@FalconAF: Well Wyldanimal explained it best.
All images line up on top of each other hiding what they cover of the previous images.
the farther down a sprite or clip sprite is defined in the scene file the higher it is.
so the last sprite or clip sprite defined in the scn file is the one that is the topmost layer.
Thats why i moved the definition of floor and center stage down in the scn file so thate they would be over the models and their reflections hiding the parts of the reflection that are not on the stages.
So yes for your scene there are 2 masks now. and by renaming the plan0 you made it that the topmost image can't be found by VG. it would be better to remove the part from the scn file as you will now get an error noticable by the extra button appearing on the preview called 'Toggle Log'

Edit: I quickly made up this image to explain how the different images work together.
I give 2 different possibilities to line the sample images up and show what the result would be. Def1 and def 2 are scn files with the different elements defined in the order of my example. I really hope this helps to understand the concept.
If Image 1 would be defined last in the scn file you would only see a red box.
The model would be completely hidden and also the blue box.

@readyforanything see Bella's all tattoes in my post from 330 days ago

A beautiful picture from a beautiful duo

My vote Eve and Monica

My vote Carie and Misa

@StarryK,

Thanks!

On the 3 model one, I didn't know how to change the mask to keep the reflections on the stage only, but discovered by accident that if I left them "on" it would produce the illusion of a "clear" platform area around the stage that reflected the model walking on/off the screen when she wasn't on the stage, or when she had a foot slightly off the stage (a few model cards like Jenni Gregg will "wander around" left and right in their clips and step off the stage with standing and pole clips).

I remember changing the opacity to 0.0 on the 5 model file because ALL the reflections did what you said...they extended all the way to the bottom of the screen. I didn't know how to fix that, so I just "turned them off" with the 0.0 setting. I was trying to get the 2 rear platform reflections to stay on their platforms, and the 3 front stage ones to do what they do in the 3 model file...keep extending "off the front stage, but could never figure out how to do it. So when I turned them all off, the 3 front models would enter/exit the front stage by walking in mid-air off the stage. That's why I left the left and right chair PNG activated in the .scn file to hide that.

Is there a way to keep the rear platform reflections on their own platforms, while still allowing the front stage reflections to extend "off the stage" to keep that "clear extended stage" effect around the front stage? EDIT: I found out that if I just rename the "plan0.png" file to "plan0.png.TEMP" it works.

The reflection masks still ***** me a bit. I'm thinking there are TWO separate reflection masks in the 5 Model scene now...1 of them is part of the "Floor" .png file..."plan3.png" (?) for the 2 rear platforms (or it is just the "Floor" .png file itself blocking the platform reflections from extending downward off the platforms?), and the other is at the front of the Front Stage (the "plan0.png" file) to keep those 3 model's reflections on the Front Stage?

Still learning!

thanx @MattBFreq3 for posting the next challenger

next challenge will be

Marta vs. Vicky S

starts tomorrow at 12:00 pm paris time, about 15 1/4 hours from now.

shame you cant edit anymore :-(

"she booted out 8 different challengers in 2 weeks"

it should have read:

"8 challengers fell off the ladder in 2 weeks and Abigale took out 5 of them"

Sorry

"The best" according to which criteria, may I ask?

Best looking ... or by performance ... or boobs or bum's size ... or hair color perhaps?

I'd like to know, because there isn't such a thing as "the best" for me, when it comes to models. Each of them is equally the best in its very own way. But as always, there are just some favorites... for each of us.

So all the thing here boils down to different personal tastes and preferences, right?

And what honor will the winners get ... ? Nothing, I guess.

Seems just couple of new "ladders" are starting here.

Well, I was pipped to the post last time by member84392371 by his last minute vote and him choosing Abigaile on behalf of RMNS45 as the next challenger, so this time im glad to be able to put forward the fantastic (IMO) and curvaceous Marta as the next challenger! I hope she will at least get off the starting blocks! :-)

I do have to say as well, although Abigaile is a nice girl and I did vote for her once against Angie Line, she did start to annoy me too as she booted out 8 different challengers in 2 weeks, some of whom were favorites of mine, which is a bit much to be honest.

@member84392371 Maybe you shouldn't have pipped me to the post then we wouldn't have been in all this mess with no one getting past Abigaile ;-) lol


I don't know whether rule 5b is a bit harsh as well, I don't know how anyone else feels about this rule, but dropping 10 places on the ladder may be better than dropping off all together?
Or maybe if the 3 challenges with the same girls all happen within a month or 2 months of each other, the loser drops off the ladder? You'd be able to keep track of the challenges that way as im sure its possible for challengers to meet 3 times within a year and would be harder to keep track of those challenges.

