Do I complain too much?

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wtccs
Joined in Dec 2019

85 post(s)
January 9
Let models excel in their field. Because, I hope that it is the girls who will define the type of shows they want to offer and that we will not ***** them to do things for which they do not feel capable, which could only result in a mediocre result.

@Philours Oui, bien sur! I agree 100%. If a girl would prefer doing XXX, I am willing to watch!
Bitwrangler
Joined in Apr 2021

159 post(s)
January 9
A lack of XXX content is not going to be an issue here. I notice that Eva Generosi has five XXX cards and no normal ones, that can't be a good sign for the future.
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1559 post(s)
January 9
I notice that Eva Generosi has five XXX cards and no normal ones, that can't be a good sign for the future.

En tout cas cela lui a été bénéfique puisqu'elle est nommée Talent du mois de Janvier. Ses spectacles ont donc certainement étés bien accueillis par un grand nombre. Ce qui lui permet également de revenir pour une deuxième fois, et j'en suis ravi.
Mais qui sait? Peut-être un ou plusieurs show non X cette fois pour les allergiques aux shows plus explicites? 😉

In any case it was beneficial to her since she was named Talent of the month for January. His shows have certainly been well received by a large number of people. Which also allows him to come back for a second time, and I'm delighted.
But who knows? Maybe one or more non-X shows this time for those allergic to more explicit shows?😉
dar2112v
Joined in Dec 2007

441 post(s)
January 10
she was named Talent of the month for January. His shows have certainly been well received by a large number of people. Which also allows him to come back for a second time, and I'm delighted.

Translator malfunction :) Eva is not him / his .. She is all 'her'.
jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

92 post(s)
January 10
There's been some great points on both sides of the argument and a couple of good ideas as well.
I really think that just adding a few minutes to the average shows runtime would make everything better.

Let's say an even 40 minute show.Twelve minutes standing and twelve minutes for pole clips. More or less of one or the other depending on the girls comfort or talents (a good point from @Philours) but 24 minutes average devoted either way. Just like a regular Istripper show give or take and double the average xxx show.

Costumes, props, chairs, furniture type shows, glass cleaning, swing clips, maybe even the cage ( wasn't a fan but I've read that some people miss it) could all factor in this timeframe for added variety.

That leaves sixteen minutes for sequential table stripping clips followed by xxx or whatever. Not really a loss for xxx fans and there is leeway to add more for machine gimmicks or whatever else floats your boat.

@Bitwrangler is right xxx isn't going anywhere and I think I've realized throughout all of my "*****" this was going to be a losing battle. In fact ironically my proposal here may have made it so that every card from now on would be a xxx card if this were to happen. Oh well I am asking for a compromise after all.

I don't think that a average 40 minute show would be too taxing in the long run to make this happen. It keeps the formula basically as it is except that nothing has to be cut out or half assed and everyone gets plenty out of every show and every beautiful woman whether a xxx fan or not.

This will all of course be up to the team whether this is feasible or not but I hope that it could happen in some form or other.



jclown781
Joined in Feb 2008

92 post(s)
January 10
@SupErot yikes that is pretty in depth research nice job.
HansSachs
Joined in Mar 2016

949 post(s)
January 10 (edited)
I am a XXX fan, but i think that more "regular" shows should be released.

In a set of 6 cards pro model, at least 2 ones should be regular (I know that some models will anyway do only regular shows and some only XXX ones, but these are exceptions).

XXX shows - even if I like them - do lack teasing table clips, which are my favorite type of clips and are to be found only on regular cards.
Hissatsu
Joined in May 2022

6 post(s)
January 10
Personally, as long as the the XXX portion of the show doesn't become too long, I'm okay with it. It could be done better, though, IMO. My bigger problem with it is that they're just made to use a dildo with no support. As a result, the actresses have to use it in uncomfortable positions that are also bad for the stationary camera. It's really just the actresses fumbling with it on the floor somewhat awkwardly. It feels like it needs something they can securely strap it to and remove that will allow them to get better postures while staying safe. Possibly at 2 different heights that they can 'dance' on while not blocking anything from the camera.

