@gkar45 - you took your time responding to @bigcol21 - it has been approximately 11 years since he made the post you seem to be replying to.

don't worry we'er in good hands we got the showroom.👍

I sure hope this doesn't become a ***** match. That might get a little messy.

I wouldn't want to be the one cleaning up.

Depends on the situation, I tend to not get pissy at people trying to clarify things so yeah.

Well, as the OP, I tend to think of the thread as comments on the original topic;
Any kind of preface to a diatribe or fulmination looks off kilter, out of place as we lack the means within the forum to branch.
It's like butting in on someone elses input with something completely unrelated, thus sending the message that your thoughts, ideas or input is more important.
Sometimes a few posts happen, it's the way that new topics are born. Inflexibility breeds stagnation, but to constantly ***** something into the long grass either willfully or otherwise could be seen as incredibly disrespectful.

But what do I know? ;)

Well, you might want to consider taking your own advice.

Just sayin’

@stefnev1 - just what is your problem with "off topic" posts that branch naturally from a thread? This particular side branch follows naturally from a point in an on topic post. Unless Totem change the forum to support replying to individual posts so that we have a forest of trees of posts rather than a bunch of simple linear threads this is going to happen over and over again. It is a pity that the tree model is no longer the common paradigm as it was 20 or 30 years ago, but we have to make do with the limitations of what we are provided with.

No issue, was asking for clarification dude, chill out.

And this is the very last season of off-topic, thank you.

What is your issue Cw ???

I’m talking about the pics of spam cans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRv7EjjwYBI

If you are talking about the Spam can post, meh I guess from a moderator PoV I can agree

If you are talking about the discussion of exclusives, I was gonna hold off until the next one before diving back into the shitstorm, but there were certain points made here I just felt like giving my opinion on and will do again if others show up. So that's just my headsup

Season 11 had 10 episodes and season 10 a couple of years earlier had 6 episodes. But my point is that they are not old by any reasonble interpretation of the word. In any case in the UK a full series is often only 6 episodes, sometimes even less.

WARNING: You enter an off-topic zone. Please turn around and go back.

Wasn’t X-Files 2018 like a mini series ? A mere six episodes ? Or was it eight ?

or is X Files to 'old fashioned'? ;)

well series 11 was only transmitted for the first time last year - so if you consider 2018 'old' then yes - but otherwise no.

Unfortunately it does look like there will be no series 12.

I could have used an Agent Fox...

... or is X Files to 'old fashioned'? ;)
Maybe she could have looked into the mystery of why some of her cards have gone so... exclusive. It's clearly a ponzi pyramid scheme! X)

Maybe a Take 4?

Fox... a rabbit. Rabbit... a Fox! :)

So... why do I not see that card in my store???

Edit; The XXX was switched off X)

Seems like we’ve had enough Spam to last at least a few days. Let’s give it a rest, please.

Thank You

I was about to add a note to my previous post

Near the end of the second article I kinked to occurs the statement "alligators have a permanently erect penis connected to a bungee cord."

I just got "Jessica Rabbit" and I am no longer pining for The Black Fox😍😆

iStripper
$14.99 = 100 credits = 4 istripper VR (24 credits each)

Others Websites dedicated to VR porn
$9.99 - $14.95 (if you look carefully for discounts)
Full access to 300+ VR videos

It is obvious where my money goes

Totem, your VR videos are way TOO expensive, even with the special discount.
btw, what is the deal with the oversaturated colors in your videos?

Wait! Do birds even have weenies?

Most do not but a few species do - these include ducks, geese, ostriches and emus!. The following is a spectacular example.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2001/09/14/366856.htm

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2013/06/06/how-chickens-lost-their-penises-ducks-kept-theirs/

It's a hard (ha ha) flavour to find.
We can also make Wyld Weenie and Orangutan Weenie and even Big Bird Weenie flavours. Wait! Do birds even have weenies?

@Wyldanimal

Then we will have to disagree as to what are the essential part of the offers and what are cosmetic differences. The things that you point out as differences are to me but ***** factors - variations on the theme of "buy all of these cards and get this exclusive card free". Admittedly the "***** factors" make the offers look different, but do not, for me, change their fundamental nature - at least not in the context of the discussion here about the "evils" of exclusive cards in these offers. In other contexts I might be more inclined to agree with you.

@lukaszr

yes, it is the 3rd time for a monthly Pre-Order,
but only the 2nd time, that an Exclusive card was the Attraction...

Which, is what all the Yelling and Screaming is about...
I don't think any of the Members *****, Has anything at all to do with the Per-Order offer...
but everything to do with there being an Exclusive card attached to the Offer..