...opps... there she goes! ( Abigaile Johnson )

( whew ) ... would just ***** it , if Vicky fell off the ladder...

I voted against Abigaile all times .. really wanted her to lose .. but somehow when she is out of the ladder i am feeling ... SAD? lol .. wth:)

@Spaveinvader: thanks for posting the result.

Abigaile Johnson falls off the ladder (rule 5a).
Also, I've decide to put the 3rd same challenge rule into effect, partly to prevent challenges repeating over and over.

Rules of the vghd ladder competition
1 A ladder is formed by – active VGHD only - girls challenging each other daily from 12:00 to 12:00 Paris (lunch)time. Votes before the starting or after the ending time do not count.
1a The maximum number of girls on the ladder is 50. If a new challenger challenges position number 50 and loses, she falls off the ladder and can’t return on it.
2a Votes can be posted for either one of the two girls that are challenging each other. A person can only cast 1 vote per challenge. Votes should be posted specifically mentioning the girl voted for ánd the new score in the current challenge for both girls, like so:

“I Vote for
x votes
y votes”
2b If a person’s vote is not clear to the rest of the voters it will not count, if there’s discussion on this point member84392371 or JayZ971 decide.
3 A challenge ends when 15 votes are cast for a girl ór the challenge reaches the allotted end-time, which is 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.
3a An exception to the 15-vote win is a challenge started by a girl who's already on the ladder, she only needs 10 votes in her first challenge. The person who proposed this challenger is automatically assumed to have voted for that girl at the start of this particular race-to-10 challenge. If the challenger wins she needs the regular 15 in each next challenge of her winning streak. BUT if she loses this first challenge (race to 10) she drops 10 spots on the ladder! If she’s on position 41-49 she drops to the bottom of the ladder, bumping girl no.50 (if there is one) off.
3b An exception to the 12:00 to 12:00 Paris time challenge duration is when a new challenger is picked more than 12 hours after the previous challenge time ended (so after 00:00 Paris time) ánd the challenge is not won at 12:00 Paris time (the normal end time), in which case the challenge runs for another day until 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.

4 If the challenger wins, she automatically challenges the next higher girl.
If the challenger loses (the other girl has more or equal votes), the last person to legally vote picks a new challenger. He/she will still have to vote during the new challenge.
4a A challenger that is already on the ladder can be chosen to challenge the girl that is 1 position higher on the ladder (see also rule 3a).
4b A challenger who is not already on the ladder will challenge the girl on the lowest position of the ladder.
4c If the last person that cast a legal vote fails to propose a challenger within 1 day (ie 12:00 Paris time after the last challenge), one is picked by member84392371 or JayZ971.

5a If a girl loses a challenge with 0 votes she falls off the ladder for good! The same goes for a girl that lost while on the 50th spot of the ladder.
5b If 2 girls meet in a challenge for the third time, the loser drops off the ladder for good!
5c A girl that was kicked off the ladder cannot return on it

6 In case of doubt about voting, the ladder, who gets to pick a challenger, who won a challenge etc., member84392371 or JayZ971 decide.
The rules can be adjusted/changed if needed by member84392371 by himself or through discussion/suggestions in the thread.
If you have a question or complaint send a pm to member84392371 or JayZ971.

Vicky S wins by 10-9

i'm not sure if Abigaile Johnson is knocked off the ladder or stays on the 50th place.

time for a new challenger.
MattBFreq3 - you have to choose a new challenger or a girl from the current ladder as you are the last legal voter!

My top 3

1 Jenna Sweet & Amandine (winner by a huge margin)
2 Nikky Case & Mina
3 Vicky S & Eufrat

My top 3:

1 Bernadette & Nikky Case
2 Ariel & Trisha
3 Carmen Gemini & Cabiria

Aletta Ocean&Mandy Dee for me, because I love Christmas gifts with big boobs !

Abigaile

Abigaile 11
Vicky S 10

Sandra Sanchez&Deny for me, nurses are so cute !

Abigaile

Abigaile Johnson 10
VickyS 10

It's been a long time since we had a duo card.
Obviously there isn't much demand for them here since we have deskbabes.
However I enjoy the duo's from VGHD just as much and sometimes more than deskbabes.

So which duo is the best out there?
Here's semi-final 2 with 10 duo's to vote for, 5 of which will go to the finals.

It's been a long time since we had a duo card.
Obviously there isn't much demand for them here since we have deskbabes.
However I enjoy the duo's from VGHD just as much and sometimes more than deskbabes.

