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batavus
Inscrit en Nov 2019
571 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Who speaks of truth.

All have their truths.

This is not the truth that we are talking about here but a possibility for Totem to accommodate people who are just collectors and not gamblers.

You're happy with the game, and Totem's policies suit you, so much the better.

This is not the case for many here. I am not the only one to experience frustration, facing cards that I am willing to pay more to get them outside of games.

Respect the way other customers look.

I'm sick of people who speak for Totem.

I'm sure there are people at Totem who are smart enough to find ways to keep all of their customers happy while still making money. Otherwise there would be no customer service in the shops. By what right do you allow yourself to speak for these people?

If this thread isn't for you, there's nothing stopping you from looking elsewhere on this forum.

It is precisely this kind of reaction between members who divide unnecessarily, that I see and deplore with the SEC that can only be obtained through games.


Qui parle de vérité.

Tous ont leurs vérités.

Ce n'est pas de vérité dont ont parle ici mais d'une possibilité pour Totem d'accomoder les gens qui sont juste des collectionneurs et non des gamblers.

Vous êtes comblé par le jeu, et les politiques de Totem vous conviennent, tant mieux.

Ce n'est pas le cas pour plusieurs ici. Je ne suis pas le seul à vivre des frustrations, face à des cartes dont je suis près à payer plus cher pour les obtenir en dehors des jeux.

Respectez la façon de voir des autres clients.

Je suis tanné des gens qui parlent à la place de Totem.

Je suis certain qu'il y a des gens chez Totem qui sont assez intelligents pour trouver des façons de satisfaire l'ensemble de leur clientèle, et ce, en continuant à faire de l'argent. Sinon il n'y aurait pas de service à la clientèle dans les commerces. De quel droit vous permettez-vous de parler à la place de ces gens ?

Si ce fil de discussion ne vous convient pas, rien ne vous empêche d'allez voir ailleurs sur ce forum.

C'est justement ce genre de réaction entre les membres qui divisent inutilement, que je constate et déplore avec les SEC ne pouvant s'obtenir que par les jeux.
@ComteDracula : How many SEC's do you have ? Just a few of do have you all of them ?

When you have all of them, it's now hypocrite to tell you're against these cards.
I can't get rid of the thought you have all of them.
I don't have any and when I read the comments it's just a normal card, it's only hard to get. And I can't get rid of my opinion you're frustrated these cards are nothing more than just a normal card of the girl.

When you just have one or two SEC's and noticed these cards are not that special and you won't chase after them anymore, you have the right to *****.
JassonYT
Inscrit en Oct 2017
162 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
This is just my opinion but I like the IDEA of the SEC Cards, However I feel like they are straight up not worth it. I have like 6 or 7 SEC cards some from getting lucky some from spending like $50-$70ish and I can tell you that I only watch like 2, I've actually have deleted one (Just due to personal preference) But I feel like if Totem wants up to get these SEC Cards they really gotta make them special! Changing an outfit or having the girl do an XXX Clip just really isn't that special if you have 100's of other cards that you can get that are different from one another and they do just that. I guess in order to make people feel happy with the decision of SEC cards totem should Make it so "oh if you get these SEC cards expect more pictures of the girl maybe a different type of video with the girl" just something that makes those SEC cards stand out above the rest. I've lost my motivation to go for anymore cause when it all comes down to the show usually it's just a different outfit.

(EDIT)

Also just to add idk why they don't do what they did with the Cara Mell SEC Card all the time? Just improve that system even more and make it different every time but still have the same concept that if you play a game each one adds up until you get that SEC Card. Honestly probably the best way of doing it because it eliminates that game of chance and it also gives you the opportunity to either cash out and have some fun playing some games not worried if you'll have enough money to get the girl ORRRR just don't lol.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
2693 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Who speaks of truth.

All have their truths.

This is not the truth that we are talking about here but a possibility for Totem to accommodate people who are just collectors and not gamblers.

