À ma connaissance non, mais rien n'empêche de parler de vos préoccupations sur de fil de discussion, si cela est aidant pour vous. 😊

C'est juste que comme on a parlé de long et en large des SEC sur d'autres fils de discussions, je ne veux pas que ça parasite inutilement ce fil de discussion. De toute façon il semble assez évident que pour les SEC et les jeux, Totem ne changera pas sa politique.

Si cela avait eu à se produire, les changements auraient été apporté il y a longtemps.

Les seuls changements ont été la barre de progression ou je me suis risqué à jouer deux ou trois fois, avec des résultats plus ou moins heureux ou malheureux, c'est selon. La Joker Card et la carte Gift, qui ne s'obtiennent encore une fois que par les jeux, et la fréquence plus rapide de sortie des cartes SEC, qui encore là, la plupart du temps ne s'obtiennent que par les jeux.

On ne peut pas dire que c'est être à l'écoute des collectionneurs qui ne veulent pas jouer à des jeux.

Pour les collectionneurs qui n'aiment pas les jeux comme moi, et qui ont toute la collection, la seule option intéressante est la SEC offerte avec l'achat de toutes les cartes d'un mois. C'est la première option qui existait à la création des SEC.

En passant, je n'ai maintenant plus toute la collection, n'ayant pas la dernière SEC, et n'ayant pas le désir de l'obtenir par les jeux.

Mais si vous avez des questions encore sur ce sujet, rien n'empêche d'y répondre ici. C'est juste que je ne veux pas que ça devienne un débat sur les pour et les contre, et sur les suppositions à savoir pourquoi c'est ainsi. C'est assez évident que la réponse égale profit supérieur pour Totem.

@ComteDracula: existe t il un autre sujet francophone où l'ont peut parler de iStripper, sans que ce soit spécifiquement à proprement parler "de l'aide" ?

J'avoue que sans cesse traduire les conversations avec les anglophones m'use à la longue. Vivement que la feature de traduction incorporée soit oppérationnelle.

Félicitations, vous avez surmonté tout ceci et du coup en réduisant à néant le taux de frustration,i vous en réduisez les tensions internes avec un site censé n'apporter que du plaisir. C'est ça le développement personnel. 😉

Erreur, la frustration de l'incompréhension de Totem face aux collectionneurs, me fait penser de plus en plus sérieusement à la possibilité d'aller à la fin de mes crédits, ne plus renouveler mon statut "Premium, et cesser à la fin toute autres dépenses sur ce site.

En effet ce site au départ avait l'impact d'apporter du plaisir, maintenant pour moi, ce n'est plus entièrement le cas.

Totem a complètement et délibérément oublié les collectionneurs, en transformant la nature des SEC et des TGIF en jeux de hasard.

Chosen or ***** it boils down to the same thing. If you are a true collector you collect. Thats what you do. And the only way to collect ALL is to gamble. @wtprivate is right. I am nowhere near to a full collection but even I can see it is unfair to members who have a full collection on top of a premium membership to be treated the same (or in fact worse from a certain pov) than a bronze member.

simple solution

1) Create a new membership level call it whatever you want let's say Vibranium membership. Anyone with with the new highest membership level automatically gets all new S.E.C released going forward. Old SEC will still require a Joker card for obvious legal reasons in order to obtain vibranium member status you must have a minimum or 90% off all iStripper cards (excluding 480 which are not istripper cards anyway but vg 2) and be a premium member.

2) Make premium membership (available to all customers) a monthly fee of 9.99 a month. Premium members can download previews of cards that include one full nudity clip. Purchase card if you want the full show (all clips). Add new features to premium. First new feature is early access to all new cards released let's say one week before general release. Second new feature free access to previously unreleased material. Third new feature behind the scenes access of new video shoots and photo shoots. Fourth new feature Live video Q&A with one model per month (questions picked beefore hand from questions submitted via the forum). plus any other new features the team can come up with e.g fansign each month.

3) Make gift cards available for general purchase at the cost of 35 base credits. ANd give all customers the ability to send these gift cards to anyone they choose via a simple link. Would be a great way to introduce the app to your friends.

4) in future Gambling games like say slot machine those who have full collections get disconnts on gift cards instead of regulad cards. Same with progressive refill or whatever its called. You get disconnts on gift cards instead of normal cards wont need to pin anything ha ha

@Sexy3DBoy: Dans le post précédent mon message: "si on alligne trois étoiles".
Le "Si" en question était justement une histoire d'alléatoire. Je ne faisait référance à rien d'autre.

