I agree - the director's notes are probably the best place for such information.

@Pickle1

So with that amount of variation, how am I supposed to make an informed choice and know what to expect?
This is why I and several others have asked for at leat a summary of the clip list be made available prior to purchase. It would be better if the time spent in each clip at its highest level was available as well so that we could distinguish between clips that reach "full nudity" or "XXX" for only a second or so from those that maintain the level for longer but that information is not available anywhere in the system so it can't be shown..

I agree with everything that @pumpdude48 has said in his previous three posts.

Of course, in retrospect, a better system could have been used from the start but changing things now is pointless.

I don't think it needs to be an organizational debacle like changing or adding tags for thousands of cards. I just think..from now on...totem needs to clarify either on the card ui, through the director notes, or a new tag that the card are nude art. They have subtely told us this but the lack of clarity is troubling and the reviews for the cards of the nude art girls are very low considering how beautiful the girls are...Anastasha is barely sitting at a 4.09...which means a bunch of people bought the card and were not pleased.

@Pickle1

So with that amount of variation, how am I supposed to make an informed choice and know what to expect?

This is why I and several others have asked for at leat a summary of the clip list be made available prior to purchase. It would be better if the time spent in each clip at its highest level was available as well so that we could distinguish between clips that reach "full nudity" or "XXX" for only a second or so from those that maintain the level for longer but that information is not available anywhere in the system so it can't be shown..

I agree with everything that @pumpdude48 has said in his previous three posts.

Of course, in retrospect, a better system could have been used from the start but changing things now is pointless.

Of course positive comments are welcomed as well but those tend to be somewhat scarce around here so are not really expected.

I enjoy being able to contribute to the quality of the product and hope that the efforts of those of us in QA help Totem stay successful long into the future!!

Continued

And later when QA doesn't find the rated explicit activity and reports same back to post production, it needs to get reviewed by those that can actually make changes in a timely manner. This is because "QA" is some of our members who volunteer their time to check the various new cards and don't have the capability to actually make any changes, which must be done by Totem's in-house post production team.

However, sometimes things slip through the cracks and a polite mention of the issue in 'please fix these cards' will get it put on the list to recheck and change if warranted. (And no I don't want to debate how long it may or may not take for the team to act on those reports as that is a separate issue from this.)

HEY!!!

STOP NODDING OFF!!!

The best is yet to come!

With all this said, I really don't think that the rating system needs tweeking and all the work that would entail. The rating system is in place and it works as advertized for the most part as long as it is judiciously applied with some common sense, which also mostly, it is.

Our responsibility as members is to know what the different levels really mean and to only report/***** when they don't match up.

That being said I do agree that there have been some 'liberal' interpretations of what is and what is not L3/L4/L5 behavior recently and I understand folk's ire over buying an L4 rated card (or whatever) only to see a couple split second glimpses of the rated level with no other action happening to meet the criteria in the rest of the card. As mentioned above, report it appropriately and know that you have participated in the QA process in a positive manner for all concerned. With all the warm and fuzzy feelings that come with it.... 😉

If you bought a card that doesn't measure up and you feel strongly enough about it, just log a customer service ticket POLITELY explaining your position. The team wants you to be happy with their product and if you have a case they will certainly take action to make it right.

And lastly I also agree that we have had a real glut of barely nude willing models recently which I personally find somewhat disappointing. 😒

I'm done now, you can go back to sleep after sending your rightous flames my way...🔥

Thanks for listening!! 😊

⛔⛔

PD48

P.S. yes, if you haven't guessed it yet, I have been one of the few proud members of the QA team for more than a year now so please feel free to heap all your negative energies and angst on me where this issue is concerned. Not that I have the power to do anything about them but if it makes you all feel good then feel free!! 😎😈

I don't think the category system should be modified. It works as is and modifying it now would entail a rather intensive overhaul of both the app and the many of the member created extras (play list generators and scenes for example). There are over 4500 cards with an average of 13 or so clips per card that would need re-review which is a gargantuan undertaking and likely wouldn't even be considered by Totem.

In my opinion we would be much better served with Totem's attention on fixing the various bugs in the app, bringing us new features and getting us a more diversified group of girls to strip for us.

Grab a beverage of your choice and I will explain my postion:

First, the criteria for the different levels:

These rules have been posted elsewhere but I don't have the gumption to dig them up and link them here. And I have paraphrased them slightly to make them more coherent in this format. I have the actual list because I am interested in this issue, but they are in excel format and I don't know how to post that sort of thing here if it is even possible.

L1 = essentially fully clothed to the point she can walk the streets (well... maybe only the beach in some places) and not get arrested. Partial view of breasts including aureola is allowed but without nipples showing.

L2 = "Topless" which is where visible nipples (either bare or under sheer top) come in but also include other things such as hazy view of vulva through sheer panties, hands momentarily under panties but no suggestive rubbing, ***** to moderate suggestive/erotic rubbing over panties or seeing partial vulva/labia with panties still on but no 'pink' or anus visible. For duos girls kissing with clothes on is also included.

