@ComteDracula

To my knowledge this service was already free.

It was free (the streaming service that is, not the cards) but now it isn't. It became a subscription based "add on" to the yesterday.

Us regular users are what makes this work, so no, iStripper will not be committing ***** today. 😎 (Just my opinion. 😕 )

I feel like we are well on the way to multiple categories of users. Mobile only crowd, cryptobros (they won't get into the app itself), and us regular users at the very bottom.

😕... 👍 😎

Beaucoup de bonnes cartes récentes en version mobile (y compris vidéos et photos bonus) et 3 de plus par semaine pour un abonnement. Certainement intéressant pour de nouveaux utilisateurs. Rejoindront-ils l'application? Participeront-ils aux ventes aux enchères? Participeront-ils aux TGIF pour obtenir les SEC? Pas sûr 😐
Pour les utilisateurs de l'application, il est certain que nous pouvons ressentir cette nouvelle méthode commerciale comme une suppression d'un avantage. Je ne pense pas que beaucoup cumuleront les 2 possibilités de regarder leurs spectacles. Nous allons probablement vers 2 catégories d'utilisateurs 😊

Lots of good recent cards in mobile version (including bonus videos and photos) and 3 more per week for a subscription. Certainly interesting for new users. Will they join the app? Will they participate in the auctions? Will they participate in the TGIF to obtain the SEC? Not sure 😐
For the users of the application, it is certain that we can feel this new business method as a removal of an advantage. I don't think many will combine the 2 opportunities to watch their shows. We are probably going towards 2 categories of users 😊

For me the whole point of IS is that it's passive; it runs on my computer while I do other things.

I just looked at some of the details and the mobile price seems high in the context of an add-on so hopefully Totem will find a way to givie buying members free credits on a regular basis. Maybe free credit with with card purchases or something.

For the mobile only customer it's a new product and the price seems reasonable but I'm not a customer so not sure what fair is.

If some of the exclusive cards are available I might check it out myself one day but still from my desktop browser if possible.

That's fair, but it is how I signed up. It wasn't extra. Anyways, I am not ***** as I prefer PC version anyway. 😎

(I don't stream, like ever. I barely have "socials" 😆 )

When was it free?

It was free when it was first released; I haven't looked at it since but this is the 1st I've heard of not being free. I was just a mobile website from what I can remember. You can still get there by going to m.istripper.com but now it's the new paid site.

I thought it was well done but never even thought of using IS on my phone and don't want an app on my phone for sure but seems fair to charge something. I'm sure it cost Totem time and money for the extra content. I think it was offering me a free trail; it might be worth a look if you want to see IS on your device.

@ComteDracula

With respect to the specific topic of iStripper's mobile service - have you considered that Totem may well be making a loss by providing this as a free service, a loss that was not fully compensated for by an increase in card sales.

When was it free? 😕

I signed up on mobile when I joined by the way.

To my knowledge this service was already free.

True, I didn't use it often, but the few times (and it's been a long time) that I did use it, I could see my purchased cards there.

It's just that they added elements to make it pay. Elements that I don't think were necessary.

But maybe I'm a bad judge, since I never knew that people had asked for improvements to this service. Also as @Philours said, I'm not sure people would have wanted these services, if they knew there would be a cost to it.


À ma connaissance ce service était déjà gratuit.

ll est vrai que je n l'ai pas utilisé souvent, mais les rares fois (et cela fait longtemps) où j'en ai fait usage, je pouvais y voir mes cartes achetés.

C'est juste qu'ils ont ajoutés des éléments pour le rendre payant. Éléments selon moi qui n'étaient peut-être pas nécessaires.

Mais je suis peut-être mauvais juge, puisque je n'avais jamais eu connaisance que des gens avaient demandés des améliorations à ce service. De plus comme le disais @Philours, je ne suis pas certains que les gens auraient souhaitez ces services, s'ils avaient su qu'il y aurait un coût à cela.

@ComteDracula

With respect to the specific topic of iStripper's mobile service - have you considered that Totem may well be making a loss by providing this as a free service, a loss that was not fully compensated for by an increase in card sales.

I would say that it is rather an exchange of points of view.

It is because of the different worldviews in which they have been stated that progress has been possible.

Je dirais que c'est plutôt un échange de points de vue.

C'est grâce à des visions différentes du monde dans lesquelles elles ont été énoncés, que des progrès ont été possibles.

As we have often said, the reason Totem behaves this way is because they are alone in their kind and have no competition.