Evidemment que je comprends les règles, c'est pas pour rien que je préfère personnellement avoir au minima une garanti de secours d'obtenir un joker. Et que je ne me lance pas à l'aveuglette quand ce n'est pas le cas.

D'ailleurs durant l'event lié à Little Caprice, le jeu Twenty Five m'avais fait ganer un joker et une SEC. Mais ça reste moindre que ce que les barres de progression dans le même temps m'ont offerte (gain dont j'avais l'assurance d'optenir contrairement au jeu).

Pour ma part j'ai décidé de ne plus avoir toutes les cartes et de ne plus jouer à ces jeux, qui sont devenus la plus grande source de revenu de Totem, et source de frustration pour plusieurs pour obtenir les SEC. Surtout quand on n'est pas un joueur.

Félicitations, vous avez surmonté tout ceci et du coup en réduisant à néant le taux de frustration,i vous en réduisez les tensions internes avec un site censé n'apporter que du plaisir. C'est ça le développement personnel. 😉

Avec des si on met Paris en bouteille. Tenter dès maintenant de collecté la SEC de Sharon, me semble une tentative à haut risque sans garanti de succès.

22 votes seulement. Donc ça en dit long sur l'accessibilité de la dite carte.

Si je peux me permettre et sauf erreur de ma part, je n'ai pas vu de "SI" sur les précédents posts. Ce sont des jeux avec du hasard dont il faut bien saisir les règles.

Maintenant pour ce qui est du nombre de votes, je ne suis pas sûr (mais je peux me tromper) que cela soit révélateur du taux de réussite. Il faudrait pour cela faire des statistiques.

Je ne veux pas que l'on parte un débat sur de fil de discussion, qui doit en rester un d'aide pour les francophones.

Et bien contentons de nous dire que pour optimisé le cash back, il faut faire attention à aquérir la plus chère en cinquième position.

Concernant les Joker et SEC, il y aura à l'avenir de meilleur opportunité. C'est un conseil, chacun en fait ce qui veut.

@stefnev1: Je vois mal comment il serait possible d'obliger concrètement quiconque. Donc dire que Totem ne fais pas quelque chose qui n'est de toute façon pas dans ses capacités d'entrprendre n'apporte pas grand chose. C'est juste une phrase random de communication, étant donné ton rôle de modérateur, tu te sent par principe de défendre Totem (même si ce que j'écris n'est pas à proprement parler une attaque direct).

Ce que jexprime, c'est qu'il y aura d'autres occasions et que Totem nous réserve parfois de bonnes/meilleures surprises. Et qu'il est donc smart d'attendre ses occasions là concernant l'aquisition de SEC ou de joker.

Présentement, c'est plus l'occasion d'aquerrir les cartes un peu plus chère en cinquième carte offerte. C'est un peu comme avoir une carte cadeau après quatre achat (voilà pourquoi c'est pas si dérangeant que la barre de progression ne progresse pas avec le cash back).

Tous les utilisateurs ont leur entier libre-arbitre pour jouer ou non. Personne n'est obligé à quoi que ce soit et c'est bien ainsi.

Sauf les collectionneurs qui veulent avoir toutes les cartes , et qui oblige pour cela à jouer à ces jeux. Et ça Totem le sait très bien.

Pour ma part j'ai décidé de ne plus avoir toutes les cartes et de ne plus jouer à ces jeux, qui sont devenus la plus grande source de revenu de Totem, et source de frustration pour plusieurs pour obtenir les SEC. Surtout quand on n'est pas un joueur.

Ceci est juste une précision sur ce que vous venez d'écrire @stefnev1, en lien à ma compréhension des évènements.

Je ne veux pas que l'on parte un débat sur de fil de discussion, qui doit en rester un d'aide pour les francophones.

I find music adds to the dreamy quality of my favorite models and I don't need them to be in sync to find it enjoyable.

Genre: Rock/mixed

Soundtrack playlist:

Music Inspired by iStripper Vol. 1 (Unofficial)

1. All In The Suit That You Wear by Stone Temple Pilots

2. Bad Girl's World by Halestorm

3. Sex and Candy by Marcy Playground

4. Only Love Can Save Me Now by The Pretty Reckless

5. Hush by Cavo

6. Closer as performed by In This Moment

7. Crushed by Collective Soul

8. Say You Will by Evanescence

9. Get Me Over You by Black Stone Cherry

10. My Sweet Unvalentine by New Years Day

11. Wicked Game as performed by Theory of a Deadman

Ok, I close this one.

