What is up with people ***** about some girls not being naughty or explicite enough??? they are STRIPPERS and EXOTIC DANCERS. That's what this whole site and program is about. They are not whores or pornstars. Some of the girls might even just be everyday girls that did this one or two times for kicks. If you don't like a card, you can simply delete it. a card costs you what?? like 3 dollars? lighten up people.

:)

wow, I might just go to town on this,not now though i'm tired haha

I agree with Secretfire6.
If you wanna see some girls finger bang themselves, go rent a porno. If you go to a strip club all you see is the girls stripping and dancing, not them fingering themselves. like secret said, if you dont like a show just delete/disable it. its not like your going to go bankrupt off a couple girls. we live in a weak society. we dont like something we whine and *****. So instead of whining and complaing about the girls, why don't you message the team with ideas on how to make the shows better???

I agree 100% with you secretfire6

Ya me 2

@secretfire

for the most part these girls are neither strippers or exotic dancers (on this site you can prob list them on one hand), they ARE 'porn stars' 'models' going through motions that they think we'll find sexy - sadly this is often not the case imho.

& yep I can download a card & delete it, bit backwards don't you think?

@shotties510

I can only speak for myself but I know exactly what I want from a stripper, none of it involves fingering but understand, the major problem here with me is in the definition of explicit - some content here is on par with going to a nudist beach, dunno maybe you guys find it sexy but I kinda know what women generally look like naked.

when I say explicit I don't mean HC but at least year 2001 top shelf mag! ie. spread legs & spread pink if possible - believe it or not exotic dancers on the whole do do this.

whining & ***** lol - keep it up & you'll be going through life wondering why you're not getting anything the way you like it :)

There is a difference between full nudity and explicit and apparantly this site doesnt get it!!! Nor do you and it is not your fault you just aren't old enough to know

I'm not saying that I don't like the shows but there is a fine line between full nudity and EXPLICIT, and if You want to call it explicit thern it had better be or You could be called on it!!!

to all the whiners about 'not expicit, shes ugly, small tits, spread em, etc.. This is a plane old user friendly site that offers exactly what thay advertise. You want more, PPV, monthlys, anything you want. Leave VGHD alone to do what they do. If there is any changes to be made, its deleting members who think that for whining you can get whatever you want. This isnt a restaurant, try the content, if its not what you want, move on.

Expicit is defined in context to the standard. Compared to the many lovely girls who get naked and dance, another girl rubbing and touching is explicit.

Get yer porn elsewhere guys, this is a site with clearly defined programming. Hot girls dancing and stripping. You want toys, girls licking and sucking. I believe its around $2.99 a minute. You want girls with ankles behind their necks, google sex.

LEAVE VGHD ALONE.

I'm proud to have a full collection. Yes there are some i like more than others but, in the long run. Its all hot.

1. zilla, remember these comments aren't aimed @you

2. if large amount of people ***** about something there's usually a problem.

3. leave vghd alone? do you think totem spend an abnormal amount of time agonising over our comments? are they pandering to overbearing pressure?

end of the day the team have their plan & if they can make a few more people happy on the way then i'm all for it, in order to do this though feedback helps.

you may be tired of reading the same thing over & over & you may be entirely happy with your lot but for this issue to be raised so many times it would appear that some aren't.

Here in K.C. Mo. the law for strippers, exotic dancers or what ever you prefr to call them is they can show no pink or ***** the genitals manually on stage. These girls are mostly the girls next door and really don't know what they are doing on stage, but they give their best effort and some make the grade and some don't. With VG and SS you never knew what you were getting until it was downloaded and you watched it. I frankly enjoy the performances of each girl ,some more than others. I think that the team is doing the best it can with the budget and the girls they can afford. Thanks team, keep up the good work!!!!!

"If there is any changes to be made, its deleting members who think that for whining you can get whatever you want. This isnt a restaurant, try the content, if its not what you want, move on."

@Zillakong,

This isn't a place where ideas that run to certain people's dislikings should be banned simply for sounding condesending in tone. It may not be a restaurant but it isn't a dictorial regime either where opposition or condesention should be repressed.

This being stated by someone who overall agrees with you concerning some of the harsher critisizms you may find.