You're happy with the game, and Totem's policies suit you, so much the better.

This is not the case for many here. I am not the only one to experience frustration, facing cards that I am willing to pay more to get them outside of games.

Respect the way other customers look.

I'm sick of people who speak for Totem.

I'm sure there are people at Totem who are smart enough to find ways to keep all of their customers happy while still making money. Otherwise there would be no customer service in the shops. By what right do you allow yourself to speak for these people?

If this thread isn't for you, there's nothing stopping you from looking elsewhere on this forum.

It is precisely this kind of reaction between members who divide unnecessarily, that I see and deplore with the SEC that can only be obtained through games.


Qui parle de vérité.

Tous ont leurs vérités.

Ce n'est pas de vérité dont ont parle ici mais d'une possibilité pour Totem d'accomoder les gens qui sont juste des collectionneurs et non des gamblers.

Vous êtes comblé par le jeu, et les politiques de Totem vous conviennent, tant mieux.

Ce n'est pas le cas pour plusieurs ici. Je ne suis pas le seul à vivre des frustrations, face à des cartes dont je suis près à payer plus cher pour les obtenir en dehors des jeux.

Respectez la façon de voir des autres clients.

Je suis tanné des gens qui parlent à la place de Totem.

Je suis certain qu'il y a des gens chez Totem qui sont assez intelligents pour trouver des façons de satisfaire l'ensemble de leur clientèle, et ce, en continuant à faire de l'argent. Sinon il n'y aurait pas de service à la clientèle dans les commerces. De quel droit vous permettez-vous de parler à la place de ces gens ?

Si ce fil de discussion ne vous convient pas, rien ne vous empêche d'allez voir ailleurs sur ce forum.

C'est justement ce genre de réaction entre les membres qui divisent inutilement, que je constate et déplore avec les SEC ne pouvant s'obtenir que par les jeux.
GreyWolfNH
Inscrit en Jul 2011
96 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
I have been a member longer than you and have nearly 5 times a many cards as you so let me say I "***** foul" as well. When I joined you could buy any card you wanted without playing the fool.
Well excuse me Mr. 2007, but you should know better. Remember when this particular product was actually several different products produced under different names, and one could only get the full experience by subsidizing several different iterations of the same?

My how times change.


I never said I had a mental illness problem.
Going out of your way to misunderstand what I said is a form of mental illness these days. So you'd best get tested.

You accuse the company of preying on those who do have problems, then I say to you if someone has these problems they shouldn't be here in the first place. In your particular case, I was using a non-specific "you" to address your concern, not making a specific reference to you personally. I don't even know who you are, and I wouldn't do you the disrespect to make assumptions about your life and your problems.

You should be careful how you interpret other people's words.
You should do the same.

Totem has changed the way it acts and attracts people by giving them the illusion that they will acquire SEC cards by playing their games. They make them spend a lot of credits and money and often without being able to get the card they wanted.
See, my contention is the use of the word "make". Totem does not "make" anyone do anything, and your accusation that playing the game does not lead to acquisition of a SEC is provably false. I got four Jokers on the slot machine for the parting of a few dollars. However, as with any game of chance, there is always a possibility you will lose.

I don't want to gamble, I just want to be able to buy cards and watch pretty women dancing on my screen, without having to play games of chance to try and get them.
No, what you want to do is kick up a fuss and ***** that you didn't get something specific you wanted. There are literally thousands of cards for sale. Go find one. If you don't like the games of chance then don't play them. No one is ***** you to do anything. It's your money, spend it however you want, or don't even spend it at all.
If you choose to gamble, prepare to lose. Try acting like an adult and make a rational decision.

What grind my gears is you trying to pull some sob story about, "Oh the poor victims of this ***** practice," as if we're not all full grown adults here to consume porn and jerk off.

"Oh, the poor victims," Indeed. Grow up.

