I spend nearly 700 credits on the mystery enveloppes today, no SEC card.
Normally when there was a event to win a SEC card it would be just the scratch games for 10 credits each, but now it costs a LOT more for a single chance to win, 50-60 credits for a change to win, in my case.

I like the SEC cards, I don't mind spending a lot of credits to obtain them.
I do not like the jump in price making it 5-6 times more expensive compared to previous events, or are they also 5-6 times more likely to win in this event?

I still have a joker card and I could use it to complete my "SEC collection", but if the SEC cards are going to be more frequent and so much more expensive to obtain, I will hold on to my joker until one of my absolute favorite models will have an unexpected SEC card.

So in short, will we see more regular SEC cards and will they be as costly to obtain as through the Mystery Envelopes?

I won't be playing this game because I don't like the odds (especially as as per usual the odds are not published).

I have around 600 cards in my collection and the vast majority are of girls that I personally find attractive. If I don't find a girl attractive or I don't like the outfit, I don't buy the card.

But in this game - for just a 20% discount - I have no visibility of what card from the remaining 3,000+ could be included (and it could so easily be a girl I don't like). Then I have to gamble that the scratch card is a winner (which it easily could not be) and even if it allocated an SEC card I have no control over which card I would be given (and it would only be Eva that I want).

At least with the Goose game you could see the cards that were available and, once you won the Tanya card, the free card became one from your wishlist.

I'll just have to wait for a game with better odds to try to get the Eva card.

20% for a package of 5 cards, which I cannot even see, is alone not a good offer. If I'm not in a hurry I could wait for a 20% offer and decide if I like the set. There I know which sets I get and can skip any I don't want.
With the scratch cards I could win something, but what are the chances to get back more than a few credits?
First scratch was a 0 so I stopped playing.

For me it's a bad combination of a big package for a moderate discount with gambling at a little chance to win something special. If it's about discounts, I would expect more for sets I cannot see and if it's about gambling, it's too expensive.

This is my first time to comment in my long membership period. I usually don't post, but I do really want to say my frustration about SEC.

I think board games for SEC are okay, it usually costs some decades of credits to win the goal card. But the winning percentage for SEC of scratch games and mystery envelopes, in short, just random games is terribly bad.

Once I won a SEC in scratch game, I had to pay about 500 credits. Next time I paid more than 200 or 300 credits, I wasn't able to won a SEC and I gave up. After that I don't want to play just random games.

I think most heavy users have full or most cards, so play these games for only SEC, it costs TOO MUCH.

Should Celine and Rex try these games with your money, you whould understand what I'm saying.

Luck was with me today, got Eva Elfie on the first scratch off.
Kept playing and won alot of 5&10 credits, at the end I spent
65 credits but it was fun.
@Celine
Thanks for the change to give us all a chance to win the SEC.

For a couple of VR Virgins 😆 is there a recommended VR Headset?
I have the Oculus Rift S for the PC and I think it works great.... Im sure the Oculus Quest works good as well (my son has one for gaming) All the VR shows here work great on the Rift. Im not sure about the other sets, but no problems with my Oculus....

Thank you @Vortim for the advice.

No mystery for me, if I pay it's for cards I can see first, and if not I want want the right to refund cards I don't wan't because :
1. I don't want them (my excuses ladies)
2. Search a card over 1000+ cards is really a ***** in the (...) for god sake!

Mystery enveloppe + Scratch card is double ***** in the (...) and I'm out of this event, make a viable way to obtain joker card or S.E.C.. Goose game has drain so much credit out of my pocket already and you put that ***** (...) combination behind it !!! THAT'S TOO MUCH!!!
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Pas de mystère pour moi, si je paye pour une carte il faut que je la voit d'abord, sinon il faut que j'ai le droit de revendre les cartes que je ne veux pas, car:
1.Je n'en veux pas (Mes excuses mesdames)
2.Chercher une card parmi 1000 ou plus est extremement penible pour l'amour de dieu!!!

Enveloppe mystère + Carte à gratter est doublement penible and laissez moi hors de cet evenement, créer un façon viable d'obtenir des cartes Jokers ou des C.E.S.. Le jeu de l'oie à déjà extrait un somme plus que suffisante d'argnet de ma poche et vous ajouter cette combinaison infâme derrière !!! C'EN EST TROP !!!

PS:
All S.E.C. I have not and will make things difficult when i'll try to obtain new ones (here again these ladies have no responsabilities in that trouble)
Toutes les C.E.S. que je n'ai pas et qui vont rendre difficile l'obtention de nouvelles ( encore une fois ces dames n'ont aucune responsabilité dans ce problème)

Well i guess @lukaszr can no longer give us heads up about SEC's on his site because this is news to me!

these are the only ones I need

For me too

which one did you get ?

