@peteand56

@stefnev
usually you can play and play and in the end you get a SEC this time you get a gift card!
so the odds are...

Playing the Twenty Five game gives you the ability to win SEC cards by aligning 3 stars in the board. The latest SEC of Sharon White is one the SEC you can win (if you haven't them all yet) or only Sharon White's SEC if you have all the previous ones.

Tatiana mange tout ? 😄😋

Feel free to add short playlists here for whatever kind of music your into. Keep in mind the models don't have to be in sync to music to be enjoyable. I find music adds to the dreamy quality of my favourites. <(^_^)>

@arise77 I think yes only the 25 game - I've down the cashbach several times and no progess bar movement. I went straight to the girls store from the top menu, perhaps going via special offers makes a difference? I doubt it as that just goes to girl store also.

@wrightsayswow
Thanks for the confirmation. I read Celine's TGIF post again and when looking at the "Special offers" tab, it is rather unclear if buying cards through cashback fills the progress bar.
Oh well, could have been nice but no big deal. Let's enjoy this promo then. 😋

La barre avance avec le Twenty Five, où l'on peut gagner des SEC si on aligne 3 étoiles, dont la dernière de Sharon White.

My point, despite the perhaps divisive use of the word "bullied" is that we're given no option

Yes we are given an option, one that the vast majority of the users have excercised - that is we can choose not to own every card. It is an option that neither of us have taken until now (but see below) though at some point in the future I am sure I will do so, though for different reasons than you. That we don't like the option does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Actually, there was a point after SECs were introduced but before it was possible to gamble for them that I missed out on a couple and at the time there was no way to get them (i.e. there really was no option). I was quite content with that.

Je me souviens il y a une trentaine d'*****ées sur iStripper il y avait le cashback-1, est-ce que son retour est à l'étude?😐

I remember about 30 years ago on iStripper there was cashback-1, is its return under consideration?😐

@wtprivate

With the exception of one word I agree with all that you said in your last post.

But that one word makes a huge difference - we are not "bullied" we are "tempted". It is our fault if we succumb to that temptation.

I disagree. Wholeheartedly.

Yes, it's our choice. It's also a victim's choice to walk away from a bully. Same same.

My point, despite the perhaps divisive use of the word "bullied" is that we're given no option. I have always felt that gambling would be OK as an option - but never as a requirement.

Sadly, Totem thinks differently.

Okay sorry. This is why I end up posting too much - get involved in too many threads. Think I'll have lunch now.
These no easy solution to this is there. Will never satisfy everyone - bit like politics.

Punishing? Where do you get that from?

I seem to remember several posts from people saying that they are being "punished" for their "loyalty". I regard this as nonsense - but it is their term not mine.

Punishing? Where do you get that from?

Well full collections we are only talking about 120 or less

So you want to keep on "punishing" (as some of the complainers express it) those who have full collections of 3k and 4k cards but do not want lower resolution cards, or those that have all 1080p and above, or even those with all except the 480p. Or those that only have all the XXX cards or those that don't want XXX cards. Or, indeed, those that do not already have all the SECs.

If Totem did as you have suggested then I am sure there will be complaints from some of those who, rightly or wrongly, feel that they have been unfairly excluded - much as there is now.

If you can suggest a way that would be guarenteed not to reduce Totem's income

Well full collections we are only talking about 120 or less if I remember last month's figure correctly.
And if they set the nearly there level at perhaps 90-95% of a full collection perhaps Totem would retain the interest of those members, rather than as seems to be mentioned they are not going on spending anymore. And for everyone else an incentive perhaps to get to that level. Then they can buy the SECs they want.
Someone at Totem just needs to work the figures I think.

Let the full or above some level of collection continue buying ALL cards including SECs without the damn gambling.

If you can suggest a way that would be guarenteed not to reduce Totem's income then I suspect that it would stand a good chance of being implemented. As it stands many of these complaints reduce to effectively

I am, of my own free will, spending more on your product than I want to - please allow me to get the same or more from it while spending less

Will we get any chance to have back the cashback-4 version of the offer (as it was in good old times) during 2022?