L3 = "Nudity" which is panties off/full nudity but no explicit behavior, no pink or anus shown and no suggestive rubbing of vulva. For duos two girls kissing with nudity and no explicit behavior.

L4 = "Full Nudity" which starts getting into sexually explicit behavior by showing anus or open labia (showing inner 'pink') rubbing of vulva in an explicit manner but not achieving orgasm (real or imagined) but also includes 'erotic rubbing UNDER clothes', sucking a dildo or putting it under her panties and for duos: full nudity with some ***** caressing of the other girl's breasts or vulva area.

L5 = "Explicit Behavior or XXX" which is insertion of anything into the vagina/anus or masturbation to apparent orgasm of any kind. for duo's any oral to genital/anal genital/genital rubbing or contact (to exclude kissing on mouth or breasts which is L4)

Notice that nowhere in that list is there the term 'open legs'. A girl simply opening her legs so we can see her labia does not constitute L4 behavior (unless her labia opens and we can see 'pink') and is rated as L3 if the rules are strictly followed. Closed labia viewed from the rear is still L3 unless we can see anus as well and then it is L4.

HEY!!!!

WAKE UP!!!

I'M NOT FINISHED YET

Also you need to keep in mind that these ratings are applied by humans judging what other humans are doing. Every clip has to be viewed separately and often more than once to make sure all the criteria is met or not. It is entirely possible to miss a split second view of anus or pink and do we really want the clip rated higher for a split second glimpse anyway? I would prefer to have those very short and probably unintentional glimpses ignored in favor of the majority content of each clip where the erotic level ratings are concerned.

And to carry that a step further, do we really want a whole card rated L4 when there is only one or two clips that may have some very small amount of L4 action and the rest of the card doesn't? I think not, imo. Doing this will help ensure that the buyers expectations are met without significantly overdelivering. I'd call the little bit of extra a bonus and those that don't want to see it can toggle the filter to nudity and below in settings. I just checked and L5 cards will play with the nudity and below filter set. You just don't get the L4/5 clips.

I don't know this for sure but I kind of infer that the erotic levels are assigned during the actual shooting of the clips and that sometimes the girls do a little less or more than what the clip was originally supposed to be but the clip still goes to post production that way. The catch then becomes, that the folks in post production and QA have to diligently review each clip to make sure that the level of erotic content meets the standard of the level it was assigned. And this is only one of the very many things that each clip is reviewed for.

And later when QA doesn't find the rated explicit activity and reports same back to post production, it needs to get reviewed by those that can actually make changes in a timely manner. This is because "QA" is some of our members who volunteer their time to check the various new cards and don'...

Clip tags are inaccurate...if the girl is a nude art model, it needs to be explicitly stated or they need to stop casting them. For girl in between like Jessika who is just shy and uncomfortably the cards should just be taggd as nudity...even if she slips a little full nudity in...we have girls inserting fingers that are tagged as full nudity on the clip, and then girls who spending 1 second revealing get the same rating.

I am in basic agreement with @orclover - not about stopping casting girls who don't display (as I enjoy seeing a beautiful girl strip and become naked without necessarily needing to "look inside her") but about consistency, or the lack of it in how the cards and clips are classified. Take three cards as examples

1) Anastasia in "Naughty In My Boudoir". Card was classified as only "Nudity" and in clip 17 you did actually get a clear view of genitalia for around 5 seconds
2) Tanya in "Artistic Tease". Card was classified as "Full Nudity" and in one clip only you saw a rear view of her genitalia for around 2 seconds - less than Anastasia provided in a "Nudity only"
3) Elis in "On or Off". Classified also as "Full Nudity" but in this you had multiple clips where Elis provided considerable views of her genitalia and even managed a light fleeting rub.

So with that amount of variation, how am I supposed to make an informed choice and know what to expect?

@HansSachs

I just did an analysis of the f series cards in my collection. I only have 486 of the 600+ f series cards. From those, here are the number of cards by the percentage of XXX clips. 86 of my 486 cards are 50% or more XXX. I can't tell exactly how many have sound, but most of them probably do.

Percent XXX Number of Cards
10 43
20 159
30 81
40 67
50 38
60 25
70 14
80 7
100 2

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I'll try again to explain what I am proposing.

There is no practical way to change the clip level tags

Which - as I already pointed earlier - was not asked for.

you would have to classify the cards using a seperate system to that for the clips

Such a thing is already in use: we already have "plain" and "xxx" cards. I just would like to change criterion.

I proposed 4 labels, instead of 2 in use, to classify both new and old cards, not clips (which would, of course, stay with the same tag they have now). New classification, would be, indeed, based on existing (and staying on) clip tags - so it could work both with old and new cards.