Kaisa Nord
I prefered Eva Elfie, but I take what I get.😉

Ellie Leen makes me crazy like that 😵 💖💖💖

ATTENTION PLEASE: to all of you who can't purchase Mystery Envelopes because you already own all the shows available :
Quit & relaunch your software: now you can purchase envelopes @5 credits with only a scratch game inside !
Good luck!

So basically, SEC stands for Super Expensive Card?

• If you don't have a full collection you can get the card by spending thousands of credits.
• If you have already spend the thousands of credits you can get the card quite easy.

I played 10 scratch cards and won a SEC. Payed just 10credits so far.

1 Joke should get you like 5 regualr cards...Thoughts?

I played 10 scratch cards and won a SEC. Payed just 10credits so far.

Can someone tell me how to find girls that if deleted will be gone forever like nikki chase et al.? Since they changed the settings I forgot.

Hmmm. The announcement said:

ATTENTION PLEASE: to all of you who can't purchase Mystery Envelopes because you already own all the shows available: for you the envelopes are at @5 credits and contains only a scratch game !

Could this be another case of a TGIF that wasn't properly tested?

I don't buy cards I don't want and I suspect the chance of winning a SEC is so low that it wouldn't be worth trying. Even if I qualified for the 5 credit option, I wouldn't play.

I know a SEC is by definition special
Not the card is special. It's the way to get the card that is special and in this case unobtainable.

SEC stands for Special Event Card. There is no theme, cosplay, significant date or even event. This is a card that is by the looks of it a average tuesday release. Hell Tanya Bahtina card's would have been a better canidate for SEC release.

ATTENTION PLEASE: to all of you who can't purchase Mystery Envelopes because you already own all the shows available :
Quit & relaunch your software: now you can purchase envelopes @5 credits with only a scratch game inside !
Good luck!

Yeah, I'm another premium member who can't even buy a scratch card because, apparently, I've bought too many model cards to be eligible to play. Way to reward your best customers, totem.

I see no comments/reviews of the latest Eva Elfie card yet...hmmm, interesting...

That's not a surprise at all... card is practically unattainable without using a Joker...

Yep! me too. I'm just SO glad I got the Anything Else maid card from her..I'm good with that
@Nebal The good news is Eva's Nier Cosplay is coming soon so I'm excited for that! If that had been SEC I'd be genuinely upset.

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Yep! me too. I'm just SO glad I got the Anything Else maid card from her..I'm good with that

@Nebal The good news is Eva's Nier Cosplay is coming soon so I'm excited for that! If that had been SEC I'd be genuinely upset.

And also, I would ask please to get back the possibility to watch previews of SECs. What is the reason for us not being able to do?

I hardly ever comment, but have a large collection and have managed to obtain all of the SECs so far.

This one in particular is very frustrating for those of us that have large, almost (if not fully) complete collections. The current TGIF offer makes this one completely unobtainable as others have said.

Very disapointed, especially when the SEC is of a model the calibur of Eva Elfie. Heres hoping that we are giving an option to actually acquire this card.

We hear your frustration being unable to acccess the scratch game (and get a chance to win Jia Lissa's new SEC) because you have all the shows in your collection ! Give us a moment please !

Thank you @celine for responding. It's nice to know you're hearing us.

Hopefully, you will give us a solution soon. We're waiting with anticipation.

I was planning on purchasing Eva Elfie Cuddling Up, but I am fine with missing out as its not even the most anticipated show from her for me.

Yep! me too. I'm just SO glad I got the Anything Else maid card from her..I'm good with that

Amaseing what you people allowed/approved them to do to you...PRICELESS. It's not the same when it affects you now is it ?

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I'm hoping SEC each month does not become the norm. I really don't want to try to gamble my way getting cards. I'd rather have a set price where I can decide whether its worth it or not to purchase (like how some SEC are a pre-order) . I also don't like filling my collection with cards I won't use probably when I didn't choose them, so if I did get a SEC card from the envelop, theres a chance it won't be the one I wanted while playing.

I'm more than willing to skip playing this, but I feel like there should be more options available to triple diamond users in terms of obtaining Special Event Cards. I'm honestly surprised premium members are not even offered a joker card. If a Joker card was offered with Premium Membership, I'd probably have more incentive to subscribe to it.

I was planning on purchasing Eva Elfie Cuddling Up, but I am fine with missing out as its not even the most anticipated show from her for me.

And I do think its a major flaw in the mystery envelop where you can't participate if you have all the cards/shows already if what other members have said is true.

Amaseing what you people allowed/approved them to do to you...PRICELESS. It's not the same when it affects you now is it ?

Adding my dissatisfaction to other comments here.

Not even giving your best and longest customers an opportunity to get the SEC card is a shabby way to reward your longtime customers.

If anything, making it easier for your best customers would make more sense.

