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ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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OMG I HATE SEC

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28 September 2020, 28 réponses
@BushViper357

You are one of the customers who paid top dollar for playing SECs, and who refuse to accept that others might pay less for those same cards.

You deny yourself that Totem can accommodate people who refuse to play games.

What would you say if I objected, having followed the departure rules of the SEC, which Totem does not allow, as it was expected that the people who did not want to participate in the starting offers, who was d 'buy all the cards of an event x, can not get these cards anymore, once the offer ends?

Because that was what was planned.

Yes there are more loyal customers, and the people who own all the cards are certainly one of them. These people, by their purchases and the money invested, deserve to have access to these cards, by having the possibility of buying them.

I see you also have a large collection.

The difference between you and less is that you have succumbed to the song of the sirens. And that you don't want to admit to yourself that you got screwed.

Not me.

Worse, you want others to fall for the trap as well, by not accepting that you may have been wrong for being tricked.

***** not, there are several like you here.



@BushViper357

Vous faites partie des clients qui ont payés le gros prix en obtenant les SEC par les jeux, et qui se refusent à accepter que d'autres pourraient payer moins cher pour ces mêmes cartes.

Vous vous refuser que Totem puissent accomoder les gens qui refusent de jouer à des jeux.

Que diriez-vous si je m'étais objecté, ayant suivi les règles de départ des SEC, que Totem n'autorise pas, comme c'était prévu que les gens qui n'ont pas voulu participer aux offres de départ, qui était d'acheter toutes les cartes d'un évènement x, ne puisse plus obtenir ces cartes, une fois l'offre terminé ?

Car c'était cela qui était prévu.

Oui il y a de clients plus fidèles, et les gens qui possèdent toutes les cartes en font certainement partie. Ces gens par leurs achats et l'argent investi, méritent d'avoir accès à ces cartes, en ayant la possibilité de les acheter.

Je vois que vous avez aussi une grande collection.

La différence entre vous et moins est que vous avez succomber au chant des sirènes. Et que vous ne voulez pas vous avouer que vous vous êtes fait avoir.

Pas moi.

Pire, vous voulez que d'autres aussi tombe dans le piège, en n'acceptant pas que vous avez peut-être eu tord de vous avoir fait piéger.

N'ayez crainte, il y en a plusieurs comme vous ici.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
@batavus,

If you had followed all the posts I wrote on this topic, and if you look at the title of this discussion thread, it's pretty easy to understand that I don't own all the SEC cards, and am not against all of them. the ways to get these SEC cards.

I have the SEC cards, which were obtained, as was originally planned, to mark really special events (like the holiday season, advent calendar, etc.) with the purchase of all one month cards.

I have no problem obtaining SEC cards under these conditions.

By the way, it was the special events that were highlighted, and it was never the card, which was special. That's why we say it's a special event card.

It's more from Melena Maria Rya's card, in September 2019, that things turned sour. I finally managed to get this card, with the joker card given in the Premium Member purchase offer.

However, in the same offer I lost the Sky Blue special event card.

It was at this point that Totem decided to release cards that are obtained only through games of chance, with no guarantee of being able to obtain them, and it is since that time, that I hardly get these cards anymore, except that of Cara Mell, where I participated, because there was a specific way to get it with certainty.

It is this way of doing things, which has become more usual now for Totem, and which is increasing in frequency, where people can spend a lot of money, without being sure of getting these cards that I denounce. It has been since that time that we have seen a lot of frustrations for many clients here. Hope you don't think I'm the only one? You just have to notice the many threads on this subject on the forum, to realize it.

And I have absolutely the right to denounce that, whatever may say about it here.

So I mostly have the special event cards from before this change, the ones where there was no problem getting them, if we were ready to buy all the cards for a month, and where there was certainty to have them by buying the cards of an offer x.

So I have 10 cards out of 18 cards.


@batavus,

Si vous aviez suivi tous les messages que j'ai écrit sur ce sujet, et si vous regardez le titre de ce fil de discussion, il est assez facile de comprendre que je ne possède pas toutes les cartes SEC, et ne suis pas contre toutes les façons d'obtenir ces cartes SEC.

Je possède les cartes SEC, qui s'obtenaient, comme c'était prévue au départ, pour souligner les évènements vraiment spéciaux (comme la période des fêtes, calendrier de l'avent, etc...) à l'achat de toutes les cartes d'un mois.

