Just forget it. Ill take it as Ive spent 5k credits on this event, I got 3 SECs. I didnt get the SEC from this event.

Final word. SECs are expensive. You can win any SEC from this event. Good luck, god speed and dont gamble.

Can someone from the team answer this - The panel card say A special event card. Is winning only limited to a SEC 1 time or say if I had unlimited number of credits all SEC can be aqcuired from this one game. I know the game has glitches so im wondering if the people winning multiple SECs are glitches or is that by design.

My experience, 10 games 200 credits initially


But what is this empty entry? says i won a card, bit no card was even given.

Still no event card.

Yep, this is beyond ripoff. Learn from me. I have 220 credits left. Dont be like me.

@TheEmu
Thank you for your response in the other post. Very helpful :)

for 20 cerdits I do`t think so but thanks.

I've gotten to the point where I don't do the games at all! And most of the time, when a model releases a SEC and I can't get it I just stop buying her cards period! If I can't complete the set because of a SEC what's the point of buying anymore?! I save Creds and wait on new models!😈

VR180 show before a card release, is that a first ?
@haja , no cards, but bonus video is out !

I don't know if I should really approve of this sales tactic. Bitter aftertaste ... 😕

VR180 show before a card release, is that a first ?

No, with new models. usually the VR 180 show is released first, then the first card.

Seriously,
I really really like my beer!

MeToo 😀
"Guinness Clear" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY2BszNvBuE

Agatha Vega , wow.😛

VR180 show before a card release, is that a first ?

@haja , no cards, but bonus video is out !
https://www.istripper.com/fileaccess/video/agatha_vega/mo_1080_e1409.mp4

Everyone else has grabbed it in under 100. Im at 220. What does totem even say to this? This feels like highway robbery on my part.

No. This is called gambling addiction ... 😕

Seriously,
I really really like my beer!

I prefer track and field over rugby.
I prefer beer over wine.
I prefer slot machine over scratchers.

I will spend money on what I choose. I am not sure why there is much discussion. If you don't like it, don't spend money on it.

I do like my beer.

32 times i play to got this event card, and i see that another people spent much more than me and not get it, thank you very much, after that i will never participate in this kind of games.....
And not recomend for all users.
Yep Last moment i get 15 cards which i will never ever by for my collection from my whishlist nothing, thank you again.....

@lokiwilliam
I do not object, but whereever I can gamble ... lottery, casino, sports bet, the quotes are published or can be calculated. Here they are not.
The only way to find out is playing, or hoping that users are posting their experience.

BTW: according to @kaiju it seems the team is changing odds while the game is ongoing. From my 47 draws, 30 were played in afternoon, and the rest in evening. The evening quotes were better.

If that is indeed the case, that indeed is a ripoff.

@etheralspiral do you se how many cards you have in the girls store about 2815 cards in reserve well the system has that many cards to draw apon plus the 20credits & what ever to draw apon enjoy... Happy Easter

But this is for the SEC specificially. Ive pulled 2 other SEC's from the 2 cards option. Ive gotten 200 credits/100 credits multiple times. But getting -1- event card? Impossible.

220 cards x 20 credits is 4400 credits. Is any single card worth 4400 credits? Do the other cards even matter at this point? Id have rather have had you gouge me for 500 credits for the SEC and leave it at that.

At this rate its cheaper for me to start a second account, purchase the year for the free joker and get the SEC with the free joker and just log into that account to see the card then to spend 100, 150, 200 dollars on a card Im not even guarenteed to ever pull. There's no pity, I could hit 1000 scratch cards and never see it. It's not like we can get jokers from this event either. Im triple diamond, I have most of the cards I wanted already. So Im just throwing bad credits after bad credits.

Has anyone else spent 4400 credits to not get the event card yet?

I saw that too, but then the game works different as advertised.

Have you experienced someone else in the past few months / year? Something is always stuck in these oh so great games of chance. And then again a damn SEC every month. Congratulations totem, with this crap you become more and more unappealing to me. 😠

Maybe we need a re-branding then, instead of 'Special Event Cards' call them 'Exclusive Cards'?

For sure. They will then alternate every two weeks. In the second week of each month an "ExC" and, as has been the case for six months now, every fourth week an "SEC". Good day too ... 😐

To fight the Covid-19

At 153 scratches, 2x500 credit reloads later a bunch of credit won (but put back in the system), a SEC won that I didn't actually scratch off, and a bunch of cards I will be hiding with the handy new hide feature, good job team. Its pretty bad when the product's sheep actually looks around and says something not right here.....😢

Ive done 1 500 reload in my 220 scratch tickets bought. But after 220 games is it even worth it to keep trying? Sigh. Everyone else has grabbed it in under 100. Im at 220. What does totem even say to this? This feels like highway robbery on my part.

I ***** all of you who got the card. =( I cant justify playing more then 220 games now even tho not having a special card is ***** my soul.

@arise77
Believe that today was my lucky day.
Have you heard about the current ***** buying of food and other items in the UK?
I went shopping earlier today and there was no milk and bread in the first shop I tried.
Went into another shop in the same shopping centre and got one of the last loaves of bread but still no milk.
Just after I parked my car in my garage the delivery lorry for the local convenience store went past.
Walked to that shop, waited while it was unloaded and the last pallet off the lorry was milk.