So in that light...

this is only the 2nd time...

@TheEmu

...I regard the month's pre-purchase and the advent calendars as relatively ***** variations

I disagree, the attraction of the Advent Calendar was the
1) opening of each days window to See what your Card was
2) getting the Cards a Day early, before they went on sale.
3) the Free Exclusive Bonus card
4) not having to jump online to buy a card every day
this was a full 25 day long fun event, everyday, you had something to open.

The Monthly Pre-Pay has only two Incentives
1) not having to jump online to buy a card every day
2) the Exclusive Bonus card
this is more like a Subscription, than it is a fun Event...
in fact there is no event to it.... no member interaction...


Very different in my view...
One was an event that attracted members to participate daily...
the other is just a glorified subscription.

But as I said before...
I wish this was an Every Month event. ( not meaning that there would be an exclusive bonus card,
but just the Prepay option...)
Especially if it was coupled with the Reload Bonus offer.

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And lastly, just to be Clear...
iStripper would Never, make Every Card produced by a Model an Exclusive card, as suggested by
@CrackCrazy

I own 14 Red Fox cards, 4 of which are "xxx". I passed on the latest "Fox" opportunity, figuring why pay for close to 30 cards that I may not want for one I would like. In another way to think of this, if every Red Fox card required a month of cards purchased unseen, that would be over 400 cards!

Every Card of a Single model will Never be made as Exclusive cards.
it will never happen.

That, is the Scenario that I was referring too, as being way off base....

I don't care if they do an Exclusive card every month for 24 months...
It will never be Every card of a Single Model. never....

Suggesting that iStripper would make Every Card of a Single Model an exclusive offer,
Yes, to me, that is spreading False *****,

This is only the 2nd time the Monthly Pre-Order has been Offered.

Isn't it the 3rd Pre-Order?
First in February, when the 20% off was offered,
Second in April, when the 20% off and Special Event Card was offered (e1156 - Josephine Jackson - Tartan Cutie),
Third in July, when Special Event Card was offered (f0523 - The Red Fox - Black Fox).

So far, additional discounts were available each time the pre-order was available. I also expected a 20% discount this time. I was surprised that this time there is no discount. It stopped me from buying it.

@Wyldanimal

The Advent Calendars were different, yes, and I should not have called them pre-purchase offers (though we did have that option with both of them - and I and others used it on day 1) but they were not completely different. The Advent Calendars and the simple pre-purchase offers have had the common feature of needing to buy a lot of cards - 24 in the case of the Advent Calendars and 30 or 31 for a month's pre-purchase - in order to get the extra exclusive card. It is this need to buy cards that you would not otherwise bother with that some (not me) seem to be objecting to.

I regard the month's pre-purchase and the advent calendars as relatively ***** variations on the theme of offering an exclusive card as an inducement to buy a large large package of the current month's cards.

The Advent Calendars were a completely different event.
This is only the 2nd time the Monthly Pre-Order has been Offered.

With the advent Calendar, it was purchase 24 cards, or the Balance of the 24 cards if you already had purchased them day to Day.
Members who Purchased it, had up till the 24th day to join in.
If a member joined in early, then they Got the Daily card a Day Ahead of the Store.
Plus the 25th card Free, which was an Exclusive card, not for sale in the store.

The Monthly Pre-order is different.
You pay for the full month of cards up front.
Participation has a cut off date limited to the first week of the month.
Members don't receive the cards a day early.

While yes, it is similar, it is still a different event, and shouldn't be grouped with the Advent Calendar Events.

You want to call it a bonus that you get a card you cant get any normal way is just market *****.

Of course its "market *****" - as are the regular discounts depending on how many cards you already have and the discounts on pushed previews.

And getting the extra card is the bonus - not its simple existance.

P.S. In my previous post I should have said it has been one and a half years, not two and a half, since the first Advent Calendar.

Just woke up, didn't read all this thoroughly, got work soon. Just gonna say what I feel.

Why the *****? Because it's bullshit to certain members. I am equally baffled by your adamant will to defend it, but I am sure you have your reasons -_-. You can call it *****, fustration, annoyance, vindictiveness, contempt, whatever you want to call it. Call it whatever you want, I don't care. I will acknowledging any negative feelings you see it as. As far as false scenerios, I've seen the other side throw their own together so dont pull that pot and kettle crap.

You want to call it a bonus that you get a card you cant get any normal way is just market *****. It's not a bonus, it would be a bonus if you can get it normally at ANY POINT down the road, but it sure as hell isn't a bonus here as it is an incentive.