We hear your frustration being unable to acccess the scratch game (and get a chance to win Jia Lissa's new SEC) because you have all the shows in your collection ! Give us a moment please !

Here is the next one................

With No clear way to win it

You have to buy "Mystery Envelopes", which contain a bunch of cards you have previously chosen not to buy. There is also a scratch card in the envelope with a chance (the % of which remains unspecified) to win the SEC

If you already have all of the cards, then I guess you'll just have to use a Joker card, or stop buying shows until you have enough gaps in your collection to start playing the gambling games again

SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?????????

I see no comments/reviews of the latest Eva Elfie card yet...hmmm, interesting...

They do not seem to want our money.

Seems so, I would scratch some cards and if I win something (the SEC would be great) it's good and if not it's ok too.
In this case I don't even use my Joker card.

They only want our best...
Our money.

But in the case of those of us with full or almost full collections they won't even allow us to pay for the privilege of gambling for this SEC. They do not seem to want our money.

I have accepted the existance of SECs.

• BUT a SEC without a clear path to get it and only obtainable via gamble is not good, for me and many others. Moreover, it's the second time of such a thing in two months...
• By the way, is a SEC going to be released each month? (It would look to me a little too much - 6 of them as on last year would be more than enough)
• Third, it's becoming almost impossible to get them: we can get now just one scratch card for 40 credits spent (93 in the case of low level members) when we may need even hundreds of scratch cards prior to get the SEC. Not to count that people who already own all other released cards were even excluded from the game.

I understood that SECs are needed for the sustainablity of Istripper, but I also think that things are going a little too far now...

After the prechecked boxes 'offer' this ***** behavior towards loyal customers. Totem's current sales strategy is very unappealing to me. This SEC story is simple ... I prefer not to say it.

I really do want to understand what they are thinking,

They only want our best...
Our money.

What is most infuriating of all is that @celine and @Rex tend to ignore these comments. I really do want to understand what they are thinking, but they seem more interested in just letting us rage.

Well actually the E in SEC stands for Event. I must be missing what the Special Event is on 21st February.

So true, that's what I've been wondering as well... I can cope with SEC for Christmas or something like that and you can get them via a special event game but this seems to get out of hand.

Well, a happy 'We haven't released a Special Event Card yet this month' day to you anyway.

I must be missing what the Special Event is on 21st February.

For us there is no event.😪

I know a SEC is by definition special
Not the card is special. It's the way to get the card that is special and in this case unobtainable.

Well actually the E in SEC stands for Event. I must be missing what the Special Event is on 21st February.

I know a SEC is by definition special

Not the card is special. It's the way to get the card that is special and in this case unobtainable.

@cdub87

That is not true - some of us can not eeven buy a single envelope so we have no way even to gamble for this SEC.

You can win the SEC but its has a high cost of buying multiple evelopes for a CHANCE to when a SEC. Even a blind sleep like me is starting to question the shepard. I know a SEC is by definition special but at the end of the day pussy is pussy and it all has a price. And these prices are starting to get outrageous.

Not if you own ALL the shows. For those of us who have spent THOUSANDS of dollars on iStripper, we can't even participate in this promotion, meaning NO SEC CARD FOR US.

It is the 21st February. Is there a 'Special Event' today that I am unaware of? The card is clearly described as a SPECIAL EVENT CARD.

You can win the SEC but its has a high cost of buying multiple evelopes for a CHANCE to when a SEC. Even a blind sleep like me is starting to question the shepard. I know a SEC is by definition special but at the end of the day pussy is pussy and it all has a price. And these prices are starting to get outrageous.

This will also make the next Hall of Fame in the next few days interesting as only those people who have banked a Jiker card will have been able to buy the card and complete their set :)
I have a Joker card left, but I'm not willing to spend it now, when I now totem will find a new way to screw me and other members with full collections.

I spent my JOKER card on another promotion where there was NO OTHER WAY for me to get an SEC.

For those of us with MASSIVE collections (I have over 4,400 cards now), we should be able to purchase JOKER cards. Please make this misery stop @Rex, @Celine!

This will also make the next Hall of Fame in the next few days interesting as only those people who have banked a Jiker card will have been able to buy the card and complete their set :)

I have a Joker card left, but I'm not willing to spend it now, when I now totem will find a new way to screw me and other members with full collections.

250 credits for a pack of 10 JOKER cards
That's a lot to cheap. Maybe 250 credits for ONE Joker card.
They make more money with the crap gambling games and screwing Premium members with full collections.

In total, yes ... but not per member.

Currently, I get cards for around 11 credits thanks to my discounts (Triple Diamond and PREMIUM). Paying 25 credits per JOKER would be more than TWICE the usual price.

But, if you insist - then price the JOKER cards at 50 CREDITS each, make them only available to PREMIUM members and discount them to the member level.