Which is just my point - why do you think Totem should behave differently ? It doesn't matter if their actions to increase income annoy some of their customers (or even all of their customers) as long as they do not annoy them enough to reduce their profits. As you say, if they had direct competition then the balance would be different - but they don't and it isn't. Arguing about what would be the right actions in a different world is not going to help much in this one.

As always I fail to see why you think that Totem should behave differently to almost every other business. Why are you apparently surprised that they are working for their own advantage rather than yours.

For a company to work for its own benefit is also to work for the customers who pay for and encourage their products. No customer, no money, no business.

There is no incompatibility here. I would even say that it is complementary.

As we have often said, the reason Totem behaves this way is because they are alone in their kind and have no competition.

Pour une entreprise, travailler pour son propre avantage, c'est aussi travailler pour les clients qui paient et encourage leurs produits. Pas de client, pas d'argent, pas d'entrepirise.

Il n'y a pas incompatibilité. ici. Je dirais même que c'est complémentaire.

Nous l'avons souvent dit, si Totem se comporte ainsi, c'est parce qu'il sont seul dans leur genre et n'ont pas de compétition.

IStripper although being a means of entertainment, should not be a gamers tool.

The problem also is that we are always presented with a fait accompli. Like here with the changes in the mobile iStripper.

As always I fail to see why you think that Totem should behave differently to almost every other business. Why are you apparently surprised that they are working for their own advantage rather than yours.

What you describe @orclover, is what I personally blame Totem for.

Instead of playing fair and explaining that the context requires raising prices (this should have been done gradually over time), which would have been shared by all customers, they have created ways, to bring people into projects (gambling and cryptocurrency and NFC among others), which are not desired by all. This leads to the exclusion here of cards, which some members would have agreed to pay a little more, if it helps the company, its employees, the operating costs and to pay the girls well of course.

I think we are dealing with gamers at Totem, who ignore the collectors.

What I personally ***** is not knowing in advance the price I will pay for a product. If everything is well explained, like anyone else I'm able to use my intelligence, and I'm going to agree to pay more.

IStripper although being a means of entertainment, should not be a gamers tool.

The problem also is that we are always presented with a fait accompli. Like here with the changes in the mobile iStripper.

It must also be said that if there has been an improvement in the technology for the quality of the cards (modernity obliges), the choice of the girls has decreased a lot. The returns of the same girl have now become the "norm".


Ce que vous décrivez @orclover, est ce que personnellement je reproche à Totem.

Au lieu de jouer franc jeu et expliquer que le contexte demande à élever les prix (cela aurait dû se faire progressivement avec le temps), qui aurait été partagé par l'ensemble des clients, ceux-ci ont créer des moyens, pour ammener les gens dans des projets (jeux de hasard et cryptomonnaie et NFC entre autres), qui ne sont pas désirés par tous. Cela ammène à exclure ici des cartes, dont certains membres auraient été en accord pour payer un peu plus cher, si cela aide la compagnie, ses employés, les frais de fonctionnement et à bien payer les filles évidemment.

Moi je pense que nous avons affaire chez Totem à des gamers, qui ignore les collectionneurs.

Ce que je déteste personnellement est de ne pas savoir à l'avance le prix que je vais payer pour un produit. Si tout est bien expliqué, comme n'importe qui je suis capable de me servir de mon intelligence, et je vais être en accord pour payer plus.

IStripper bien qu'étant un moyen de distraction, ne devrait pas être un instrument de gamers.

Le problème aussi est que nous sommes toujours mis devant un fait accompli. Comme ici pour les changements dans le iStripper mobile.

Il faut dire aussi que s'il y a eu une amélioration au niveau technologique pour la qualité des cartes (modernité oblige), le choix des filles a de beaucoup diminué. Les retours d'une même fille sont maintenant devenu la "norme".

Right. So I guess six cards are listed wrong but I cannot confirm. Late May 2019 by what I gather from members and the client and the rare times I went to the website. 😕

For Stella Flex the APP shows them correctly as all CC, especially the 3 cards apparently mismarked on the web site. Now I am wondering if there were other errors right at the time CC+ came out. For Lesya since I HAVE the CC+ card I can confirm that that one card is really 4K.

I *think* this issue is only for a few cards but I don't have a lot of the cards that were released April-May 2019. One I DO have is correct, the first card she did was CC and then the rest CC+, and I have that first CC+ card.

Because you can no longer see the web site quality designation once you own it, it is hard to check though.

(You quoted the wrong part but ok, your right there.)