Ok thanks, please remove the thread.

@Socialhazard
Unfortunately, the moderators can't move a thread in another thread, the forum doesn't give this possibility. You can use the thread that I've copied the link above to put your suggestions.

Tous les utilisateurs ont leur entier libre-arbitre pour jouer ou non. Personne n'est obligé à quoi que ce soit et c'est bien ainsi.

Again you misunderstand.

My point is that if your goal is to collect all the cards, the only way to do this is to play the gambling games.

I totally understand - and have repeatedly said that i agree with you on this very point.

What I disagree on is whether you you are ***** to do this or choose, however reluctently, to do it. Until now you have chosen to do so.

Avec des si on met Paris en bouteille. Tenter dès maintenant de collecté la SEC de Sharon, me semble une tentative à haut risque sans garanti de succès.

22 votes seulement. Donc ça en dit long sur l'accessibilité de la dite carte.

Patience, dans l'*****ée il y aura sans doute un grand événement de plus grande envergure comme l'an passé. (A l'occasion de la SEC de Little Caprice, il y avait eu six Joker à débloquer: 3, 2 puis 1 à chaque progression de barre).

Peut être à l'occasion du relooking prévu cette *****ée, on aura un super truc.

Again you misunderstand.

My point is that if your goal is to collect all the cards, the only way to do this is to play the gambling games.

In the past few months, this has cost me over 2,200 credits - about $220. Granted, I had the “option” not to play and miss out on the SECs, but how else could I complete my collection?

So now, I am exercising my other true option which is to stop spending my money with Totem altogether. I fail to see how this is ultimately good for business, but they clearly can’t hear me for the sound of their cash register ringing.

So, iStripper is no longer interested in collectors it would seem - which again confirms my point about their bias towards new customers over loyal ones. It very likely makes economic sense for them, but it has sure left a bad taste in my mouth.

Sorry I couldn't find it, can you move it to that tread?

Playlist Music Genre: Rock/Mixed

Playlist Name: Music Inspired by iStripper Vol.1

1. All In The Suit That You Wear by Stone Temple Pilots

2. Bad Girls World by Halestorm

3. Sex and Candy by Marcy Playground

4. Only Love Can Save Me Now (feat. Matt Cameron and Kim Thayil) by The Pretty Reckless

5. Hush by Cavo

6. Closer as performed by In This Moment

7. Crushed by Collective Soul

8. Say You Will by Evanescence

9. Get Me Over You by Black Stone Cherry

10. My Sweet Unvalentine by New Years Day

11. Wicked Game as performed by Theory of a Deadman

@mrgame4444
This card has a total of 8 clips, 2 of them are previews. Total play time 36 minutes.

A thread already exists with plenty of musics given by the members. Read here https://www.istripper.com/fr/forum/thread/34279/28?post=710527

@peteand56

@stefnev
usually you can play and play and in the end you get a SEC this time you get a gift card!
so the odds are...

Playing the Twenty Five game gives you the ability to win SEC cards by aligning 3 stars in the board. The latest SEC of Sharon White is one the SEC you can win (if you haven't them all yet) or only Sharon White's SEC if you have all the previous ones.

Tatiana mange tout ? 😄😋

Feel free to add short playlists here for whatever kind of music your into. Keep in mind the models don't have to be in sync to music to be enjoyable. I find music adds to the dreamy quality of my favourites. <(^_^)>

@arise77 I think yes only the 25 game - I've down the cashbach several times and no progess bar movement. I went straight to the girls store from the top menu, perhaps going via special offers makes a difference? I doubt it as that just goes to girl store also.

@wrightsayswow
Thanks for the confirmation. I read Celine's TGIF post again and when looking at the "Special offers" tab, it is rather unclear if buying cards through cashback fills the progress bar.
Oh well, could have been nice but no big deal. Let's enjoy this promo then. 😋

La barre avance avec le Twenty Five, où l'on peut gagner des SEC si on aligne 3 étoiles, dont la dernière de Sharon White.