I bet you'd even voice a complaint if they hired Rosanne Bar or Rosie O'Donnell to strip for our desktops. I know I would (after picking my jaw up in suspended disbelief and shock)

Let's just show some fairness in all of this

The first thing we need to remember is that Totem HAS listened to the comments and is going to gradually increase the explicitness of the girls' acts as the girls are comfortable with. TotemRX has repeatedly told us this but some people refuse to beleive it. Because it hasn't happened overnight they continue to ***** about the issue and both sides continue to get riled up.

Totem in the past has told us that it is at least a two month process to create a card from the date of filming. That is what we need to keep in mind. The change is coming, it will just take a while because you can't throw a switch and have everything suddenly change.

I for one don't care what the final outcome is. If it becomes too graphic for my tastes I'll just click that nice little check box next to show explicit content. Then I'll just go my merry way enjoying the girls the way I always have.

wow what a response..well I know what explicite is. it is something that is shown above and beyond the norm (as referring to sexual things..porn,stripping etc) The title of this site is "VirtuagirlHD strippers on your desktop". The norm for strippers is acctually topless and panties and depending on what counrty/state/county your in it might be full nude. with that in mind, explicite for this site would be rubbing breast, spreading and lightly rubbing pussy. If you get a card that has that in it yay..feel lucky, that is above the call of duty for the girls. HOWEVER, there are a few that think that explicite should be the norm and that even more explicite is the treat. these people are in the wrong site and crying to the wrong people. that is my whole point. totem could change the name to "virtuagirlHD sex shows on your desktop" and all would be fine to have fingering and licking and lesbo shows, but its strippers. so that is what you should expect.

They are not using a dildo??!?!
LOL

Yeah sure that would be a nice little "gift" to see, but damm I enjoy the show just as it is.

If they did do more it would only be a bonus, but no bitching here.
My only request is to have no panties when they have a skirt on. LOL

@Microcyb
About the no panties but skirt request... I know you're gonna love this one ;) ...the poor girl keeps pulling that dress down to cover herself but it's just to small! :o)

And... it has some "Explicit" in it as well ;)

my second point is this. If you see an add for strippers and expect to see something more than a dancing nude you have one of 2 problems.

1. your a moron who makes up their own definition of words and names (like stripper) in a futile attempt to bitch about it and get what they want

i hope nobody here is like that
or

2. you have been so exposed and ..say..over sexed, that seeing a nude woman no longer excites you. I know that bare breasts are a common sight in europe and that they are not as uptight as the US, but damn, I don't think that a beautiful nude woman's body should ever be a bore.

i have nothing against explicite shows. I have some of them and like them. I am against people who don't understand what to expect from the site.

And there's not much to that dress on the back either, lol - showing her cute little bum (or ass as most people say on here, I'm from the UK!).

its like a bunch of people going to sub-way (a healthy low-fat sandwich resturaunt) and ***** that they don't pan fry and deep fry there food..and then hoping sub-way will change for them.

the great thing about Totem and this site is, that in theory you could create a whole new part or category in the site for "highly explicite" shows.
i allways wondered why the subscriptions sent cards to you at random. it seems to me that the best thing would be to give the customer their choice. but thats a different topic

Obviously goes to P.T. Barnum's theory of showbusiness, you can't please all of the people all of the time.

How about a group of people going in to Subway and whining that Subway still serves Red Meat despite claims of being "a healthy low-fat sandwich resturaunt". Everybody is going to have their own ideas about what certain terms describe. Language is like that. Totem started this by adding an explicit content button in their checklist. Now people want what that button means while on the other hand people are wanting what is implied by strippers on your desktop.

The point is we can TURN OFF explicit content via that same little button if we are somehow offended. They (Totem) are giving the customer the ultimate ability to choose.

omg @secretfire

i've just been out tonight to a stripclub & by the sound of what you'd expect to see you would have thrown up & have to leave after (or during) the first dance!

1. totem are not based in america, or are their entire userbase, as such we would appreciate what the 'unlimited scope' of the internet can deliver.

2. 'you have been so exposed and ..say..over sexed, that seeing a nude woman no longer excites you.' ??

as i tried to explain before which you so eloquently disregarded is that all these girls come from different backgrounds - if ruth from allruth.com came here & did a fully nude but not explicit show would you not go mad? it beggars belief that you think your arguments on this topic still hold water!

3. unfortunately the boundaries for what are explicit are constantly changing as I tried to explain in another thread, keep up or get complaints totem! I'm not however saying that good taste shouldn't be maintained.. just that a balance should be reached!