Je n'ai aucun problème a obtenir des cartes SEC dans ces conditions.

En passant c'était les évènements spéciaux qui étaient soulignés, et cela n'a jamais été la carte, qui était spéciale. C'est pour cela que l'on dit que c'est une carte évènement spécial.

C'est plus à partir de la carte de Melena Maria Rya, en septembre 2019, que les choses se sont gâtés. J'ai finalement réussis à avoir cette carte, avec la carte joker donné dans l'offre de l'achat membre Premium.

Par contre j'ai perdu dans la même offre la carte évènement spécial de Sky Blue.

C'est à ce moment que Totem a décidé de sortir des cartes qui s'obtiennent seulement par les jeux de hasard, sans garanti de pouvoir les obtenir, et c'est depuis ce temps, que je n'obtiens presque plus ces cartes, sauf celle de Cara Mell, où j'ai participé, car il y avait un chemin spécifique de l'obtenir avec certitude.

C'est cette façon de faire, qui est devenu plus habituel maintenant pour Totem, et qui va en augmentant en fréquence, où les gens peuvent dépenser beaucoup d'argent, sans certitude d'obtenir ces cartes que je dénonce. C'est depuis ce temps que l'on constate beaucoup de frustrations pour plusieurs clients ici. J'espère que vous ne pensez pas que je suis le seul ? Il faut juste se rendre compte des nombreux fils de discussion à ce sujet sur le forum, pour s'en rendre compte.

Et j'ai absolument le droit de dénoncer cela, quoi qu'en dise plusieurs ici.

Donc j'ai surtout les cartes évènements spécials d'avant ce changement, celles où il n'y avait pas de problème à les obtenir, si nous étions prêt à acheter toutes les cartes d'un mois, et où il y avait une certitude de les avoir en achetant les cartes d'une offre x.

Je possède donc 10 cartes sur 18 cartes.
batavus
Inscrit en Nov 2019
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Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Who speaks of truth.

All have their truths.

This is not the truth that we are talking about here but a possibility for Totem to accommodate people who are just collectors and not gamblers.

You're happy with the game, and Totem's policies suit you, so much the better.

This is not the case for many here. I am not the only one to experience frustration, facing cards that I am willing to pay more to get them outside of games.

Respect the way other customers look.

I'm sick of people who speak for Totem.

I'm sure there are people at Totem who are smart enough to find ways to keep all of their customers happy while still making money. Otherwise there would be no customer service in the shops. By what right do you allow yourself to speak for these people?

If this thread isn't for you, there's nothing stopping you from looking elsewhere on this forum.

It is precisely this kind of reaction between members who divide unnecessarily, that I see and deplore with the SEC that can only be obtained through games.


Qui parle de vérité.

Tous ont leurs vérités.

Ce n'est pas de vérité dont ont parle ici mais d'une possibilité pour Totem d'accomoder les gens qui sont juste des collectionneurs et non des gamblers.

Vous êtes comblé par le jeu, et les politiques de Totem vous conviennent, tant mieux.

Ce n'est pas le cas pour plusieurs ici. Je ne suis pas le seul à vivre des frustrations, face à des cartes dont je suis près à payer plus cher pour les obtenir en dehors des jeux.

Respectez la façon de voir des autres clients.

Je suis tanné des gens qui parlent à la place de Totem.

Je suis certain qu'il y a des gens chez Totem qui sont assez intelligents pour trouver des façons de satisfaire l'ensemble de leur clientèle, et ce, en continuant à faire de l'argent. Sinon il n'y aurait pas de service à la clientèle dans les commerces. De quel droit vous permettez-vous de parler à la place de ces gens ?

Si ce fil de discussion ne vous convient pas, rien ne vous empêche d'allez voir ailleurs sur ce forum.

C'est justement ce genre de réaction entre les membres qui divisent inutilement, que je constate et déplore avec les SEC ne pouvant s'obtenir que par les jeux.
@ComteDracula : How many SEC's do you have ? Just a few of do have you all of them ?

When you have all of them, it's now hypocrite to tell you're against these cards.
I can't get rid of the thought you have all of them.
I don't have any and when I read the comments it's just a normal card, it's only hard to get. And I can't get rid of my opinion you're frustrated these cards are nothing more than just a normal card of the girl.