As a lawyer, I believe the Devil would get rid of your services fairly quickly.
I think the Devil would be fine retaining my services. Apparently I'm the only one around here who understands you don't get everything you want handed to you on a silver platter, and that when you gamble the House always wins.

It's good to have that kind of perspective on retainer.


VR and LiveGirls should have a much higher profitability and as a business itself it should be more lucrative.
My point exactly. The world is full of people who think they know better than the creators and operators of a successful product and business model. If you're so good at analyzing business, why don't you go play the stock market and leave the rest of us alone?

Let me just say this loud and clear: I LOVE PLAYING THE SLOT MACHINE GAME.
There. Now we have officially registered a contrary opinion. So when this company continues to live and thrive, giving you what you want, you can come thank me for putting my money in the slot machine and keeping the machine going. You see, I'm a man of the people. The people want porn, and I'm going to help them get it.


I have been a member longer than you and have nearly 5 times a many cards as you
I'm quoting this drivel for posterity.
Your 'Holier Than Thou' attitude is an inspiriation to internet chat rooms everywhere.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
2693 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Under these conditions it is useful to say on the forum to future iStripper customers, that after spending several thousand dollars on cards, they will have their collections sabotaged with SEC that cannot be bought and obtained. (maybe if they're lucky) at a high price, while living in the frustration of not actually getting them. Especially since many of these girls, but not all, are among the favorites.

And at the end of the day being seen as an old sock, after paying all that money, no longer being customers for them to consider.

Maybe this will make these future customers think twice before investing in iStripper.

An informed customer is worth two, when the rules of the game are clear at the start.

Now what will Devil's Advocate say to those like us who invested in this way of seeing Totem, and who saw the rules of the game change along the way ? Will he laugh with the Devil at the bad blow he inflicted on these buyers, who believed and who still believe in this product, who apart from these frustrations, which are distortions, remains a good entertainment?

For my part, I don't like running away from a problem. That would be making it too easy for Totem.

They have the ability to find alternatives for their best clients, but pretending nothing has happened helps no one, and they included.


Dans ces conditions il est utile de dire sur le forum aux futurs clients d'iStripper, qu'après avoir dépenser plusieurs milliers de dollars pour des cartes, ils vont se faire saboter leurs collections avec des SEC ne pouvant s'acheter et s'obtenir (peut-être s'ils sont chanceux) qu'à gros prix, tout en vivant dans cela de la frustration de ne pas les avoir au final obtenu. Surtout que plusieurs de ces filles, mais pas toutes, font partie des préférées.

Et à la fin se faire considérer comme une vieille chaussette, après avoir payé tout cet argent, n'étant plus des clients à considérer par eux.

Peut-être que cela va ammener ces futurs clients à y repenser à deux fois avant d'investir dans iStripper.

Un client averti en vaut deux, lorsque les règles du jeu sont claires au départ.

Maintenant que va dire l'avocat du Diable à ceux qui comme nous ont investi avant cette façon de voir de Totem, et qui ont vu les règles du jeu changer en cour de route ? Va t-il rire avec le Diable du mauvais coup qu'il a infligé à ces acheteurs, qui ont cru et qui croit toujours à ce produit, qui en dehors de ces frustrations, qui font distorsions, reste un bon divertissement ?

Pour ma part je n'aime pas la fuite face à un problème. Ce serait trop rendre cela facile à Totem.

Ils ont la possibilité de trouver des alternatives pour leurs meilleurs clients, mais de faire comme si de rien n'était n'aide personne, et eux inclus.
x26638184
Inscrit en Oct 2018
492 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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27 September 2020, 86 réponses
Dear friends. I think that wasting time on this is an unnecessary wear and tear and I explain it to you this way:

What is IStripper?
Pornographic multimedia platform

What does it consist of?
  • A semi-collectible system of low-cost cards
  • Higher Cost VR Videos
  • Live Girls Web Cam service of May value still
  • The cards are what is called ¨comidity¨para hooking customers with higher value services or products ( like when you go to buy bread and end up leaving the supermarket with a full cart). You went to buy 1USD and left spending 50 USD for the promotions, hitches and all the machinery arranged for ¨consumer¨

VR and LiveGirls should have a much higher profitability and as a business itself it should be more lucrative. (it's a matter of looking at the values of those services)

The SEC, will never disappear, it takes very few to sustain it as a business area. Commercially it is better for a SEC player to spend 100USD to get a card than 100 spending 1USD buying cards that are outside this system.