Finally this whole, "It's great for those who buy all the cards anyways?" and "It's a great deal, like the subcription base stuff"

The first, the fact that you can quickly acknowledge how well this deal works for others, tell me how would it work out less for them if Blackfox could have been purchased normally along with the rest of the cards? Sure maybe the one click buy offered some ***** convience but that's hardly any difference. Now for those who do not collect every card, this does not work for us because and telling us to "Just pass on it" is throwing the concern under the rug. If we just pass on it, then we wont beable to buy it normally still rather we will more than likely have to get it on a game of chance and risk dumping more credits and still have the possibility of getting cards we wouldn't want (not a false scenerio)

And then comparing it to subscritions?

1. Didn't they offer a discount to all card? It's been awhile and I've never done them so I could be wrong on this one, but I can't help but remember that they did. I can finish this point if this is confirmed, but wanna make a note of it here

2. Something I know subscriptions did was not lock you out of a card only for you to get it from a game of chance later.

If they released them as limited timed exclusives then I wouldn't care TBH. I can wait, if I don't like the deal, and I will participate if I do. I would have done Josephine Jacksons regardless cause I honestly thought it was a good deal at the time of release, and if this one offered similar discounts I prolly would not feel so much buyers remorse from participating in it.

Finally, let's be honest, these exclusive cards are becoming insanely common. By the Christmas even last year we only had three winthin a year time frame. Now within a half a year we gotten three more. How did we go from getting 3 within a 3 to now having 3 within a half year?

Everyone has their own taste but I will show you 7 of MY absolute favorites XXX cards. so lets go :)Milena Mara - Dont Stop!Quinn Lindemann - AmbitionRed Fox - SoloNikita Belluci - SoloSybil - AnimalisticFoxxi Black - My SunshineAlyssia Kent - Private ShowEnjoy ;)

Some people want and will purchase every card issued. I understand they will favor promotions like this, since they are getting something free in the process.

That is correct, and we do appreciate getting the extra card. However, I do not think that we are the primary target for these promotions because if we were going to buy all of the month's card anyway Totem get no extra income from us as a result of the promotion. I think that the primary target is those that buy heavily but can be persuaded to buy just a bit more heavily for this month. Some of these will be old customers with large collections and others will be new customers - and it is the latter who will provide most benefit to Totem because they will be paying more for each card. Totem will also get extra income if they cause some to buy the new cards rather than older lower resolution cards.

As I have said in previous posts, Totem have repeated pre-purchase offers, with an exclusive card as a reward, several times now since the first Advent Calendar two and a half years ago. Presumably they are gaining something from them, or at least not losing out, despite some people here claiming that they must be alienating many of their customers.

@dar2112v - Thanks very much for your posts. I certainly did not feel like I was saying anything hatefull or that this would somehow scare someone. We certainly do not need to agree on everything. I purchase the cards of the girls I like, which is now thousands of cards after almost 10 years on the site.
My standard for parting with my credits is knowing what I am buying. I may be in the minority with this view, but there is nothing ***** here. Pointing out that this type of promotion (if it continues to be replicated month to month) will result in buying hundreds of unseen cards is simply a fact.
Some people want and will purchase every card issued. I understand they will favor promotions like this, since they are getting something free in the process. But others want to be more selective in what they purchase. And some people need to respect the right of another member to have a different opinion, without resorting to name calling.

I went back a finished reading your email ..

Why all the ***** being spread over it?
Why create false scenarios ? .

I haven't seen ***** just frustration over not being able to buy a card we want without buying everything.

I actually think the Monthly Pre-Orders are a great deal, almost as good as the old Subscription days...
Every daily card, automatically added to your collection...
no Muss, no Fuss, no need to check daily and buy a card and then added it...
Pay once, and get them all automatically. .

It's not a deal .. there is no value other than exclusion. if you buy every card then sadly that is your problem but don't make the rest of us do it to get the cards we want.

I agree that if you don't care about the girl or the card but you just want to own them all it is a convenience and am very ***** why they haven't brought subscription back. The old subscription was ridiculously cheap; so much so that I tried it and REALLY regretted it but it makes sense to bring back at a sane price or for free cards or whatever.

Plus as a Bonus... you get an Exclusive card, not available for Sale in the Store..

Again, if you buy all the cards have gained nothing beyond the cost of a card. If if you get some pleasure in owning a card that others can no longer buy; you still can't know how 'exclusive' it really is. And if someone really feels the need to be in the exclusive club they simply have to gamble for it.