Vinna Reed and Keana Moire (no garter belts in the costume - important criterium!)

@zzmaskers - You surely kept that. What are you doing with it, maybe repairing the alternator? 😀

@gkar45 wise decision. I got most SECs during last Black Friday scratch game, odds of getting them seemed to be higher at that time.
When I saw scratch cards were 20 cred each, I thought since they were more expensive odds would probably be higher. Wrong move.
I guess I'll pass future scratch games until we can definitly win something out of it, like a free SEC or joker card after scratching a certain number of cards.

@peterbanker ✌✌✌ glad for you, enjoy your new SEC, we gave hundreds of credits for you to have it! 😉😄

At 153 scratches, 2x500 credit reloads later a bunch of credit won (but put back in the system), a SEC won that I didn't actually scratch off, and a bunch of cards I will be hiding with the handy new hide feature, good job team. Its pretty bad when the product's sheep actually looks around and says something not right here.....😢

Well some of you might call me a lucky xxxxxxx
I bought 8 scratch cards
Two 20 credits wins
One 100 credits win
One 2 cards win
Won the SEC
So for 20 credits I got two cards and the SEC

Bonsoir,

Je passe mon tour je suis à jour dans la collectiondonc le jeu ne peux que me faire gagner des carte spéciales mais le pourcentage pour les avoir est trés trés faible voir inexistant.

Dommage que vous persistez dans cette voie.😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪😪

@gkar45 haha, I wish the masterminds behind these games were... 😆😈

@gkar45 I know, I'll get over it. Just venting. 😀 I guess I'm also disappointed because I fell in Totem's trap.

@Mover thanks for your feedback. I try not to ***** too much neither and offer solutions instead. Let's hope Totem is paying attention.

@Lokiwilliam ✌ good to see at least some of us could get the card fairly cheap.

@lokiwilliam
I do not object, but whereever I can gamble ... lottery, casino, sports bet, the quotes are published or can be calculated. Here they are not.
The only way to find out is playing, or hoping that users are posting their experience.

BTW: according to @kaiju it seems the team is changing odds while the game is ongoing. From my 47 draws, 30 were played in afternoon, and the rest in evening. The evening quotes were better.

I also have a full collection. I bought 10 cards for 200 credits.

The first scratch card, I won the new Stacy Cruz SEC. Over the next 9 Scratch cards I won 5 lots of 20 credits, and 2 lots of 100 credits.

In total I finished up 100 credits, plus the new SEC. This time I was Lucky, the last SEC i was down 300 credits overall before I won. Like any form of gambling, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. If you dont think the odds are in your favour, then don't play.

I had a feeling, odds were unfavourable in the recent scratch games, and stopped early limiting losses. This time I wanted know more precisely, and decided to play until the first major win, i.e., 100 credits (or more), or a special event card. This happened at draw #47 with 200 credits won.
Here is my personal result:
• 7 wins of 10 credits (I don’t quite understand why because this was not announced. I saw empty circles in these instances.)
• 20 wins of 20 credits
• 0 wins of 100 credits
• 1 win of 200 credits
• 0 wins of two cards
• 0 wins of special cards
Total spent: 940 credits. Total return: 670 credits. Total loss 270 credits or 30% of what I spent. Had I stopped any time earlier, the loss was rather 50%. For 270 credits, I alternatively could have purchased the next 25 cards published given my current customer level. I acknowledge one factor could be bad luck, but with close to 50 draws, I expect my quotes being not too far away from average. So far the experiment.

Now my personal conclusion: I have always liked this company, the product, and the people. I still do, but I consider these quotes fairly unfavourable, especially since true chances are unpublished. In my opinion any such game should be fun for the customer and rather give a bonus than a loss.
I understand the game is probably more attractive for customers with less cards in their collection, but then, couldn’t the company design the games to be attractive for all customers? I would have ideas ))))

@gkar45 yes I kinda got that 😉 was just asking Kaiju how this was supposed to make us feel better.

@goodwolf agreed, I should have read your post this morning. 😄

@imhorny5555 congrats! I'm glad for you.
Totem, why not give the same chances to everyone? If all the players could get the card after a certain amount of scratch cards, I'm sure more people would play and wouldn't mind spending a couple hundred credits on just one card.

I spent a ton of credits trying to get the Special Event card and not once did I get it. I got all of the other awards, but not that one. Something's not right.

Give me Stacy Cruz's Hard Candy!

The odds might have been "adjusted" since. There has been a stream of people ***** they couldn't get the card or other SECs since this morning, but suddenly hoardx comes and gets 2 SECs (including today's one) in 38 tries.

No offense @hoardx, I'm happy for you. Just it looks like it took all our ***** credits and complaints for other members to get it faster.

As a full collection user I spent 1000 credits on 50 scratch cards, got the SEC and won back 740. A loss of 260 credits about covers the free bonus credits I gained from buying the bulk credit offers from awhile ago.

Not saying it was worth it but I got out easy.