When you just have one or two SEC's and noticed these cards are not that special and you won't chase after them anymore, you have the right to *****.
JassonYT
Inscrit en Oct 2017
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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
This is just my opinion but I like the IDEA of the SEC Cards, However I feel like they are straight up not worth it. I have like 6 or 7 SEC cards some from getting lucky some from spending like $50-$70ish and I can tell you that I only watch like 2, I've actually have deleted one (Just due to personal preference) But I feel like if Totem wants up to get these SEC Cards they really gotta make them special! Changing an outfit or having the girl do an XXX Clip just really isn't that special if you have 100's of other cards that you can get that are different from one another and they do just that. I guess in order to make people feel happy with the decision of SEC cards totem should Make it so "oh if you get these SEC cards expect more pictures of the girl maybe a different type of video with the girl" just something that makes those SEC cards stand out above the rest. I've lost my motivation to go for anymore cause when it all comes down to the show usually it's just a different outfit.

(EDIT)

Also just to add idk why they don't do what they did with the Cara Mell SEC Card all the time? Just improve that system even more and make it different every time but still have the same concept that if you play a game each one adds up until you get that SEC Card. Honestly probably the best way of doing it because it eliminates that game of chance and it also gives you the opportunity to either cash out and have some fun playing some games not worried if you'll have enough money to get the girl ORRRR just don't lol.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Who speaks of truth.

All have their truths.

This is not the truth that we are talking about here but a possibility for Totem to accommodate people who are just collectors and not gamblers.

You're happy with the game, and Totem's policies suit you, so much the better.

This is not the case for many here. I am not the only one to experience frustration, facing cards that I am willing to pay more to get them outside of games.

Respect the way other customers look.

I'm sick of people who speak for Totem.

I'm sure there are people at Totem who are smart enough to find ways to keep all of their customers happy while still making money. Otherwise there would be no customer service in the shops. By what right do you allow yourself to speak for these people?

If this thread isn't for you, there's nothing stopping you from looking elsewhere on this forum.

It is precisely this kind of reaction between members who divide unnecessarily, that I see and deplore with the SEC that can only be obtained through games.


Qui parle de vérité.

Tous ont leurs vérités.

Ce n'est pas de vérité dont ont parle ici mais d'une possibilité pour Totem d'accomoder les gens qui sont juste des collectionneurs et non des gamblers.

Vous êtes comblé par le jeu, et les politiques de Totem vous conviennent, tant mieux.

Ce n'est pas le cas pour plusieurs ici. Je ne suis pas le seul à vivre des frustrations, face à des cartes dont je suis près à payer plus cher pour les obtenir en dehors des jeux.

Respectez la façon de voir des autres clients.

Je suis tanné des gens qui parlent à la place de Totem.

Je suis certain qu'il y a des gens chez Totem qui sont assez intelligents pour trouver des façons de satisfaire l'ensemble de leur clientèle, et ce, en continuant à faire de l'argent. Sinon il n'y aurait pas de service à la clientèle dans les commerces. De quel droit vous permettez-vous de parler à la place de ces gens ?

Si ce fil de discussion ne vous convient pas, rien ne vous empêche d'allez voir ailleurs sur ce forum.

C'est justement ce genre de réaction entre les membres qui divisent inutilement, que je constate et déplore avec les SEC ne pouvant s'obtenir que par les jeux.
GreyWolfNH
Inscrit en Jul 2011
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Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
I have been a member longer than you and have nearly 5 times a many cards as you so let me say I "***** foul" as well. When I joined you could buy any card you wanted without playing the fool.
Well excuse me Mr. 2007, but you should know better. Remember when this particular product was actually several different products produced under different names, and one could only get the full experience by subsidizing several different iterations of the same?

My how times change.


I never said I had a mental illness problem.
Going out of your way to misunderstand what I said is a form of mental illness these days. So you'd best get tested.

You accuse the company of preying on those who do have problems, then I say to you if someone has these problems they shouldn't be here in the first place. In your particular case, I was using a non-specific "you" to address your concern, not making a specific reference to you personally. I don't even know who you are, and I wouldn't do you the disrespect to make assumptions about your life and your problems.

You should be careful how you interpret other people's words.
You should do the same.

Totem has changed the way it acts and attracts people by giving them the illusion that they will acquire SEC cards by playing their games. They make them spend a lot of credits and money and often without being able to get the card they wanted.
See, my contention is the use of the word "make". Totem does not "make" anyone do anything, and your accusation that playing the game does not lead to acquisition of a SEC is provably false. I got four Jokers on the slot machine for the parting of a few dollars. However, as with any game of chance, there is always a possibility you will lose.