Anyway, the problem remains. 1284 or 1290?

Ahh, maybe but I cannot confirm cards I do not own. 😄

But no, others have not explained filtering girls and not cards on this thread

Oh yes they have, for example

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/51901/1?post=751585

which ends with

The search is finding MODELS where there are CC+ cards, and then displaying all the cards from that model. But the search isn't operating on a card level.

Well, that's interesting. I search under "models" for CC+ and it shows the three cards that Stella Flex has that were marked CC+. Now HERE it IS showing cards. Except for Stella the cards are not MARKED correctly. Because the one of those that I just downloaded is NOT 4K. So I take it back. Apparently at the transition period cards could be mismarked. I think it was MEANT to be 4K, the listed file size would be correct for that. You don't actually get that file size though. Maybe it's bugged?? On the website you can only see the CC+ marking when you don't own it, btw, although you can still see the file size.

You had me at

sub-optimal

😆 👍 😎

But no, others have not explained filtering girls and not cards on this thread.

Right. Website shows five for Paulina Soul but is actually three in 4K as far as I know.

As others have explained earlier in this thread the web site filters find any girls, not cards, that match the filter settings. This is different to the app which filters individual cards. I think that this is sub-optimal from the customers point of view but not difficult to understand or use. On the web site the rule is find a girl and then show us every card she has made (if you like you can think of the "other cards" as comprising similar to a "you may also like" list such as you see on Amazon)

If you set the web site store's quality filter to "crystal clear+" you see that Paulina Soul has made at least one card with this quality. You can then look at her details - including the list of all the cards see has made - and at the details of any of her cards but when you do this the filtering is no longer being applied.

"If you purchase the 1 Year Subscription, it is $7.99 a month / $95.99 for the year."

xbox game pass is 60 bucks a year amazon prime is 7 bucks a month no need for such a long commitmentNetflix is at low as 7 bucks a monthDisney+ is 120 bucks a year
This is not the value totem think it is. What made it good value was paying the one time price for access too the card and keeping it forever.

"that is just a little more than the cost of purchasing 3 shows at regular price."

Except our commitment too Totem over many many years has rewarded us with substantial discounts and many of us are no longer paying "regular price".


@comtedracula Dollz NFT will fail like all trash NFT projects do, the NFT market is in a terrible place right now, anything o the Ethereum block chain has ***** substantial losses. But it comes as no surprise Totem trying too enter this market too, afterall we got all the greedy monetarization here: from loot boxes to fomo limited edition sales.

I don't want to be too much of an apologist for practices that make the product more expensive but I would just implore customers to set their expectations in a fair place. The product has seen many improvements and adjustments that have made it many times better than what we were getting in 2014 and before...the price hasn't change appreciably for loyal buyers over the last 8-10 years despite everything else becoming much more expensive and totem has been smart to hide the cost increases rather than increasing the base product. Lootboxes, auctions, special event, premium, mobile, and dolz are methods to increase revenue and none of then change the reality of long time customers at all. The cards are still professionally made and the talent is the best available, especially in a market that has change dramatically with fewer professionals and more girls likely to cam or use onlyfans from home. Totem has been creative with the product, increased costumes, and recruting territories to south america and spain while maintaining their standard flow of ukrainian girls. Go back and watch some cards from 2012, cards that cost more than in 2022 and tell me totem is doing anything wrong...they are just being creative with revenue...ignore it or don't.

I made a small mistake, Stella Flex has 9 cards, all in 3K at the maximum resolution. I don't know why I only saw 6 of them. Sorry.

J'ai fait une petite erreur, Stella Flex a 9 cartes, toutes en 3K à la résolution maximale. Je ne sais pas pourquoi je n'en ai vu que 6. Désolé.

Of course. I cannot say for sure because I have no 4k cards. I only know what they tell me sort of deal. 😳 😆 😎

Right. Website shows five for Paulina Soul but is actually three in 4K as far as I know.

Stella Flex claims three 4K shows on the website but is zero I think.

I am basing this on the cards that are in my collection. I checked one by one the maximum resolutions of the 2 girls' cards.

Je me base sur les cartes qui sont dans ma collection. J'ai vérifié une à une les résolutions maximales des cartes des 2 filles.

Guess I needed to cut costs from my budget, Totem has unwittingly made the choice easy for me

Right. Website shows five for Paulina Soul but is actually three in 4K as far as I know.

Stella Flex claims three 4K shows on the website but is zero I think.

I am also getting 1284 4K shows via the client though I have no 4K shows downloaded myself as I never had premium.