So which duo is the best out there?
Here's semi-final 1 with 10 duo's to vote for, 5 of which will go to the finals.

Im voting the same as the last times.
.its definitely Vicky

Vicky S - 10

Abigaile Johnson - 9

3rd time around that these 2 girls meet, the score being tied at 1 win each.
I feel strongly about a new rule that says that the girl winning the 3rd challenge will knock the other girl off.

Abigaile again for me

Abigaile Johnson 9
Vicky S 9

Hi FalconAF and EverthangForever

Thanks for partaking in this thread
Just downloading the 5 Poledancers scene.
I will have a look at your reflection problem.
Normally reflections are not that hard.
I get back to you once i had a look

Edit: Just had a look and the first issue was the
opacity: 0.0
Change that to 0.1 and the reflection appear however as the mask is not fitting they will stretch down the whole scene.
I will try to make a mask that keeps them on the reflecting area.
Edit2: Even easier than that it is.
Just move the sprites for the floor and the center stage down below the definition for left and right dancer and their reflections and the reflection stops at the correct point
Edit3: Here is the result. All reflections are there and don't leave the reflecting surface
I also removed the chairs in the foreground (they are not in FalconAFs screenshots but still in the scn file)

http://www.kp3d.com/archives/ParisPenthouseClub5poledancers.zip

Basically i changed the scn file as reported above and made an extended scene mask for the foreground so the reflections of the 3 models on the center stage stay on the reflective surface.

PS: I use the webspace of my dear friend Zebrazuk here which i use with his permission to share my addon and my skins and i have to talk to him if thats ok for the scenes. The files aren't that big so i think it is but I will discuss it with him. So it might happen that i have to remove the files again.

Abigaile Johnson

Abigaile Johnson 8
Vicky S 9 :))

I'm pretty sure my reflection issues are just due to some settings I've got wrong in the .scn file. I'm still playing around with them and learning as I go, but probably just don't have my head wrapped around all of it yet. It's making more sense every time I try something new though.

BTW, thanks for the kind comments. This is the first time I've tried contributing something "graphics" to this forum, and it's nice to get good feedback about it, even though I'm miles behind what many others have done here in the past.

ADD: I think I need to clarify something too. If you can run the 5 Pole smoothly with only 5 single models on it, you SHOULD be able to run the 5 Pole with 5 DUO card models on it too. Reason is you still only have 5 model CARDS being played, so you haven't increased the number of model clips from 5 to 10, nor the model clips MASKS from 5 to 10 either. All you've done is get TWO models now in EACH clip.

Vicky S.


Vicky S. 9
Abigaile 7

Vicky S. ( yummy! ) so ... Vicky S. 8 , Abigale 7

@Falcon haha, heat is on alright...so good..The host you are using is cool however. I think the Youtube quickie (..its outstanding btw) probably went a little viral and some severe congestion is outcome ;)

@WA said the layering of sequence from bottom to top of sprites in an SCN ( excluding the parent #Camera object ) determines whether they are visible. I'm having trouble getting shadows and reflections incorporated also and suspect is probably because of sequence and overlap issues. I don't know how this affected by crowding up of Clipsprites, but it may play a part.

Well that sucks. I went to a free hosting site and uploaded 'em there (asfile). I just linked to one of them and the "free" download only shows a wait of 30 seconds. Might be geographical specific depending on the location of servers and traffic...I don't know.

I don't have my own website (don't want one) so I can't upload them to anything like that. If somebody wanted to host them for me, they have my OK to do that.

By the way, with the 5 Pole Dancer file, if you activate nothing but your DUO cards, you can get TEN models on the screen at the same time (GULP!). But your CPU may disown you for ***** treatment. I can get it to run smooth, but the cooling fan on my GPU goes into high-speed overdrive status and yells at me (see above picture). 8-)

Vicky S

Vicky S 7
Abigale Johnson 7

Hi @Falcon, just to let you know there is an hour long wait queue on your zip files as I speak,.. so not to worry. @WA has been explaining sprite positioning
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=8&ftId=27410&gotolastpage=1#bottom
and I'm curious know more about the camera motion parameters, which if people don't prefer in/out camera zoom motions in their shows, can be easily made inactive by stoking them out "//" in the SCN file, as shown below, and resaving the file:

camera {

// animate: 40, PingPong, InOutSine, target, 80, 0, 0
// animate: 40, PingPong, InOutSine, pos, 160, 0, 0
// animate: 20, PingPong, InOutSine, pos, 0, 0, 120