All that aside--it's like some other person said on the forum somewhere, it's called iStripper, not iDildo. I would hope there wouldn't be a massive amount of time spent on it in its current form. I would much prefer they set up multiple show deals with the actresses and maybe help guide them a bit with professional dancers before they make the show. Just an extra bit of prep in hopes of a better product.
64buick2
Joined in Jul 2008

101 post(s)
January 11
Has iStripper compiled a list of the best sellers of 2023 yet? I've yet to see one for the past year. A lot of data pertinent to this discussion could be found there.
Manue
TEAM
CUSTOMER SERVICE
Joined in Nov 2014

1030 post(s)
January 11
Hi guys, Thank you for your feedback. I have forwarded this thread to the Team
wrightsayswow
Joined in Jul 2020

1077 post(s)
January 11
Yeah more dancing and teasing would indeed be pleasing 👍😍
MrSalmon
Joined in Oct 2007

4 post(s)
January 13
Hey all! I'm another OG customer here, been around since Virtuagirl 1! I pretty much agree with the OP(JClown) and with the majority of others who've posted on this thread. I like XXX too but always have preferred the striptease element of this product. So no surprise to hear that I'd love us to go back to having more of a balance of XXX and regular cards again. We had this for a while last year and it was awesome, but When the vast majority of cards went back to being 80% XXX again I found myself buying a lot less cards. A 50/50 split would obviously be ideal but 60/40(XXX/Reg) would even be enough for me :)

If this can't be compromised on and XXX cards have to be the new norm(I get it, XXX cards have probably performed better in sales and all that), then they should a nice balance of dancing/teasing/stripping to lead up to the XXX content. Emiri Momota's cards were a great example of this and remain some of my favourite cards of the last year! I think her cards had something for everyone and it would be great if this was the format that the majority of XXX cards had.

Those are my thoughts! Thanks to the totem team for such a quality product overall though. It's why I'm still around :)
MrHouse14
Joined in Mar 2016

17 post(s)
January 13
I agree with you MrSalmon, as much as I like XXX cards, I do prefer to have some solid striptease content beforehand
willyweekly
Joined in Jul 2015

346 post(s)
January 14
It seems the answer is:
no, you don't ***** too much.

Your comments are great. your voice is understood and not just a complainer. you have ideas.
Ilookgirls
Joined in Apr 2016

9 post(s)
January 14
@jclown781
You don't ***** too much.
In my opinion, yes, I think that some minutes more of dancing and soft stripping of the outfits before XXX action will help us to be delighted of the preliminaries and wait impatiently for the girls to be hottest.
😈
Vortim
Joined in Apr 2019

220 post(s)
January 15
I have to agree... I miss the stripping aspect in most of the cards today. While XXX is nice, its not why I am here... I can go to any million other sites for XXX.... the stripping, teasing, and dancing is what makes Istripper.... well iSTRIPPER. while i dont mind XXX, i am ten times more likely to buy a stripper card over a XXX card... but that is just me.....
anigmarvo
Joined in Mar 2008

39 post(s)
January 15
I agree too. For general XXX content there are plenty of sources. iStripper had something different and unique. I understand trying to attract different audiences, but I'd rather buy non-XXX shows. In recent years only Belka and a few others provide me with the real type of content I like: beauty, sexiness, good dancing, body and facial expressivity. I hope we can find a balance for everyone.
Bitwrangler
Joined in Apr 2021

159 post(s)
January 15
i am ten times more likely to buy a stripper card over a XXX card... but that is just me.....