It was a long time that I have not gambled. But this time I believed in my luck and I can say I was lucky. 38 attempts (760 credits spent), 460 credits back, 16 new cards (with Harley parodic show from Estonika more expansive than the others), 2 special event cards with Hard Candy. And I stopped immediatly when I won the SEC of my beloved Stacy Cruz ! That was the goal and I'm very happy ! Very lucky this time too...

Stay home and stay away from the casinos :)

As a long time member I dare to give advice to the company.
I simply don't play gamble games anymore, so there is no problem with me.
But in these quarantine times, generally speaking, people obviously tends - and will tend more and more - to be more angry and susceptible than usual.
My advice is not to pushing too much, during these times, on gamble games and exclusive cards, which have always been controversial among users. Not so few people could get really angry this time, even with few or no reasons, and stop using this software.

I agree in general and especially in these times! I believe that Totem's policy with the gaming and the Special Event Cards is a ***** - especially for long time members and collectors - I wrote this in the forum for several times!

Hi @kaiju,
thanks for your reply, however you will agree there's not much fun in getting cards you don't particularly want for over double the price (as I explained, spending 480 credits for what is normally 227 credits worth of cards).

How exactly will you adjust the odds for credits we've already spent?

I hope you, the team and everybody stay safe too. Take care.

Hi
The scratch card price doesn't take in account your VIP status. For many members, this is very advantageous, even with 720P card.
The gains are calculated so the cards cost cheaper than if you bought them individually but sometimes the odds are not for the benefit of a particular client.

Our goal is to provide you with fun, not frustration.So we'll try to figure out how to adjust the odds to avoid as much as possible the kind of situation you described.

I'll keep you posted.

Have a great weekend guys. Stay safe.

So what you're saying is veteran members shouldn't play these games? OK, got it :(

LOL --- Another Gambling game in the middle of CoViC-19 and people have LOST everything even there jobs and you want MORE shame on you Totem... GoodBye....

• I'll come back when you smarten the hell up!

This site is pretty helpful for that. https://www.isworkshop.eu/

She's hot don't get me wrong. And she's hot enough for me to participate this one time, but for the most part, it's not worth it. It's gambling, yes, and casinos make a ***** ton of money off of people who play these types games, but this isn't a casino and it isn't really the best business model tbh.

idk, that's just me venting. I'm probably butthurt lol

Thanks

This site is pretty helpful for that. https://www.isworkshop.eu/

She's hot don't get me wrong. And she's hot enough for me to participate this one time, but for the most part, it's not worth it. It's gambling, yes, and casinos make a ***** ton of money off of people who play these types games, but this isn't a casino and it isn't really the best business model tbh. Eventually, enough people might disklike it enough for them to change what they do.

idk, that's just me venting. I'm probably butthurt lol

What I don't understand is they want us to dumb a bunch of money on the slim chance of getting a "special" card.. How about giving us a preview so we can see if we even want the damn thing.

I pretty much never do these because I know how much money they make and how much I will waste, but since I'm stuck indoors, I set a limit on how much I wanted to spend/make back in "prize credits." I got 54 scratch cards and didn't win the Special Event Card.

Hi
The scratch card price doesn't take in account your VIP status. For many members, this is very advantageous, even with 720P card.
The gains are calculated so the cards cost cheaper than if you bought them individually but sometimes the odds are not for the benefit of a particular client.

Our goal is to provide you with fun, not frustration.So we'll try to figure out how to adjust the odds to avoid as much as possible the kind of situation you described.

I'll keep you posted.

Have a great weekend guys. Stay safe.

I am totally against the Special Event Cards! I wrote this in the forum for several times. It is really disappointing that you will never have the chance to buy one of them. If they call the sampling of model cards collection, they don't think that it is absurd that collectors cannot complete their collections of their favorite models because those Special Event Cards exist. They declared that you can get the Special Event Cards on top of the regular! But this is a statement without any worthy sense! They should give collectors the chance under certain conditions (sampled number of cards, state of membership, number of complete collections). Maybe it is not totally hopeless that Totem makes up its mind. I am sure that I won't play games with a waste of credits to get one of the Special Event Cards!
Keep safe and uninfected by the Corona-Virus!

I would like to suggest that during ths week where we are all self isolated why dont we have the SEC cycle through our previews at a higher cost. Many of us will be on the program this week as we are at home and this for sure would create a high volume of sales. I know there is an offer for the Live Girls but I think an offer like this would go a long way to settling an issue that has caused a lot of angst over the last couple of years and certainly keep many of us occupied and focused on these ladies vice all that is happening in the world around us.

Paris is on lockdown...there is no way they are going to give cards away for a standard price, even 10x the original. They are going to be relying on special event cards and promotions to get them through to August. They have two months of cards but that only gets us to June, and France will still be near the peak of the pandemic at that point, hopefully on the downward part of the curve. Sadly I am afraid that more cards than usual are going to become "special" as they have nothing to lose at this point. They will be ***** money once their last cards run out.

Oh I know, trust me. I find it actually a bit funny now. I guess 2 votes for the new SEC is telling as to how many people are winning them in this weeks game.

Dare to dream, dare to dream....