I got it. I'm looking forward to getting the SEC.

@cygnusx1 You understand perfectly. A: Buy a month of cards of which you want the SEC and likely don't want a large portion of the other December releases with the Advent Calendar. B: Play 500 credits for 50 scratch cards which will get you Jia and some other stuff you want and don't want, along with some credits back for a net spend less than 500 credits. C: Skip the December deals and gamble for a Joker later you can redeemfor any SEC. Or, D: Don't play at all and buy her other cards when they're released. There are gonna be like 6 Jia cards. This is only one.

I chose D. And I hope you come to the same conclusion. If no one takes these "deals," they'll stop doing special events cards. Boycott the system.

Oh, and D2. ***** about the system while you boycott it. I'm sure that the mods and Totem staff feel our ***** when they read the forum and would rather not experience the cognitive dissonance. But the money's too good for them as it stands. We can only vote with our cash.

Can someone verify that all cards available through gambling (besides SEC and Joker) are older? Usually these games only feature cards issued more than 60 days or so ago.

The only things I don't like with the scratsch game is the time it takes to scratch lot of cards.

But after 120 cards I was up if added correct 579 credits and had won a Joker and the latest SEC. And it was about the same the last time they had the scratsch game.

I bought 600 credits and ended up with the SEC and the Joker and about 30 solid to excellent cards for a net outlay of 150 credits. Well worth it imo.

After winning I just kept on playing mostly the slots just for fun. I stopped with 124 credits remaining. I now have 19 lottery tickets and 84 cards inclusive of 2 SEC cards and 1 Joker. The majority of the cards are 15 credit cards too, I would say about 20 are lower quality cards that I would not purchase otherwise.

SO I have 61 quality cards that on the regular 20% discount would have cost me over 700 credits. Plus one Joker card that I am holding onto for now. Plus 2 Special event cards that I would not have had otherwise. And I also have 20 extra cards that i can download and browse for fun that I never would have gotten to view because I would never have bought them. Who knows there may be a few diamonds in the rough amongst them lol. And 19 lotto tickets to boot.

Fantastic deal no matter how you spin it. And I still have 124 credits remaining. But I am stopping while I am ahead.

@Boan000 not true, theres is a clear path too this events SEC and a joker, after 50 scratch cards you get the latests SEC then after 100 you get the Joker. The question really is, are these cards worth it? and of course you can and do win crdits back, can win other random cards, and of ourse there is the chance of winning other SEC that you dont own yet while you scratch away too your goal

The other gambling games also count as progress to obtaining this events SEC and the JOker, dunno how, i only played the scratch cards. My goal was the SEC i did not own, and the scratchgame seems to be the only one for that

You gotta ***** credits bro. It’s the only way lol. I need help too😆

The house always wins.

The only way you can win is not to participate, the more sukkers fall for this the more they will run these games.

They run these games because you keep playing them.
Don't really care. I can well afford the 50 credits net that it cost me particularly as I have gained 640 credits from 2 reloads.

I have no need to play anymore but I may well do another reload before th 3rd DEC. It should give me enough credits to last until next November.

You haven't actually gained anything though, you have just spent money.


@jonnBGood

The more a few people pump thousands of credits into gambling games the more totem will run them, they are a buisness after all. Look what has happened in the computer gaming because of the whales that pump thousands into games. Game after game ruined by microtransactions and gambling, then look at how some of those games have failed (battlefront 2 comes to mind).

If people carry on like this i wouldn't be surprised if every TGIF becomes a gambling game with a special event card and that will drive customers away. I have seen posts where people have gotten sick of being milked and said they will never buy again so my saying it will drive customers away is not hyperbole. As more customers are driven away they will have to resort to price hikes, and even more egregious gambling.

I won't blame totem for this, the blame rests on those who spend hundreds if not thousands of credits to get 1 card.

"surprise mechanics"

I threw in the towel after the first “SEC” was offered..think it was the Genebra Bellucci bikini card soaping her hot body up. I gave up after only losing 5 credits! I am not a gambler... won’t even play the lottery. I’ve accepted to just buy the cards I’m able to buy at the normal price I can get them for. As they say... it is what it is

I've searched long and hard but find no CLEAR explanation on how to buy special event cards. how can i buy Jia Lissa's special card????? I don't understand how I might have to spend $10-$20 or $30 worth of cards I don't want to MAYBE get a special event card. Please help.

It shows 15,165 Members total....That's Total. Imagine trying to keep this site, hireing Models etc... Less then probably a third are active. How many of those are paying customers? C'mon...Dude they are probably barely making it. We sit here and critisize and they are probably like WTF do they want? We are trying and they just keep telling us how unfair it is...etc...Just one dudes opinion

The house always wins.

The only way you can win is not to participate, the more sukkers fall for this the more they will run these games.

They run these games because you keep playing them.