My point, despite the perhaps divisive use of the word "bullied" is that we're given no option

Yes we are given an option, one that the vast majority of the users have excercised - that is we can choose not to own every card. It is an option that neither of us have taken until now (but see below) though at some point in the future I am sure I will do so, though for different reasons than you. That we don't like the option does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Actually, there was a point after SECs were introduced but before it was possible to gamble for them that I missed out on a couple and at the time there was no way to get them (i.e. there really was no option). I was quite content with that.

Je me souviens il y a une trentaine d'*****ées sur iStripper il y avait le cashback-1, est-ce que son retour est à l'étude?😐

I remember about 30 years ago on iStripper there was cashback-1, is its return under consideration?😐

@wtprivate

With the exception of one word I agree with all that you said in your last post.

But that one word makes a huge difference - we are not "bullied" we are "tempted". It is our fault if we succumb to that temptation.

I disagree. Wholeheartedly.

Yes, it's our choice. It's also a victim's choice to walk away from a bully. Same same.

My point, despite the perhaps divisive use of the word "bullied" is that we're given no option. I have always felt that gambling would be OK as an option - but never as a requirement.

Sadly, Totem thinks differently.

Okay sorry. This is why I end up posting too much - get involved in too many threads. Think I'll have lunch now.
These no easy solution to this is there. Will never satisfy everyone - bit like politics.

Punishing? Where do you get that from?

I seem to remember several posts from people saying that they are being "punished" for their "loyalty". I regard this as nonsense - but it is their term not mine.

Punishing? Where do you get that from?

Well full collections we are only talking about 120 or less

So you want to keep on "punishing" (as some of the complainers express it) those who have full collections of 3k and 4k cards but do not want lower resolution cards, or those that have all 1080p and above, or even those with all except the 480p. Or those that only have all the XXX cards or those that don't want XXX cards. Or, indeed, those that do not already have all the SECs.

If Totem did as you have suggested then I am sure there will be complaints from some of those who, rightly or wrongly, feel that they have been unfairly excluded - much as there is now.

If you can suggest a way that would be guarenteed not to reduce Totem's income

Well full collections we are only talking about 120 or less if I remember last month's figure correctly.
And if they set the nearly there level at perhaps 90-95% of a full collection perhaps Totem would retain the interest of those members, rather than as seems to be mentioned they are not going on spending anymore. And for everyone else an incentive perhaps to get to that level. Then they can buy the SECs they want.
Someone at Totem just needs to work the figures I think.

Let the full or above some level of collection continue buying ALL cards including SECs without the damn gambling.

If you can suggest a way that would be guarenteed not to reduce Totem's income then I suspect that it would stand a good chance of being implemented. As it stands many of these complaints reduce to effectively

I am, of my own free will, spending more on your product than I want to - please allow me to get the same or more from it while spending less

Will we get any chance to have back the cashback-4 version of the offer (as it was in good old times) during 2022?

In my opinion: it would be better to get the offer very very rarely but in its original cashback-4 form than getting it more frequently but in the cashback-5 way.

First time in a very long time I've put credit on the account.
Cashback is the way to go, that's a proper special.

nobody from Totem ever responds on the forums to complaints like this, and questions about it go ignored.

Yes - let's have some response - a solution even better. Let the full or above some level of collection continue buying ALL cards including SECs without the damn gambling.

Mentioning the gift card bar, I bought 5 cards last night, did get cashback on the 5th but the progress bar hasn't moved. I shut down the program & restarted it but still nothing in the progress bar.
Does it only work with the 25 game?

@arise77 I think yes only the 25 game - I've down the cashbach several times and no progess bar movement. I went straight to the girls store from the top menu, perhaps going via special offers makes a difference? I doubt it as that just goes to girl store also.

vous l'avez obtenu par rétrocession!😆

On peut dire ça 😄😄 Mais cela met déjà arrivé dans le passé, d'où ma question à Céline. On dirait que ce CashBack est joueur 😊 Normalement cela redevient normal (5iàme remboursée) par la suite. Nous verrons😳

Et bien il semblerait que le CashBack ai finalement compter la carte achetée à 10h54. Puisqu'il vient de me rembourser la 4ième carte achetée après 11h00 😐
Cela n'était pas ce que je prévoyais, mais bon juste quelques crédits de perdus, pas trop grave 😊

C'est à n'y rien comprendre, dans un des posts antérieurs vous n'aviez pas le cashback à quelques minutes près et là visiblement vous l'avez obtenu par rétrocession!😆

c'est à partir de 11h que le cashback prend en compte les achats :)