Being redundant, but I feel it needs to be said alot so that many, especially new members,can know the perspective. REMEMBER: As of today MOST OF THE CARDS ON VGHD WERE SHOT AWHILE AGO WHEN TOTEMS' IDEA OF EXPLICIT WAS DIFFERENT,LESS EXPLICIT. As mentioned here they are now evolving in this with new girls animations-more explicit.
Recently I saw a post that lit into Elya for NOT reading all the bad press her dancing has received here(!)and NOT changing her dance cards! Yikes! She was "filmed" awhile ago & she's probably graduated school and is working on an archaeological dig somewhere!(I doubt all/any models read our prattle'n'chat).If Totem listed shoot dates of models that might ease the ***** BUT would limit purchase of cards as folks would veer toward the newer ones. So just "get it"here!
One thing though-Maybe a spliting of the "explicit" into
(1)"Erotically explicit"=spreading/light touch.(Jana/Zu)(2.)"Sexually explicit=twirling/fingering/dipping (Vicky/Sharka)works,eh?

An interesting thread.

I agree with a lot of what has been written. I am happy with the level of nudity and explicitness of the models.

I would ***** to think that Totem would encourage the models to do more than they were prepared to do and feel that this would show through in the animations and spoil them. A net effect of models that would not return and animations that did not flow would damage the product.

There is definitely a difference between naked and explicit. The boundary between them will be in different places for different individuals. That said there has been inconsistent use of the naked/explicit tagging of files and it is difficult /impossible for individuals using tickets to choose without consulting the forums.

VGHD is, in my experience a novel technology. I think there are opportunities for both a less explicit version, in the form of context sensitive help and or search; and a more explicit version.

@sexyagent You are right on about this being a novel technology. Your comment about the girls is along the line of what TotemRX has planned. Those that are comfortable with it can do it, the shy ones can just do what they normally would.

Like GeeseH has said many of the girls that do come on here though are porn actresses who are used to doing a whole lot more. So being a little more explicit, showing more pink, fingering, etc. would not be that much of a stretch.

I know it sounds like I am one of those wanting harder material in the way I have written defending the hard core point of view in this post but I actually am not. I like things the way they are. But to use the Subway analogy again, I have acid reflux so I can't eat the hot peppers and I don't like olives. I can turn off the explicit material yet it is still there for those who want spicy peppers with their models.

The whole thing is about choice and we have the ability to choose what we watch.

OK in short; the girls are sexy, The outfits are hot (95%), The dances are sexy (nag all you want, I love em), and you have to admit regardless of what you think the application is awesome!

I can only whine about one thing. My eye keep moving to them instead of the rest of the computer screen!

I turn them off (LOL), but just cannot seem to leave them deactivated for long, so regardless if they are not doing some more explicit or not, you have to admint it is damm fun......

10 years ago there was nothing like this ,on the net this is heaven

@secretfire6

After the bullshit happened with jununger, I got disgusted enough to stop posting here, BUT:

When I see some young ***** like you & Shotties510 (both americans: what a coincidence!!!), to call me ''moron'' because I want to see dildo action here, then I become very very angry!

Because I can't SPIT you directly on your (very ugly is the truth) face, I' ll use some... mild language instead!

1. Quit masturbation!!! In large quantities causes personalities like yours!

2. Some years ago (I suppose by that time you were still playing with your teddy bear), VG2 & SS2 had the same title ''strippers on your desktop'', but they had shows with DILDOS!!!

Were then, the Totem owners morons???

Or some of us here, are morons because we ask for the SAME explicitness which the SAME company produced on its earlier software???

3. Finally, ''over sexed'' are the (ugly) kids like you, who have ''hard ons'' just by the thought of a topless woman, NOT the REAL mature men!

I think there is an other problem. It's just that some people expect to see girl's pussy, maybe some touches when they read "explicit" on the card. But for any reason sometimes some cards don't show explicit shows for several days although they have a lot of them. As you know Lucky (OMG! You make me crazy sweety!)has loads of explicit shows. "Strike" was the first card I purchased and it has definetively explicit shows(!). But for the first week I didn't see them, no one, just teases. I clicked on the button "please, strip for me" like a horny monkey at it's willy, but nothing happened. A week later I saw only explicit shows, so I disabled them. I think this a "problem" (not a problem for me) with program.

"mature" and "men" would not be you AgistGT. what an unholy piece of crap..get off our thread please.