I don't want to gamble, I just want to be able to buy cards and watch pretty women dancing on my screen, without having to play games of chance to try and get them.
No, what you want to do is kick up a fuss and ***** that you didn't get something specific you wanted. There are literally thousands of cards for sale. Go find one. If you don't like the games of chance then don't play them. No one is ***** you to do anything. It's your money, spend it however you want, or don't even spend it at all.
If you choose to gamble, prepare to lose. Try acting like an adult and make a rational decision.

What grind my gears is you trying to pull some sob story about, "Oh the poor victims of this ***** practice," as if we're not all full grown adults here to consume porn and jerk off.

"Oh, the poor victims," Indeed. Grow up.

As a lawyer, I believe the Devil would get rid of your services fairly quickly.
I think the Devil would be fine retaining my services. Apparently I'm the only one around here who understands you don't get everything you want handed to you on a silver platter, and that when you gamble the House always wins.

It's good to have that kind of perspective on retainer.


VR and LiveGirls should have a much higher profitability and as a business itself it should be more lucrative.
My point exactly. The world is full of people who think they know better than the creators and operators of a successful product and business model. If you're so good at analyzing business, why don't you go play the stock market and leave the rest of us alone?

Let me just say this loud and clear: I LOVE PLAYING THE SLOT MACHINE GAME.
There. Now we have officially registered a contrary opinion. So when this company continues to live and thrive, giving you what you want, you can come thank me for putting my money in the slot machine and keeping the machine going. You see, I'm a man of the people. The people want porn, and I'm going to help them get it.


I have been a member longer than you and have nearly 5 times a many cards as you
I'm quoting this drivel for posterity.
Your 'Holier Than Thou' attitude is an inspiriation to internet chat rooms everywhere.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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Small reminder concerning the SEC obtained only with games of chance.

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28 September 2020, 86 réponses
Under these conditions it is useful to say on the forum to future iStripper customers, that after spending several thousand dollars on cards, they will have their collections sabotaged with SEC that cannot be bought and obtained. (maybe if they're lucky) at a high price, while living in the frustration of not actually getting them. Especially since many of these girls, but not all, are among the favorites.

And at the end of the day being seen as an old sock, after paying all that money, no longer being customers for them to consider.

Maybe this will make these future customers think twice before investing in iStripper.

An informed customer is worth two, when the rules of the game are clear at the start.

Now what will Devil's Advocate say to those like us who invested in this way of seeing Totem, and who saw the rules of the game change along the way ? Will he laugh with the Devil at the bad blow he inflicted on these buyers, who believed and who still believe in this product, who apart from these frustrations, which are distortions, remains a good entertainment?

For my part, I don't like running away from a problem. That would be making it too easy for Totem.

They have the ability to find alternatives for their best clients, but pretending nothing has happened helps no one, and they included.


Dans ces conditions il est utile de dire sur le forum aux futurs clients d'iStripper, qu'après avoir dépenser plusieurs milliers de dollars pour des cartes, ils vont se faire saboter leurs collections avec des SEC ne pouvant s'acheter et s'obtenir (peut-être s'ils sont chanceux) qu'à gros prix, tout en vivant dans cela de la frustration de ne pas les avoir au final obtenu. Surtout que plusieurs de ces filles, mais pas toutes, font partie des préférées.

Et à la fin se faire considérer comme une vieille chaussette, après avoir payé tout cet argent, n'étant plus des clients à considérer par eux.

Peut-être que cela va ammener ces futurs clients à y repenser à deux fois avant d'investir dans iStripper.

Un client averti en vaut deux, lorsque les règles du jeu sont claires au départ.

Maintenant que va dire l'avocat du Diable à ceux qui comme nous ont investi avant cette façon de voir de Totem, et qui ont vu les règles du jeu changer en cour de route ? Va t-il rire avec le Diable du mauvais coup qu'il a infligé à ces acheteurs, qui ont cru et qui croit toujours à ce produit, qui en dehors de ces frustrations, qui font distorsions, reste un bon divertissement ?

Pour ma part je n'aime pas la fuite face à un problème. Ce serait trop rendre cela facile à Totem.