Being the devil's advocate part 2 I would say the following:

The company or service provider:
  • I give you a moment of entertainment for little money under my conditions that I hope you like and accept, if you don't like these you can be so kind to go your way as you are an adult and independent person who knows what he is doing and can use his individual right of choice and spend his money where and how he wants.

The user or client:
  • Thank you for your product or service, I appreciate what you offer me, but today you do not meet my personal expectations, and I decide to take other entertainment options that life offers me.
I understand that you do not want to change because it is not in your interest, since I am not the target you want to retain or capture today.
I don't blame you or judge you for that.

When 1 side of the headphones stops playing or sounds bad...The music is no longer the same.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
2693 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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27 September 2020, 86 réponses
Yes iStripper contributes through their games to exploit some people with addiction problems.
Me personally this aspect comes to me, because I work to help vulnerable people, with mental illnesses.

If you have a problem with gambling or mental illness, then the last place you should be is here.
Turn off your computer and go get some help from a real person.

@GreyWolfNH

I never said I had a mental illness problem.

I said that I help people who have addiction issues and mental illness. I am one of those real people, helping vulnerable people. I am therefore well placed to understand this problem.

In this sense, it is a cause of which I am sensitive.

You should be careful how you interpret other people's words.

Totem has changed the way it acts and attracts people by giving them the illusion that they will acquire SEC cards by playing their games. They make them spend a lot of credits and money and often without being able to get the card they wanted.

Which was not the case before.

I have already said it. I have no problem paying more for an SEC card. On the other hand, I want to know what it will cost me and be sure to get it.

I am not a gambler, nor do I go to casinos, nor play slots, or lottery in real life. I'm not interested in being drawn into this kind of trap, being able to see the damage.

I don't want to gamble, I just want to be able to buy cards and watch pretty women dancing on my screen, without having to play games of chance to try and get them.

As a lawyer, I believe the Devil would get rid of your services fairly quickly.


Je n'ai jamais dit que j'avais un problème de maladie mentale.

J'ai dit que j'aide des gens qui ont des problèmes de dépendance et de maladie mentale. Je suis une de ces personnes réelles, qui aide des gens vulnérables. Je suis donc bien placé pour comprendre cette problématique.

En ce sens, c'est une cause dont je suis sensible.

Vous devriez faire attention dans la façon dont vous interprétez les paroles des gens.

Totem a changé sa façon d'agir et attire des gens en leur donnant l'illusion qu'ils vont acquérir des cartes SEC en jouant à leur jeux. Ils leur font dépenser beaucoup de crédits et d'argent et souvent sans pouvoir obtenir la carte qu'ils désiraient.

Ce qui n'était pas le cas auparavant.

Je l'ai déjà dit. Je n'ai pas de problème à payer plus cher pour une carte SEC. Par contre je veux savoir ce qu'elle va me coûter et être certain de l'obtenir.

Je ne suis pas un gambler, je ne vais pas dans des casinos, ni ne joue à des machines à sous, ni à la lotterie dans la vrai vie. Je ne suis pas intéressé à me faire attirer dans ce genre de piège, étant à même de voir les dégats.

Je ne veux pas jouer, je veux juste pouvoir acheter des cartes et admirer de jolies femmes danser sur mon écran, sans être obliger de jouer à des jeux de hasard pour tenter de les obtenir.