In my opinion: it would be better to get the offer very very rarely but in its original cashback-4 form than getting it more frequently but in the cashback-5 way.

First time in a very long time I've put credit on the account.
Cashback is the way to go, that's a proper special.

nobody from Totem ever responds on the forums to complaints like this, and questions about it go ignored.

Yes - let's have some response - a solution even better. Let the full or above some level of collection continue buying ALL cards including SECs without the damn gambling.

Mentioning the gift card bar, I bought 5 cards last night, did get cashback on the 5th but the progress bar hasn't moved. I shut down the program & restarted it but still nothing in the progress bar.
Does it only work with the 25 game?

@arise77 I think yes only the 25 game - I've down the cashbach several times and no progess bar movement. I went straight to the girls store from the top menu, perhaps going via special offers makes a difference? I doubt it as that just goes to girl store also.

vous l'avez obtenu par rétrocession!😆

On peut dire ça 😄😄 Mais cela met déjà arrivé dans le passé, d'où ma question à Céline. On dirait que ce CashBack est joueur 😊 Normalement cela redevient normal (5iàme remboursée) par la suite. Nous verrons😳

Et bien il semblerait que le CashBack ai finalement compter la carte achetée à 10h54. Puisqu'il vient de me rembourser la 4ième carte achetée après 11h00 😐
Cela n'était pas ce que je prévoyais, mais bon juste quelques crédits de perdus, pas trop grave 😊

C'est à n'y rien comprendre, dans un des posts antérieurs vous n'aviez pas le cashback à quelques minutes près et là visiblement vous l'avez obtenu par rétrocession!😆

c'est à partir de 11h que le cashback prend en compte les achats :)

Et bien il semblerait que le CashBack ai finalement compter la carte achetée à 10h54. Puisqu'il vient de me rembourser la 4ième carte achetée après 11h00 😐
Cela n'était pas ce que je prévoyais, mais bon juste quelques crédits de perdus, pas trop grave 😊
[quote] it is from 11am that the cashback takes into account purchases:) [/ quote]
Well it seems that the CashBack finally counted the purchased card at 10:54 a.m. Since he just refunded me the 4th card purchased after 11:00 a.m. 😐
It was not what I expected, but hey just a few lost credits, not too bad 😊

Sharon White als unverkäufliche SEC, das verstößt gegen die UN-Folterkonvention!

With another word you might not want to hear both are additions. Question is only your personal level of it and if the first one addiction was that serious, that you topped it with this second one abt. the gambling.

@wtprivate

With the exception of one word I agree with all that you said in your last post.

But that one word makes a huge difference - we are not "bullied" we are "tempted". It is our fault if we succumb to that temptation.

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page
One of which seems to tag her, as an amateur! Or is it only her feet ?

I went to that site and was not able to find that pic. There were only videos there. There was I think one video of her under the name Caprice.

BTW, here are a few more of her from FB with clothes on her body to make her acceptable there, but her legs and feet naked and airborne.

@ComteDracula: Here's the thing - the solution to this problem is, and always has been, quite simple.

People like myself who have large collection and purhcase every card are essentially "bullied" into playing these silly games. The "*****" for the collector is having ALL the cards - not excluding some that are made out of reach. Essentially, these are your "whales" who will eat up every piece of content you produce.

On the other hand, new customers coming in are more likely to spend bigger in the short term - so the business model is biased more towards them, with the games used to up the profit from these new players.

It's always been perplexing to me that collectors with large collections are treated EXACTLY THE SAME as new customers in these games. Case in point - a "Gift Card" is worth LESS to me than a new player, because I could have purchased cards (before Totem sucked up all my credits with these games) cheaper than a new player with a smaller collection on a lower tier. So, by being a loyal customer, my participation in these games is actually LESS profitable for me than for someone who literally just joined the customer base.

For this reason, I've always hoped Totem would see the sense in making SECs available to purchase for members above a certain rating AND who are Premium members. These customers likely don't care for the gambling games, and would probably pay a premium anyway ... not to mention that the attraction of this would be a great incentive for new players to build their collections. Which reminds me - I need to cancel my Premium membership, too.