Abigaile

Abigaile 7
Vicky 6

have to go Abigaile

Abigaile 6
Vicky 6

Vicky S

Vicky S 6
Abigaile 5

and once more^^

Abigaile Johnson

Abigaile Johnson 5
Vicky S 5

Abigail Johnson

Abigail Johnson 4

Vicky S 5

Reference my post 2 posts above

Here's the link to the 5 Pole Dancers zip file. Contains all the files you need. Create a new folder under the Scenes directory and unzip the file to it. I think that will work. This is the first time I've provided a download link in the VGHD forum before.

http://asfile.com/file/FI1BS4G

NOTE: I wrongly said this scene has model reflections on the rear two platforms, but not the front stage. It has NO model reflections for any of the 5 models. I couldn't figure out how to get the masks for the reflections to work with them. If anybody can, feel free to post changes to the .SCN file to make them work.

Here's the 3 model Pole Dance one:

http://asfile.com/file/4vfI7qL

Mods: If I posted anything incorrectly by the forum rules, feel free to correct the format. First time I've tried sharing download links here.

ADD: I'm currently uploading a 30 second video of the 5 Pole Dance to YouTube. Will post a link to that when it finishes.

ADD 2: Here's the YouTube video link. FRAPS captured the video with some ***** stuttering, but the Full Screen scene in VGHD plays smooth as silk on my computer. You can select the YouTube video to play at up to 1080p full screen.

http://youtu.be/0tTbX7bsHOc

If we would extend to ladder to 100 those who fell of should get another shot.. but moving on...

Abigail Johnson just cause im in the mood

Abigail Johnson 3

Vicky S 5

Thats amazing @FalconAF, i can't wait to see the SCNs, looks great, amazing !

Just a footnote for those experimenting With other picture settings than PPC, I found that when using new png pics of the wrong dimension it can make it very difficult to align proportions of the sprites. eg: I had to increase the width of the pool pic ~ TbarPool01a.png ~ which I posted too soon earlier by 100 pixels (wider now above), and change the following settings to make it all square up better. Less haste more speed in future I hope lol :

////
camera {
type: 3D
angle: 45
pos: -30, -540, 400
target: -30, -540, 0
ambient: 0.2, 0.2, 0.2

////

// The scene
sprite {
pos: -50, -250, 170
hotspot: 0.5, 1.0
source: Scene
}

/////
// The show
clipSprite {
pos: 0, -320, -1400
source: Clip
standingHeight: 1100
resolution: 20
// material: true
}

As always i vote for the mega hot and sexy beauty: Vicky S

Vicky S 5

Abigail Johnson 2

Oh Yeah....Vicky S Cunt-rolls my eyes,FantaSex Brain, & right hand eternally!

Vicky S 4
Abigail Johnson 2

And another time^^

Vicky S

Vicky S 3
Abigaile Johnson 2

Maybe it would be interesting to extend the ladder in the near future to maybe top 100... Seems like things got stucked here a little bit. Or maybe there simply weren't the right challengers.

Vicky S

Vicky S 2

Abigale Johnson 2

Hi Vicky i have been missing you!!!!

Vicky S!

Abigaile Johnson 2

Vicky S 1

I've been playing around with the default Scenes with v1.2 and came up with a couple.

First one is just 3 Pole Dancers on the default PPC Single Stage. Reflections included but not masked, as it gives the illusion of a clear glass or plexiglass rim around the stage the models can walk on/off the main stage.

Second one is 5 Pole Dancers in a combination of the Single front stage with the two Multi rear platforms (might stress your CPU depending on your hardware). Reflections on the two rear platforms, but not the front stage. I had to combine 3 PNG's to get this to work and haven't figured out how to make the 3 models on the front stage have reflections work correctly, so I left the two front chairs in it to block the view of the models walking out of the screen while not over the front stage.

Both scene files can be easily modified using the "allow" and "deny" parameters in the scene files to allow standing clips for any of the dancer locations (see third picture).

These work great if you have favorite model cards and use the "Progressive Hotness" GUI setting. The model will stay on the same pole while the clips/nudity levels you chose play in order.

I have the scenes zipped and ready to go, but no place to upload/host them. Any free file hosting site recommendations welcome, or I could email them to someone else here who could post them.

NOTE: These were made by changing the location parameters using my 1920x1080 16:9 aspect ratio monitor. Don't know if that will make a difference using other resolutions or monitors.

Abigaile Johnson vs Vicky S starts now

12:00 P.M. Central European Summer Time (Paris Time Zone)

This is a first to 10 challenge

@blackshadow008's vote is counted

Abigaile Johnson

Abigaile Johnson 1

Vicky S 0

My vote is also for Abigaile Johnson

Abigaile Johnson 2

Vicky S 0