It is definitely not just you. 😀
Djoal
Joined in Sep 2018

44 post(s)
January 15
i agree too with the first post (and others), and also i prefer a cards with stripping from full clothes than cards from underwear or bikini without full clothes if you know what i mean. 😎
Turkose82
Joined in Sep 2008

5 post(s)
January 24
I have been a customer for a long time, nowadays I rarely spend money. I like it when a woman teases and strips, as the sofware name suggests. I've been skipping XXX cards directly for a long time because I've always been disappointed with them. I understand that many people want to see a woman masturbating, I enjoy it myself too, but it takes too much time from the show.
Caleb001
Joined in Dec 2009

8 post(s)
January 25
Completely agree and would prefer them have more non XXX shows, that includes VR. If I want to see women getting themselves off there are an enormous amount of contecnt you can access online.

Theres a reason why Tina - Peekaboo Skirt is my fav show. I can find other women more attractive but Tina dancing and teasing can be so much better. Tina removing underwear/carefully showing shes not wearing any. Including when she doesn't even show you anything besides letting you know shes got nothing under the skirt is better than watching the women use a big black dildo. The teasing is key, for me, and I wish the VR had Stripper shows not 60 seconds in and them masturbating, aggain plenty of other places for XXX VR
Wuzthis
Joined in Oct 2012

91 post(s)
January 25
I don't agree. They are XXX cards and as such there should be always more XXX content in the card then other content. Totem does that what sells best, not what some of us would like to see more.Also the whole comment and rating system of the cards is most useless and should be canceled and replaced by something else.

They're XXX cards because they have XXX content on them. It's as though you're suggesting they should not be classified as such if the ratio of XXX to Non-XXX is below a certain threshold.

Yes, Totem makes what sells most. That's kind of unfortunate but anyway...
Wuzthis
Joined in Oct 2012

91 post(s)
January 25
I just thought I'd throw this out there and see what everyone thinks. I have been a subscriber for over 15 years. I own every card just about (I think) and I love the neverending stream of stunning women and the overall content. Over the last couple years I have become a little frustrated with the content shift to xxx and I have been expressing it by commenting on the individual shows. Just a FYI I DO enjoy xxx and taskbar content (some of it anyway) I just believe that the focus is shifting too much in that direction and other content such as dancing and standing/pole stripping and teasing is shortened or cut out entirely. Recently I've been getting called out as being a "complainer." This in and out of itself doesn't bother me but it does raise the question. Do I ***** too much in everyone's opinion? Just to be clear I have NOT NOR WOULD I EVER call for certain content to be taken out entirely just because I don't like it. We're all different and I appreciate that there's something for everyone's tastes and fancies.That's why I am still here after all these years..However am I the only one that thinks that every xxx show has the same repetitive content that occupies way too much time out of shows that are only on average a half hour to begin with? Is there any compromise or ways to improve this formula to maybe balance it a bit or add more variety so to speak? Are there others besides me that would like the "Stripper" part of Istripper to be more utilized again? Or is this just what everyone wants another porn site that just happens to function as a screensaver? Let me know please I admit to getting a tad frustrated writing the same criticisms day in and day out for all these shows especially if nothing will ever come of it. If it's truly a waste of everyone's time I will stop.

TDR (Too Dense; Didn't read) - Thank you Wyld for posting a formatted and readable version.

I haven't been reading the forums much and wouldn't know if there's been too much *****. That being said, you do sound like a complainer but I don't think I can disagree with your points. Your main points are all very valid, at least in my opinion anyway.
Wuzthis
Joined in Oct 2012

91 post(s)
January 25
I decided to crunch some numbers in order to have some data to go off of. I used table clips rather than explicit clips. Partially because that was part of the original post (table clips don't provide the same type of entertainment compared to standing & pole). Additionally, many cards have non-explicit table clips that are effectively explicit (dildo bj, masturbation without penetration, etc).I analyzed every show from last month, December 2023: There were 32 cards in total, including the Christmas SEC. The total runtime was 18 hours, 57 minutes. Average of 35m32s. There were 24 explicit and 8 non-explicit cards. Explicit cards averaged slightly longer at 36m compared to 34m for non-explicit. Of all cards, 54% of the time (10 hours, 10 minutes) were table clips. This is an average of 19m per cardBreaking it down further: From the non-explicit cards, 36% of the time (avg 12m12s) was from table clips. These ranged from a low of 27% (e1926) to a high of 44% (e1940). From the explicit cards, 59% of the time (avg 21m17s) was from table clips. These ranged from a low of 41% (f1426)** to a high of 100% (f1454). Excluding the table only card, there were 2 next highest at 71% each (f1397 & f1462). Only 4 XXX cards have less than 50% table. All are over 40% table (or explicit when accounting for the note below) The average explicit card has less than 15m of standing/pole clips.** The actual lowest was 35% from f1428, BUT the last clip is a standing explicit clip with a machine. Including this brings it up to 49%. I used the 35% in the cumulative calculations above though.