Don't really care. I can well afford the 50 credits net that it cost me particularly as I have gained 640 credits from 2 reloads.

I have no need to play anymore but I may well do another reload before th 3rd DEC. It should give me enough credits to last until next November.

How many customers you think Totem has? do the Math they HAVE to keep running these bro. I for one enjoy the different types of things they do. Totem add a poker game if you ever get the chance.😜

The house always wins.

The only way you can win is not to participate, the more sukkers fall for this the more they will run these games.

They run these games because you keep playing them.

@TheEmu

And, you are 100% certain to get this week's SEC if you buy 50 scratch cards irrespective of what you may also win by playing those cards.
Is that true or a joke? If it's true the game is rigged.

No - it is the way the game works.

Everty time you buy 10 scratchcards you gain 1 Lottery Ticket entry and progress 1 space on the progress bar. After 50 scratchcards you reach Jia's card on the progress bar and it is yours. After 100 scratchcards you get to the joker.This is irrespective of what you win on the scratchcards.

@boan000 I feel you bro. I wouldn't say completionists are losers, but I do feel like the SEC system makes for more unhappy customers than happy ones. Sure there's an occasional thrill for the gamblers, and dissapointment in even larger measure for the losers, but those of us who chose not to play are guaranteed regret, even though we know that our actions are optimally rational.

For me to spend 500 credits on 50 scratch cards wouldn't be a big deal because I'm doing quite well financially, but I refuse to participate in this system.

If no one participated, they'd get rid of the SECs. But I don't see that happening because it's a collective action problem. We'd all have to boycott at once, but individually we're greedy.

@TheEmu

And, you are 100% certain to get this week's SEC if you buy 50 scratch cards irrespective of what you may also win by playing those cards.

Is that true or a joke? If it's true the game is rigged.

In my experience, gamblers cannot be dissuaded. There is money to be made, and when you offer them the opportunity, they bite. Totem is encouraging a feeding frenzy. Selective customers who hold on to their credits are not as profitable.

The non-gambler will always be more profitable in the long run. Even a VAST majority of lottery winners end up more broke by winning the lottery than if they had never tried in the first place. A customer/service interaction starts in an ***** manner. A company provides a wonderful service to a customer who then trades a object of equal value. The most beautiful girls in the world dancing and teasing for 13/16/25 credits each.

The gambler wants to gain a thing of great value for nothing and by nature is attempting to take advantage of others. Ironically the "house" is a greater gambler who has control of the entire situation and dictates that they will receiev a thing of value that is vastly greater than the service they provide, if they even provide a service at all. Ethics on a porn forum is a itself a morass but gambling is unethical as are the consequences. I would prefer that totem not take advantage of people who wish to take advantage of totem but in a world where we can steal porn whenever we want it is probably small potatoes.

I forgot to add to my previous post that the Reload Bonus is part of this Black Friday's offers. That is an effective extra 20% discount that we full collection owners can benefit from. Combining the Triple Diamond discount, the Premium Discount and the Reload Bonus discount brings the overall discount up to just over 60% - what more do you want.

I set myself a limit how many credits I gamble with and this time I was very lucky;

I stopped after 98 scratch cards and a lot of spins.
I got 10 lottery tickets, the Jia Lissa SEC and the joker card.
I won 1 SEC of Skye Blue, 1 card, 2x 100 credits, 6x 50 credits and very often 10credits, a lot of 1 bonus credits in the scratch games.
I won 4 cards for 50%, a lot of one and two stars in the slot machine.

In the end I paid 0 credits.

@TallandSlimMan Time waster mainly. I turnd scratch into a drinking game. Have 10 models on sreen Move the main screen so it is about half and the girls take up the space so you can't cheat it then and scratch as many tickets as you can with out making one of them go Full Screen. One goes full size take a drink. Lather rinse repeat.

@TheEmu

Thanks...that would make sense.

@TallandSlimMan - I don't know about the Slot Machine but for the Scratch Card if you win a card but none is available then it is silently replaced by 10 credits. At least that is what was advertised last time and seems to be the case this time as well.

@boan000 - I have a full collection but do not feel that Totem have treated me at all badly with these events.

And, you are 100% certain to get this week's SEC if you buy 50 scratch cards irrespective of what you may also win by playing those cards. This is of course likely to be expensive (but there is a good chance that it will not be) but as far as obtaining the current SEC itself is concerned there is no gamble.

In my experience, gamblers cannot be dissuaded. There is money to be made, and when you offer them the opportunity, they bite. Totem is encouraging a feeding frenzy. Selective customers who hold on to their credits are not as profitable.

Why would anyone with an almost complete collection play these games? you cannot "win" a card unless it is a joker or SEC. Or does the Joker or SEC replace "winning" a card?

@HansSachs, sure, gamble away credits ten at a time... throw money to the wind and hope some of it sticks.