Some of Stella Flex and Paulina Soul may be incorrectly shown as 4K on the website I dunno for sure. 😕

Paulina Soul has 3 out of 6 cards in 4K and Stella Flex has none (All 6 are in 3K) .

Paulina Soul a 3 cartes sur 6 en 4K et Stella Flex n'en a aucune (Toutes les 6 sont en 3K) .

Conversely, what card am I not seeing?

I am also getting 1284 4K shows via the client though I have no 4K shows downloaded myself as I never had premium.

Some of Stella Flex and Paulina Soul may be incorrectly shown as 4K on the website I dunno for sure. 😕

Le están haciendo como el Le están haciendo como tipo Streaming; lo que antes teníamos derecho de disfrutar por el pago de un derecho, ahora no lo arrebatan para volverlo adquirir con otros términos, condiciones y costo adicional. La pregunta es: ¿cómo puedo seguir disfrutando lo que antes no tenía ningún problema y ahora si lo tengo? No está claro y se torna injusto.Streaming, lo que antes podiamos disfrutar por la adquicisión

By dint of scaring away its customers, Totem will make its whales an endangered species.

À ***** de faire fuir ses clients, Totem va faire des ses baleines une espèce en voie d'extinction.

Ya no tengo acceso al material que antes si tenía aceso; por qué y como se puede resolver eso?

"In addition, we will be offering free subscription days:
depending on the number of mobile cards you own
for those with VIP status on desktop"

And what happens after those days? Its defiantly not a recurring free subscription, after which we lose access to all our previously paid for mobile content.

"I do not think the new economic model is targeted at, if you will excuse the expression, the whales"

I ***** the term, but its a slap in the goddam face too me personally, as someone who invested so much over the last couple years in ONLY MOBILE shows.

I am hazarding a guess - and it is a guess, it is not based on any inside information as I too only heard of this today.

I do not think the new economic model is targeted at, if you will excuse the expression, the whales - because the whales have large collections in the high hundreds or thousands and probably tend to watch shows on PC or similar.

The model is aimed to attract new mobile-only customers who may want to dip in for a few weeks every now and then and see lots of shows.

For the whales who may want to view on mobile, then this is where, to quote from Celine's post,

In addition, we will be offering free subscription days:
depending on the number of mobile cards you own
for those with VIP status on desktop

Moreover, you can now convert your credits into additional subscription days:
You can get up to 60 days of free unlimited access to iStripper mobile.

So this sounds like you will get a certain number of days access to mobile based on your status.

Now I am simply interpreting what I have read in the post and also having a reasonable understanding of commerce. I may be wrong - we will have to wait for the Team to give more info.

"If you purchase the 1 Year Subscription, it is $7.99 a month / $95.99 for the year."

• xbox game pass is 60 bucks a year
• amazon prime is 7 bucks a month no need for such a long commitment
• Netflix is at low as 7 bucks a month
• Disney+ is 120 bucks a year

This is not the value totem think it is. What made it good value was paying the one time price for access too the card and keeping it forever.

"that is just a little more than the cost of purchasing 3 shows at regular price."

Except our commitment too Totem over many many years has rewarded us with substantial discounts and many of us are no longer paying "regular price".


@comtedracula Dollz NFT will fail like all trash NFT projects do, the NFT market is in a terrible place right now, anything o the Ethereum block chain has ***** substantial losses. But it comes as no surprise Totem trying too enter this market too, afterall we got all the greedy monetarization here: from loot boxes to fomo limited edition sales.

I actually used the mobile app quite often. And there were also shows that I bought mainly because they were available in the mobile version.
But this...yeah I think I'll pass from now on. It's a shame, but almost 100€ just so I can use it again for a year...no way.

In my collection I have 1267 Crystal Clear + cards which includes 27 SEC as of November 14, 2022.

There are 17 SEC cards that I do not have in Crystal Clear +.

This makes 1284 cards currently in Crystal Clear +.


Dans ma collection j'ai 1267 cartes Crystal Clear + qui inclus 27 SEC en date du 14 novembre 2022.

Il y a 17 cartes SEC que je n'ai pas en Crystal Clear +

Cela fait 1284 cartes actuellement en Crystal Clear +

My question is will Totem be paid in real money with the purchase of crypto-currency from customers in exchange for the Dolz or will Totem be paid in crypto-currency?

Ma question est Totem va t-il être payé en argent réel avec l'achat de crypto-monnaie des clients en échange des Dolz ou Totem sera t-il payé en crypto-monnaie ?