Thanks :)
celine
TEAM
Joined in Sep 2007

1659 post(s)
February 26
Hello all,

I've refrained myself from intervening till now cause I wanted to read the most of you possible :)

To conclude, what I hear is : more non-xxx shows OR more teasing / dancing / stripping in xxx shows (especially table teasing)

This has been shared with all the iStripper crew.

Thank you for your feedback

goodwolf
Joined in May 2011

237 post(s)
February 26
Hi @Celine,

yes pls.
Plus for teasing / stripping she must have something to strip off, when she unwraps herself as a present/ation for us.
Swimming dress and sort of is good sometimes, but there was a time when it came too frequently.
thanks
Jack0motto
Joined in Jun 2019

50 post(s)
February 26
@Celine , Thanks for listening and passing it on, I have been looking for the cards with most non-xxx clips in them.
Also before I buy a card from a girl I like, I have to go to the iStripper Workshop website and check how many clips and level of erotism it offers.

Sometimes there are less than 8 clips, with most of them being totally nude or XXX, and the fact that the outfit barely appears sometimes, it's a bummer.
And some other times there are over 20 clips with allc atoegroiues, (non nude, Topless, Nuidityu, Full nudity and even one or two XXX clips)

I hope in the furure we get more teasing, playfulness with outfits, even special skills/tricks likie hoola hoops, excerise videos, twerking, etc..
One of my favorite cards is 0584 by Jia Lissa where in a clip she plays and sings on the ukulele, it was a total surprise, and I was hoping for many more musical cards after that one..
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@Celine , Merci de l'avoir écouté et transmis, j'ai recherché les cartes contenant la plupart des clips non xxx.
De plus, avant d'acheter une carte à une fille que j'aime, je dois aller sur le site iStripper Workshop et vérifier le nombre de clips et le niveau d'érotisme qu'elle propose.

Parfois il y a moins de 8 clips, la plupart étant totalement nus ou XXX, et le fait que la tenue apparaisse à peine parfois, c'est décevant.
Et parfois, il y a plus de 20 clips avec toutes les atoegroiues (non nue, Topless, Nuidityu, Full nudity et même un ou deux clips XXX)

J'espère qu'à terme, nous obtiendrons plus de taquineries, de jeux avec les tenues, même des compétences/astuces spéciales comme les hoola hoops, les vidéos d'exercices, le twerk, etc.
Une de mes cartes préférées est 0584 de Jia Lissa où dans un clip elle joue et chante du ukulélé, c'était une surprise totale, et j'espérais beaucoup plus de cartes musicales après celle-là.
Ullubu
Joined in Dec 2011

729 post(s)
February 26
Hello all,

I've refrained myself from intervening till now cause I wanted to read the most of you possible :)

To conclude, what I hear is : more non-xxx shows OR more teasing / dancing / stripping in xxx shows (especially table teasing)

This has been shared with all the iStripper crew.

Thank you for your feedback

@Celine, more XXX please.
Philours
Joined in Feb 2019

1559 post(s)
February 26
@Celine, more XXX please.

👍

Et plus de cartes Anal, Machine a baiser et squirt svp.🔥

And more Anal, Fucking Machine and Squirt cards please.🔥
HansSachs
Joined in Mar 2016

949 post(s)
February 27 (edited)
Don't reduce XXX action on XXX cards, please. Just release some more regular cards.

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