Once again, Totem has left us standing out in the cold. Our only hope of getting the special event cards is to gamble away BUKU credits with no hope of getting discounted cards and very little chance of winning a SEC.

I've seen nobody else ***** this year, so apparently nobody else is bothered, or everybody else has decided it is fruitless to speak. Are none of my compatriots who also have complete collections bothered by this? I saw Number 6 say he only spent a net of 50 credits and got the SEC and a joker, I think, but he spent 1000 credits to do that! That's a risk I cannot afford to take.

SInce Totem has once again turned its back on the long standing, loyal customer base, is it time for me to move on? I came super close last year at this time and thought for a while Totem was listening to the collectors. It appears I was wrong because this is just another repeat of last year. I spent a few months away, missed a few SECs (2 of which I want VERY badly), and now it looks like I will miss another since I do not want to throw dollar bills to the wind hoping one will stick. This is a MAJOR disappointment.

It wouldn't be so bad if the scratchoffs that would normally win discounted cards could be banked to be used on future cards, but there are only four SECs I lack (including the new Jia Lissa one), so the scratchoffs that might otherwise win are worthless.

A ballpark 'odds of winning' a SEC would be nice Totem, so I can better decide if gambling is a risk i want to take. And there needs to be another way for members with complete collections to get missing SECs than gambling away money a dollar at a time.

Clear and definite path(s) to get SECs, this time. Good.

I support the request for a return of Favorites feature.

You're welcome @boan000

Slots are fun but not really going to get anything out of it if you can't win cards and get the big percentages off.
Scratch cards are mainly for the special cards but I sit there and scatch away 1200 creds both today and yeasterday just out of boredom.

Anyone else over 400 Tickets for the lotto?

Check out her VR Stef. She is really something else. Joyful to behold

In my opinion, you could be well served with Anissa Kate in "Swim Team" 0434 and with the duo G.Belluci & A.Kate in "Mean Streak" 0437. For the second, I think in French it's more strong than in English.

@bamboombamm - people have quite often requested features that are already provided.

Oh, I get it, one of it is fixed, the "bonus" must also scratched.

Josephine Jackson is incredible with this outfit 😍😍 🔥🔥

Hi all, If you encounter any issues with our Black Fridays sales,please send us an email to : [email protected] Thank you

@Manue
sending e-mail shortly
two issues in some minutes :(

I don't how the slots works for lower tier users but all I get is cards I don't want. Getting a little boost in credits is always a good thing and to me the only reason to play slots. I believe I have hit 250X4 but I lost some it playing scratch and more slots.

@MJAdvocator

Will the "Coming soon" sticker appear on the image of the card?

If YES, then check the date and time settings on your computer.

If an error message relates to the settings of the Erotic Levels, then do the following:

• go to the settings
• activate the advanced settings
• go to the section DESKTOP
• change the level of erotism

If you have forgotten your password the website's support page has a way for you to ask for it to be recovered (I assume that it would involve Totem sending you an e-mail)

This is, for the most part correct.
You can't recover an Old forgotten Password,
but you will receive an E-mail that allows you to Create a new one.

So I read all these glowing posts about profits, and tried my "luck"...

50 cards purchased

201 credits "won" (299 credits down the drain)

12 cards "won", of which I might actually download 2

Not impressed. At all. I don't suppose I can even get credit reimbursement for the cards I wouldn't have touched with a bargepole?

Editid for arithmetical failure

Hi Manue, I looked for the pm but there is nothing !
I will sent an email to the adress above..

Hi all, If you encounter any issues with our Black Fridays sales,please send us an email to : [email protected] Thank you

@R2D34ever2 Hi, I have just sent you a PM : )

you are quick Hans .. I already deleted that after I saw where the card was...
Well I guess my luck was not enough then ...Just have to wait if the lottery brings me something nice..
Thnxs for the very quick reply...

@R2D34ever2

iS THERE ANYONE WHO WON THE 100 CREDITS WITH THE SCRATCH GAME ??

I can confirm that I won 100 credits at least one time playing with scratch game yesterday.

I completed the line only to get a new line but I can not see where the Joker card is.
Can I get some help with this please?

The Joker should now be the first card in your "My Collection" tab. Check for it.

I have the same problem as Bender110 , I have two times the Jia Lissa show..
Also i have a question.
iS THERE ANYONE WHO WON THE 100 CREDITS WITH THE SCRATCH GAME ??
I had the 100 credits text more then 10 times, only problem was that when I had it there were only TWO s'ses on the screen so no price..

Should the Jia Lissa, Clockwork Orange Style card play? I have won the card with the Black Friday Prize but only the clips will play individually (Only If I double click them, and not when as a part of the queue)

Nevermind, works as expected today (Not Yesterday..)

I miss much the vocal tease / dirty talk of many old Deskbabes cards.
It would be good to have some of it back in XXX cards, during table and XXX clips.