However, instead, Totem has cast aside the loyal customer, and actively CHOSEN to treat them poorly (don't tell me for one minute they don't realise what they are doing).

Again, they could do the right thing and focus on keeping CUSTOMERS loyal, instead they are focused on MONEY and money alone.

I'm one small example of what they could have had - a customer who would gladly spend the $500 or so a year (including the Premium membership) and was delighted when they introduced the "Auto Buy" option (I had suggested it multiple times, as I am sure others had). I also purchased all the VR content - and VR Paradise and all the DLC. Happily.

But - by denying me the thing I came for - a FULL collection of cards - instead they have ***** me for life and lost me for good. I'll never spend another dollar on iStripper because of what it has become. So, if you consider I would have happily stayed for at least 5-10 years at $500 a year, that's $5,000 they've kissed goodbye.

But do they care? Of course not ... they can always find more suckers who will spend well above that. While I get the profit motive, it's always nice to think there's a bit of humanity behind it. Sadly, I feel like the owners of Totem no longer care about anybody but themselves. They have to live with that - not me.

Someone once told me that "money is like a magnifying glass - it makes you more of what you are". I guess we know what kind of people they are by their behaviours and actions. To confirm that, nobody from Totem ever responds on the forums to complaints like this, and questions about it go ignored. It's wanton and - I think - greedy behaviour. If they had a clear conscience and an ethical business, they would be bending over backwards to look after their customers.

Again, such a shame. I'd love to keep giving them my money, but sadly - my money has a conscience. But again, they won't care - they will just find more people to repeat the cycle.

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page

One of which seems to tag her, as an amateur! Or is it only her feet ?

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page. Forum rules here do not allow for any other of her names to posted, but if you PM me I will be glad to send you the name or the page link.

Hi everyone,
It's nice to see the cashback return. Plus it's available for 2 weeks & you can get gift cards along the way like for other TGIF offers. Thanks for that @Totem! 👍😊

Mentioning the gift card bar, I bought 5 cards last night, did get cashback on the 5th but the progress bar hasn't moved. I shut down the program & restarted it but still nothing in the progress bar.
Does it only work with the 25 game?
Thanks.

AMAZING!! So curvy, hot and SENSUAL!!!!!!!!!!!

What is this for shady kind of business...

Was filling in my payment information, saw this offer and when I saw auto-bill immediatly rejected.
The mobile page refreshed though and I had to provide information again, this time quicker and apparently forgot to uncheck the offer box (which is checked by default... real shady Totem...).

The issues now are...

• The "free" isn't free at all, have just been charged with 2,- euro (Epoch Gamma US CAUS)
• I haven't received an account, promo code or e-mail, not anything at all
• But even without providing me anything they can bill me and will probably auto-bill me in 3 days

So I too am worried about auto-bill

Tatiana Coco has me, instant love 💖💖

I'm seeing a lot of gorgeous hot Spanish girls coming out on iStripper since last year which includes me lady Mia Sun.

What surprises me is that there are always people who play their games to get the SEC.

So, are you are regularly surprised by your own behaviour - you seem to have a full collection - or only surprised that others behave in the same way.

I can't understand this contradiction between what they say and what they do.

Awesome debut card.😉

@MacNK7: You hit the nail on the head. Good businesses care about people. Ugly businesses care only about money.

NICELY buxxum, I'll be getting ALL of her shows. Thanks for providing a good variety, I like to have choices for my differing moods!

Je viens de remarquer que de toute façon la barre ne bouge pas avec le cashback.
C'est sans doute pour ça que même la nouvelle carte SEC n'est pas déverrouillable cette fois ci.

Help

The comment section doesnt help at all and there is no more information of how many xxx scenes are

This model is top notch giving Wylette a run for her money as the number one "College" Girl on iStripoer.

I love it. Looking forward to more, she is great.

What a good show Love her moves.