Ils ont la possibilité de trouver des alternatives pour leurs meilleurs clients, mais de faire comme si de rien n'était n'aide personne, et eux inclus.
x26638184
Inscrit en Oct 2018
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27 September 2020, 86 réponses
Dear friends. I think that wasting time on this is an unnecessary wear and tear and I explain it to you this way:

What is IStripper?
Pornographic multimedia platform

What does it consist of?
  • A semi-collectible system of low-cost cards
  • Higher Cost VR Videos
  • Live Girls Web Cam service of May value still
  • The cards are what is called ¨comidity¨para hooking customers with higher value services or products ( like when you go to buy bread and end up leaving the supermarket with a full cart). You went to buy 1USD and left spending 50 USD for the promotions, hitches and all the machinery arranged for ¨consumer¨

VR and LiveGirls should have a much higher profitability and as a business itself it should be more lucrative. (it's a matter of looking at the values of those services)

The SEC, will never disappear, it takes very few to sustain it as a business area. Commercially it is better for a SEC player to spend 100USD to get a card than 100 spending 1USD buying cards that are outside this system.

Being the devil's advocate part 2 I would say the following:

The company or service provider:
  • I give you a moment of entertainment for little money under my conditions that I hope you like and accept, if you don't like these you can be so kind to go your way as you are an adult and independent person who knows what he is doing and can use his individual right of choice and spend his money where and how he wants.

The user or client:
  • Thank you for your product or service, I appreciate what you offer me, but today you do not meet my personal expectations, and I decide to take other entertainment options that life offers me.
I understand that you do not want to change because it is not in your interest, since I am not the target you want to retain or capture today.
I don't blame you or judge you for that.

When 1 side of the headphones stops playing or sounds bad...The music is no longer the same.
ComteDracula
Inscrit en Aug 2017
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27 September 2020, 86 réponses
Yes iStripper contributes through their games to exploit some people with addiction problems.
Me personally this aspect comes to me, because I work to help vulnerable people, with mental illnesses.

If you have a problem with gambling or mental illness, then the last place you should be is here.
Turn off your computer and go get some help from a real person.

@GreyWolfNH

I never said I had a mental illness problem.

I said that I help people who have addiction issues and mental illness. I am one of those real people, helping vulnerable people. I am therefore well placed to understand this problem.

In this sense, it is a cause of which I am sensitive.

You should be careful how you interpret other people's words.

Totem has changed the way it acts and attracts people by giving them the illusion that they will acquire SEC cards by playing their games. They make them spend a lot of credits and money and often without being able to get the card they wanted.

Which was not the case before.

I have already said it. I have no problem paying more for an SEC card. On the other hand, I want to know what it will cost me and be sure to get it.

I am not a gambler, nor do I go to casinos, nor play slots, or lottery in real life. I'm not interested in being drawn into this kind of trap, being able to see the damage.

I don't want to gamble, I just want to be able to buy cards and watch pretty women dancing on my screen, without having to play games of chance to try and get them.

As a lawyer, I believe the Devil would get rid of your services fairly quickly.


Je n'ai jamais dit que j'avais un problème de maladie mentale.

J'ai dit que j'aide des gens qui ont des problèmes de dépendance et de maladie mentale. Je suis une de ces personnes réelles, qui aide des gens vulnérables. Je suis donc bien placé pour comprendre cette problématique.

En ce sens, c'est une cause dont je suis sensible.

Vous devriez faire attention dans la façon dont vous interprétez les paroles des gens.

Totem a changé sa façon d'agir et attire des gens en leur donnant l'illusion qu'ils vont acquérir des cartes SEC en jouant à leur jeux. Ils leur font dépenser beaucoup de crédits et d'argent et souvent sans pouvoir obtenir la carte qu'ils désiraient.

Ce qui n'était pas le cas auparavant.

Je l'ai déjà dit. Je n'ai pas de problème à payer plus cher pour une carte SEC. Par contre je veux savoir ce qu'elle va me coûter et être certain de l'obtenir.

Je ne suis pas un gambler, je ne vais pas dans des casinos, ni ne joue à des machines à sous, ni à la lotterie dans la vrai vie. Je ne suis pas intéressé à me faire attirer dans ce genre de piège, étant à même de voir les dégats.

Je ne veux pas jouer, je veux juste pouvoir acheter des cartes et admirer de jolies femmes danser sur mon écran, sans être obliger de jouer à des jeux de hasard pour tenter de les obtenir.

Comme avocat, je crois que le Diable se débarasserait de vos services assez rapidement.