The point of the exclusive card is to coherence buyers that don't want cards they don't want and hence the frustration from members like me. No ***** just facts.

what you wrote, about Having to By 30 unwanted cards with every card purchased is not factual , and, in my opinion, is just spreading *****.

In the context of the calendar it is a 100%; regardless how is it ***** or spreading ***** to say it ? I guess if 14 times 30 is less then 400 then you could say he got his math wrong but that doesn't make someone ***** does it? I guess you could say that not all Red Fox cards are exclusive but he didn't say they were on what if. Any any case if you disagree then state you case or don't respond at all but to accuse someone of ***** mongering ... really?

Both the math and the point are perfectly correct. If you want the exclusive cards offered with the calendar you need to buy the approximately 30 cards that come with it; a simple FACT. I don't like it but other seem to like it just fine; agreeing or disagreeing neither changes the math nor the facts. He correctly inferred that 14 exclusive calendar cards would come at the cost of over 400 cards which is perfectly accurate. But the point is calling someone ***** even if you disagree with that fact is simply wrong in my book.

it's real in here.👍

The legs od the dude need to go for future stuff. and the music drowning out sound is bollux.

Sun of a beach! ;)

You know not every critique is a display of *****.

In the end I think it is only fair to let totem know what you don't like especially, if you are supposed to pay for it.

Since that kind of cosplay survey in the forum I am still waiting for at least one good card with a girl with a good show that is wearing something better than the daily underwear.
Well oviously I will not get that red fox card anymore, but she seemed to get close to what I like.

Totem could could bring back special event card from time to time, not only in super size black box bundles and they could increase the variety and quality of the shows.
At least for my part this would take away a lot of frustration, I guess.😉😉

I actually think the Monthly Pre-Orders are a great deal, almost as good as the old Subscription days...
Every daily card, automatically added to your collection...
no Muss, no Fuss, no need to check daily and buy a card and then added it...
Pay once, and get them all automatically.
Plus as a Bonus... you get an Exclusive card, not available for Sale in the Store..

I wish this was an option at the start of every month..
Pay once, get all the cards...
Combine it with a reload bonus at the end of the previous month...

And that is the Perfect combination for members who want all the cards...

😎👍👍👍👍👍👍

If a member is a discriminating buyer, then simply pass on the deal...

and don't *****

@CrackCrazy

@Wyldanimal - and I'm not going to get into the name calling with you. Not professional in my book.

What?
Name calling? Where?

that post was not even directed at you personally..
See that @CrackCrazy in this post, yes, this one is specific to you...

I see a lot of ***** being spread in this thread from various members...

what you wrote, about Having to By 30 unwanted cards with every card purchased is not factual , and, in my opinion, is just spreading *****.

I just quoted what you wrote as an example.. of the kind of thinking that is out of hand...

Is it REALLY such a ***** thing? Seriously... ?
It's not like a member is NOT getting anything from it... They are getting all the cards released for the month.

If a member is a discriminating buyer, then simply pass on the deal...
Why all the ***** being spread over it?
Why create false scenarios ?


I actually think the Monthly Pre-Orders are a great deal, almost as good as the old Subscription days...
Every daily card, automatically added to your collection...
no Muss, no Fuss, no need to check daily and buy a card and then added it...
Pay once, and get them all automatically.
Plus as a Bonus... you get an Exclusive card, not available for Sale in the Store..

I wish this was an option at the start of every month..
Pay once, get all the cards...
Combine it with a reload bonus at the end of the previous month...

And that is the Perfect combination for members who want all the cards...

@gkar45 ... wasn't aiming at you hun 😊

it was a sad day when the 'Me Too" whiners moved into the forum.
WTF people.. I agree with @TheEmu there are only a few that express vehement anger about not getting one card.. but i notice some of you only have 3 of TheRedFox's 14 current cards ... not enough choice ???

This analogy is somewhat out of date, but in the days when music was sold on singles, EPs and LPs (also known as albums) or even double LPs and latter on CDs I do not remember so much anger about having to buy a package of between 2 and 30 tracks just to get the one you wanted. Not a perfect analogy because it was not so easy to release each track singly, but the fact remains that very few people expressed the same vehement anger about it as we see here against buying similar packages.

@Wyldanimal - and I'm not going to get into the name calling with you. Not professional in my book.

@Wyldanimal - not sure what if anything is ***** about my post? Just pointing out that you are blindly purchasing 30 or so cards to get one. And the more times you do this the greater the number of potentially unwanted cards you will have purchased.

By the way, if Totem continues this (every month get an exclusive card if you blindly buy the month in advance) then this time next year we will be nearing the number in my post.

That Red Fox card looks amazing and always good to see Josephine