opened this post also to know your views. Even I find wrong with the current ratings system, and that's why I would that change for the better.

hello all, i think the best is have to us disposition sevaral ratings system. i hope Totem think to made this for the new site.

When Totem produces a new card for a girl it comes out with sometimes a very high rating or a low rating,presumably based on past cards that model has. To me this is unfair to start off with as a new card should not be prejudged and it takes a lot of votes to ***** a rating up or down a little. All new cards should start with the same rating of "0" or whatever and let people judge that card on how the girl performs and looks etc. in that show and not on her past ratings.

Hi Alerte, yes, I hope this too !!!

I agree with snake353solid for an edit to Special Offers

Tanks Peterboy1975

I use my own personal rating. My personal site rating is counted in this, but only partly. I'm a statistic freak and love playing around with spreadsheets. (auto colouring cell's, automatic graphs based on loading a spreadsheet, pivot-tables, etc)

The site rating is crap as:

• It doesn't show how many downloaded it,
• You can vote without downloading.

That last thing can be handy if you don't always buy tickets. Rate the girls 10 and they show up as your most favourite in your profile. Handy to have a list ready of girls you want to buy. And thus fully feck up the ratings ;-)

I can't think of a system of avoiding fanboys.
Just use it as something fun, you just can't take it serious. Even TotemRex is mis-using it. Just take a look at one of is favourite girls, he's got to be kidding... Jennifer Galbina?? Seriously? Nah...
Use it for own personal preference but never believe that everybody else does as well.

@deszu
You are right in wath you sayed, thats wy I prponed a change in the system of the rating. I love statistics too, and should be nice if they gonna be more things in the new version.

Just came across an interesting rating system.
It's a star system 1-5 but next to it was a breakdown on how many rated 1,2,3,4 or 5 stars. This way you can see a better interpretation. If 9 people rate 5 and 1 just 1 star that gives an average of 4.6. This way you can pick out the trolls a lot easier.

@Deszu

Thats the same system Amazon use. Yes, its quite good.

Trolls aren't the problem with the rating system really, otherwise all the girls would have too low scores.

The real problem are the fanboys who always scatter 10s ike confetti and of course the noobs.

There are two issues with noobs.

The first problem with the noobs is ignorance. They buy and play their first shows. They may be so excited by what they see that they automatically give a ten even though they haven't compared it to anything else. I know I did this as a noob

The second problem with the noobs is partly caused by Totem. The default setting in the "Browse Models" page lists the cards in order of rating. So naturally, noobs are likely to buy the higher rated cards because 1) These are the first cards the see and 2) They trust the rating system through ignorance.

The result is off course is that you end up with noobs giving tens to already higher rated cards boosting their rating even more.

So basically we need:

• Expert rating
• N00b rating
• ratings after taking a full psychology test.

I don't know. My rating system is based on a lot of things:

• Personal rating (5 star system)
• My site rating (first impression)
• Clip rating (takes a long time)

All clips rated below 6 I delete. So I make another distinction between

Maybe a "comment rating" and a "non-comment" rating?
but that would be difficult as there are two languages on the system. English don't see the french comments and visa-versa.

I can see the french comments. I think it depends what options you select in your profile.

I personnally have changed ratings quite a lot since I started. I have lowered some and raised others and still make the odd adjustment.

The problem is that Totem put rating as their default setting on the "Brouse Girls" page. But that is understandable. They have to put the cards in some order rsting is probably better than any other. Alphabetical would certainly not be fairer.

To be fair, in the home page, the most recent shows are listed first, so it is not all based on ratings.

Overhalling the rating system may help, but it may also be worse. Its a very difficult thing to get right.

I agree with Apasas. Noobs and regular members who do not frequent the forum (the 99% of the 8 million users here)click on "brows models" and they see the models rated top to bottom. I am a regular and I can't help but be swayed at times. I bought melissa cards because I kept seeing her in top 5. I wanted to see what the hype was about. When I first joined morgane was the flavor of the year. I got a taste because of the hype.

The current rating system makes as much sense as walking across broken glass barefoot.
Imagine if every member listed their top 20 cards and ranked them 1-20. Are all 20 cards a 10 rating? If so why is one ranked 1 and another ranked 20? too many 10s. And too many 0 and 1 for girls that someone doesnt like. Stop the confetti.

That's a good point Slayyer about the regular users. I was only thinking of Noobs, but the barabrian hordes who only raid the site occasionally may also be heavily influenced by the ratings more than us more...ahem... sophistcated regular users.

There is also another factor. ***** by Totem. Remember, this is a commercial site directly selling the products being rated. It is not like a story sirte, or You tube, or even like Amazon.

The rating is used as marketing tool. When someone visits the site, they see all these cards rated as 8 and 9s. Obviously this is in Totem's interest as they would want to show the users that the cards are rated highly by exisitng customers.

So Totem don't want their customers to see ratings of only 6 and 7 or lower. No they want to show spectacular ratings of 8s and 9s as the typical rating of their product. So it is not impossible that Totem boost the ratings of all cards to make them appear high.