Comme avocat, je crois que le Diable se débarasserait de vos services assez rapidement.
GreyWolfNH
Inscrit en Jul 2011
96 message(s)

Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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27 September 2020, 86 réponses
Truth is as a long time member of iStripper every time I see a SEC card it feels like someone tied me to a telephone pole and my nuts to an Indy car and told that driver to hit the redline.

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment.

You have 854 cards in your collection. I'm going to assume that you have therefore spent several hundred dollars aquiring those cards. You are now engaging in a line of argument that stipulates several things:

One, that despite spending several hundred dollars to acquire those cards, the thought of spending maybe a hundred more dollars in the slot machine to win a few Joker cards is somehow abhorrent to you.

Two, that despite the fact you don't even come close to being one of the largest collectors of these cards and this product, you now feel that you have some line of argument against those who spend far more money than you, or spend their money in a much more focused way than you to acquire what they want.

I think this line of argument is faulty. You, nor anyone else have no right to ***** foul after you personally subsidized this product.

Compared to most I see on this forum my own collection is quite small. However, I have no compunction about throwing 50 bucks into the slot machine to win a Joker card or two to gain a special event card I really want. Having spent some time in real casinos, playing real gambling games, with real money, and real stakes, I can say the games of chance here have a much higher chance of winning, and have a far greater payout than anything you'll get whether at a casino or your local convenince store scratchoff ticket.

To equate an optional game of chance to ***** only shows me you have deeper problems than your monthly credit card balance.

Yes iStripper contributes through their games to exploit some people with addiction problems.
Me personally this aspect comes to me, because I work to help vulnerable people, with mental illnesses.

If you have a problem with gambling or mental illness, then the last place you should be is here.
Turn off your computer and go get some help from a real person.

Jesus, you folks are throwing thousands of dollars into a hole, only to ***** that that it's not deep enough, and you're not allowed to throw even more money in?

If you've got a problem with the way the company sells their goods, maybe you should find a new company. Or maybe you should go outside once in a while, get some perspective on life. Maybe go visit your relatives, or take up a hobby that's not quite so expensive. Like making changes to the grafitti on office equipment, or driving around until you find somewhere your SatNav tells you you can go, but you can't.
orclover
Inscrit en Jun 2012
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guns in istripper

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26 September 2020, 47 réponses
Was skeptical about doing so, but If I may chime in-
Owned, (legally) enjoyed shooting handguns, long guns since my late teens
At one point in my life it became required to carry a handgun due to my chosen occupation - to STOP a threat.
To protect life- Never property, from the bad people of society when he/she/they are using equal deadly *****/intent
Can using a gun on a human being result in their demise? Absolutely
Was I ever trained/instructed to ***** someone? Never- I was trained to stop a threat to protect Life, my own and or other human beings.
I totally understand this is a emotional issue and rightfully so- discharging a firearm at a human being can cause death
It may sound cliche' but to me a firearm is a tool, just like a wrench, saw, hammer. It serves it's purpose- and should be respected
Am I pro gun? Yes-Legally owned, responsibly posessed

Now as far as Beautiful, Sexy girls firing a gun at a range in the Tightest short-shorts...What a turn on
Plenty of videos on Ytube

America is just a different place from the rest of the industrialized world. It has always had very high crime rates, and its people are a weird combination of individualistic, materialistic, simple minded, and resistant to oversight. The nation is so much younger than the rest of the industrialized world, with nearly the entiretly of its population coming from recent immigrant families. Statistically a gun is most likely used to ***** its owner...rather than protect..the incidents of a gun stopping an intruder are extremely small, but gun suicides are astronomical...and annually into the 10s of thousands. Rural people are the most likely to own a gun, and are the least likely to have to use it, except to ***** themselves or endure their children accidently shooting themselves. Guns are deadly, ***** thousands of people a year but they are fun...and deadly fun things that ***** thousands fit right in my america.
Vortim
Inscrit en Apr 2019
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