What surprises me is that there are always people who play their games to get the SEC.

There are often bugs and frustrations in the games, people ***** and the whole thing starts again in the next games.

And this, even if every time, many testimonies made on the forum, show that we have all advantage to not play it, to bring changes concerning the SEC.

It is only when Totem does not make any more money with the games of chance, that they will perhaps change their strategy?

Of course there are many new people who get caught, but for the older customers who say they ***** and don't support these games, I can't understand this contradiction between what they say and what they do.

With this kind of behavior, it is obvious that nothing is going to change.

To me it's pretty obvious that customers with large collections, who are no longer as profitable for them, are negligible to them.

They figure they'll catch new ones that will bring them even more money with the games and SEC as a hook.

I am sure that the policy of games and the release of SECs at a higher frequency is very profitable for them. The collections, must cost more too, than when I made my card purchases, without all these games, but with real promotions much more interesting for the customers.


Moi ce qui me surprend, c'est de voir qu'il y a toujours des gens qui jouent à leurs jeux pour obtenir les SEC.

Il y a souvent des bogues et des frustrations dans les jeux, les gens se plaignent et le tout recommence lors des prochains jeux.

Et ce, même si à toutes les fois, plusieurs témoignages faits sur le forum, démontrent que nous avons tout avantage à ne pas y jouer, pour amener des changements concernant les SEC.

Ce n'est que lorsque Totem ne fera plus d'argent avec les jeux de hasard, qu'ils vont peut-être changer leur stratégie ?

Évidemment il y a plusieurs nouveaux qui se font prendre, mais concernant les plus vieux clients, qui disent qu'ils détestent et n'appuient pas ces jeux, je ne peux comprendre cette contradiction entre ce qu'ils disent et ce qu'ils font.

Avec ce genre de comportement, il est évident que rien ne va changer.

Pour moi il est assez évident que les clients ayant une grande collection, et qui ne sont plus aussi rentables pour eux, sont négligeables pour eux.

Ils se disent qu'ils vont en attraper des nouveaux qui vont leur apporter encore plus d'argent avec les jeux et les SEC comme hameçon.

Je suis certain que la politique des jeux et de la sortie des SEC à une plus grande fréquence est très rentable pour eux. Les collections, doivent coûter plus cher aussi, qu'à l'époque ou j'ai fait mes achats de cartes, sans tous ces jeux. mais avec des vraies promotions beaucoup plus intéressantes pour les clients.

I am enjoying this Cashback thing. <(^_^)>

Answer for me tonight is one Joker... sorry I could not resist longer to see Sharon White in such pink lingerie. 😋

To all that have eagerly waited for the comeback of the Cashback promotion this is now time to rush and spend all the credits you have saved for the past months and why not to also get the 250 or even 500 Nice Shot achievement. 😎

Nota Bene: I am not paid by Totem... 😉

C'est limite temps mieux que la barre de progression serve à rien la majeure parti du temps. On en ai que plus raisonnable.

Je suis tout de même bien content d'avoir tout les shows de Jia Lissa et d'Eva Elfie. Le reste c'est facultatif.

I'm getting tired of all these SEC's :(
What's so wrong with being able to buy the cards that I want?
Why can I only buy a CHANCE to get the card that I want?
The answer is simple. Abusing gambling addiction is incredibly profitable.
I definitely feel less and less inclined to support iStripper with each passing week.
Hope something changes soon or they might start ***** customers.

It has already begun; not everyone who leaves iStripper is going to post about it in the forums first. Most of them will just leave. The SEC's are bogus. They aren't any different than a standard card. They just cost a lot more. I do understand those who want a full collection and i think it's ***** ccustomer service to deny those who have every card the opportunity to at lease purchase the SEC. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT CARE, PEOPLE. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY. Stop giving it to them and maybe they will listen!

As is the case with micro transactions in video games- they only need a small amount of people to spend the money to get the SEC's. They don't care about the majority who seem to rightfully dislike this system. They aren't going away- if they didn't make bank on them they wouldn't do it. They only care about the small minority.

👍 Agree.