In the application:

• I am finding in the store (without a search; nothing in the search bar) 292 cards that are crystal clear + and no other filters.
• I am finding in my collection (without a search; nothing in the search bar) 991 cards that are crystal clear + and no other filters, and with no hidden cards.
• This is a total of 1283 cards

I wonder what the extra card that @Number6 has. (maybe one counted twice?)

I think the trades have to be done with trackable crypto curency for the nft thing to work.
That may be how Totem have set it up - but it is not how others have used NFTs to establish ownership of a digital item (e.g. the first tweet). Both the NFT protected item and the crypto currency can be based on a block chain, but they do not have to be the same block chain nor is it neccessary that a cryto currency be invovled at all for the purchase of an NFT based item. Totem appear to have decided to do so and to have linked the two, this is reasonable but I do not know why they have made that decision.

Ahh, right i see.

I don't get the point of the babyDolz other than "watch to earn", seems to be adding yet another "coin" in to the purchase chain.

buy eth with real money,
buy dolz with eth,
stake dolz to earn babydolz,
buy nft's with babydolz or with dolz?

While dolz and eth appear to be intercangeable (unless you cant turn dolz into eth) it looks like you can't turn babydolz into dolz so you can never cash out. So you would hope that you can sell the nft for dolz rather than babydolz.

The more i think about this scheme the less i trust it. I'm at the point of where i wouldn't touch them with someone elses shitty stick. Hopefully some of assumptions are wrong.

Would it have anything to do with this advantage of cryptocurrencies?

https://bitcoinmatin.fr/2020/09/25/crypto-monnaie-avantages-et-inconvenients/

Privacy

Privacy is one of the main advantages of crypto-currencies. To use the system, you don't need to provide any personal data, which allows you to remain anonymous and hide your costs. The government, financial institutions or marketing companies cannot know about your transactions.

This may have changed since the date of this article I do not know?


Est-ce que cela aurait un lien avec cet avantage des cryptomonnaies ?

https://bitcoinmatin.fr/2020/09/25/crypto-monnaie-avantages-et-inconvenients/

Confidentialité

La confidentialité est l’un des principaux avantages des crypto-monnaies. Pour utiliser le système, vous n’avez pas besoin de fournir de données personnelles, ce qui vous permet de conserver l’anonymat et de masquer vos coûts. Le gouvernement, les institutions financières ou les sociétés de marketing ne peuvent pas connaître vos opérations.

Cela a peut-être changé depuis la date de cet article je ne le sais pas ?

To me, this means i will no longer use the mobile app and ALSO have concerns about buying shows for my desktop. If Totem can change the rules for one...they might change the rules for another.

Honestly, I seldom used the mobile app anyway...but I do have grave concerns about the entire Totem ecosystem.

Same here. They've lost my trust with this cash grab. I'm not spending another cent on this site. How can I be sure that in the future I'll be able to watch what I've already purchased without paying for access to the PC software? When my credits are gone, that's it. I don't pay twice for things. If they rescind this greedy idea, maybe I'll reconsider.

I think the trades have to be done with trackable crypto curency for the nft thing to work.

That may be how Totem have set it up - but it is not how others have used NFTs to establish ownership of a digital item (e.g. the first tweet). Both the NFT protected item and the crypto currency can be based on a block chain, but they do not have to be the same block chain nor is it neccessary that a cryto currency be invovled at all for the purchase of an NFT based item. Totem appear to have decided to do so and to have linked the two, this is reasonable but I do not know why they have made that decision.

So the same people who had the groundbreaking idea to introduce the NFT scam into iStripper just thought now they can take away our paid mobile shows? Do you share your marketing department with The LEGO Group?

You are aware that it was possible to buy shows in the mobile app without accessing the Windows/MAC application? I am not sure if you can legally restrict our access like that... We'll see.

Pour l'instant, en tout cas, la mise à jour de la version de bureau reste gratuite 😊 Pour le reste, qui sait de quoi demain sera fait? 😐

Si la tendance actuelle tend à se poursuivre, je n'ai pas hâte à demain.

Vivons le jour le jour.

For now, at least, the desktop version update remains free 😊 For the rest, who knows what tomorrow will be made of? 😐

If the current trend tends to continue, I'm not looking forward to tomorrow.

Let's just live day by day.

À suivre...

Pour l'instant, en tout cas, la mise à jour de la version de bureau reste gratuite 😊 Pour le reste, qui sait de quoi demain sera fait? 😐