Et bien il semblerait que le CashBack ai finalement compter la carte achetée à 10h54. Puisqu'il vient de me rembourser la 4ième carte achetée après 11h00 😐
Cela n'était pas ce que je prévoyais, mais bon juste quelques crédits de perdus, pas trop grave 😊
[quote] it is from 11am that the cashback takes into account purchases:) [/ quote]
Well it seems that the CashBack finally counted the purchased card at 10:54 a.m. Since he just refunded me the 4th card purchased after 11:00 a.m. 😐
It was not what I expected, but hey just a few lost credits, not too bad 😊

Sharon White als unverkäufliche SEC, das verstößt gegen die UN-Folterkonvention!

With another word you might not want to hear both are additions. Question is only your personal level of it and if the first one addiction was that serious, that you topped it with this second one abt. the gambling.

@wtprivate

With the exception of one word I agree with all that you said in your last post.

But that one word makes a huge difference - we are not "bullied" we are "tempted". It is our fault if we succumb to that temptation.

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page
One of which seems to tag her, as an amateur! Or is it only her feet ?

I went to that site and was not able to find that pic. There were only videos there. There was I think one video of her under the name Caprice.

BTW, here are a few more of her from FB with clothes on her body to make her acceptable there, but her legs and feet naked and airborne.

@ComteDracula: Here's the thing - the solution to this problem is, and always has been, quite simple.

People like myself who have large collection and purhcase every card are essentially "bullied" into playing these silly games. The "*****" for the collector is having ALL the cards - not excluding some that are made out of reach. Essentially, these are your "whales" who will eat up every piece of content you produce.

On the other hand, new customers coming in are more likely to spend bigger in the short term - so the business model is biased more towards them, with the games used to up the profit from these new players.

It's always been perplexing to me that collectors with large collections are treated EXACTLY THE SAME as new customers in these games. Case in point - a "Gift Card" is worth LESS to me than a new player, because I could have purchased cards (before Totem sucked up all my credits with these games) cheaper than a new player with a smaller collection on a lower tier. So, by being a loyal customer, my participation in these games is actually LESS profitable for me than for someone who literally just joined the customer base.

For this reason, I've always hoped Totem would see the sense in making SECs available to purchase for members above a certain rating AND who are Premium members. These customers likely don't care for the gambling games, and would probably pay a premium anyway ... not to mention that the attraction of this would be a great incentive for new players to build their collections. Which reminds me - I need to cancel my Premium membership, too.

However, instead, Totem has cast aside the loyal customer, and actively CHOSEN to treat them poorly (don't tell me for one minute they don't realise what they are doing).

Again, they could do the right thing and focus on keeping CUSTOMERS loyal, instead they are focused on MONEY and money alone.

I'm one small example of what they could have had - a customer who would gladly spend the $500 or so a year (including the Premium membership) and was delighted when they introduced the "Auto Buy" option (I had suggested it multiple times, as I am sure others had). I also purchased all the VR content - and VR Paradise and all the DLC. Happily.

But - by denying me the thing I came for - a FULL collection of cards - instead they have ***** me for life and lost me for good. I'll never spend another dollar on iStripper because of what it has become. So, if you consider I would have happily stayed for at least 5-10 years at $500 a year, that's $5,000 they've kissed goodbye.

But do they care? Of course not ... they can always find more suckers who will spend well above that. While I get the profit motive, it's always nice to think there's a bit of humanity behind it. Sadly, I feel like the owners of Totem no longer care about anybody but themselves. They have to live with that - not me.

Someone once told me that "money is like a magnifying glass - it makes you more of what you are". I guess we know what kind of people they are by their behaviours and actions. To confirm that, nobody from Totem ever responds on the forums to complaints like this, and questions about it go ignored. It's wanton and - I think - greedy behaviour. If they had a clear conscience and an ethical business, they would be bending over backwards to look after their customers.

Again, such a shame. I'd love to keep giving them my money, but sadly - my money has a conscience. But again, they won't care - they will just find more people to repeat the cycle.

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page

One of which seems to tag her, as an amateur! Or is it only her feet ?

Here are a couple of PG pics posted of Little Captrice on Facebook on her real name fan page. Forum rules here do not allow for any other of her names to posted, but if you PM me I will be glad to send you the name or the page link.