My request, as pointed, was such a scheme:

• Cards which contain clips up to level 4 would be labeled as: Nude art card
• Cards up to level 5, without sound: Full nudity card
• Cards up to level 5, with sound: Explicit card (as they look, btw, to already have been labeled in new beta)
• Cards up to level 5, with sound AND containing more of 50% clips of level 5: XXX card (or whatever name would look appropriate)

Each label could have a symbol, in order to get an easy identification in Store.

I know practically nothing about computer programming, but I know for sure that a procedures as assignment of such new labels (with precise rules I just proposed) to all cards - new and old, past and future - basing on existing clip classification, could be quite easy, and, also, totally automatized.

The problem with all of these suggestions is that they increase the work that has to be done. There is no practical way to change the clip level tags (unless you want the system used for old cards to be different to that used for new cards) so you would have to classify the cards using a seperate system to that for the clips implying extra work for each card that is released. To do it properly you would also have to do this work for all existing cards.

Rather than change the rating system or add another set of classifications on top of the existing system, with all the difficulties and incompatabilities that it would entail, I would much rather that Totem make a summary of the clip list. This summary can be created automatically as the information is already displayed in each card's clip list itself.

Clip tags are inaccurate...if the girl is a nude art model, it needs to be explicitly stated or they need to stop casting them. For girl in between like Jessika who is just shy and uncomfortably the cards should just be taggd as nudity...even if she slips a little full nudity in...we have girls inserting fingers that are tagged as full nudity on the clip, and then girls who spending 1 second revealing get the same rating.

with all the difficulties and incompatabilities that it would entail

My proposal would not entail any such thing. I would simply make a new classification in a way that would be clear, simple and precise; which would, so, not have any difficulties and would be easy doable. I repeat:

Cards with clips up to level 4 would be labeled as: Nude art card
Cards up to level 5, without sound: Full nudity card
Cards up to level 5, with sound: Explicit card (as they look, btw, to already have been labeled in new beta)
Cards up to level 5, with sound AND containing more of 50% clips of level 5: XXX card (or whatever name would look appropriate)

Having so precise rules, such a classification would also help us to immediately clarify our interest in a card and in its purchase just seeing its label - that means, in an easier and more immediate way than having to look for the clip list, open it and examine it attentively in order to make a decision.

Rather than change the rating system or add another set of classifications on top of the existing system, with all the difficulties and incompatabilities that it would entail, I would much rather that Totem make a summary of the clip list. This summary can be created automatically as the information is already displayed in each card's clip list itself.

I am not against nude art models, dancers and so. I like really a lot some of the models of the above list, instead.
That said, getting 5 new models who don't do any "open legs" show in approx. only 2 months looks to me, however, a little too much.

I think, anyway, that variety is always to be promoted; for the sake of clarity and in order to avoid complaints of any sort, I would propose, so, to get 4 different labels for published cards (instead of the two ones now in use), which could be:

• Nude art card;
• Full nudity card;
• Explicit card (which could group cards which are now labeled as XXX);
• XXX card (under this label I would group shows which contain all, or almost all, clips of level 5; as old "Deskbabes" ones had, and also some more recent experiments that I liked much - so that I would like they to go on, andso to get, e.g, 6 such cards published in an year.

They absolutely should not spend resources on old content that could be spent on getting more inspired talent in the year 2020, better constumes, props, or new technology for the company. If reproduction is cheap and easy and they are paying someone just to sit there, then reproduce but otherwise look forward and not backward.

Well said. I agree

Totem has shot two new girls during the pandemic...not sure how...but one is a xxx so it isn't old idancer content. One girl is from Portugal and one from Paris but both were probably stuck in paris. So the new cards will continue well into June, and by then the projections are Paris will be opened again to some extent. So I don't see them as having a lot of time for remastering. 2013 was a pretty bad year for cards and for the company and I don't really see a lot of content around the Emily Spenser time that warrants a redo as the sales can't be high for that period.

They absolutely should not spend resources on old content that could be spent on getting more inspired talent in the year 2020, better constumes, props, or new technology for the company. If reproduction is cheap and easy and they are paying someone just to sit there, then reproduce but otherwise look forward and not backward.

I believe totem needs to be more clear about the level of nudity in its shows. I understand the challenge in recruiting talent and there is certainly a customer base that appreciates girls who tease but don't do much else. In the last month we have seen:

Tanya
Anastasia
Kristina
Isabelle
Jessika

This is a large chunk of the shows that were shot BEFORE the pandemic. And none of them seem interested in perfoming a fully nude show. This is fine but they need to be labeled as nude art in their tags so the customer knows they will hide their privates during the show...or only show for fleeting seconds.

Hopefully I am wrong but I see a company making a boat load off of gambling, casting girls who don't want to peform a fully nude show, likely because they are cheaper, and then not being honest about the level of nudity. 1 5 second flash does not constitute a fully nude show.

PS: It isn't the casting that bothers me...I save money because I don't buy but...it is the poor labeling of cards which seems purposeful that bothers me.

One more thing you can do with this application is create a separate clip playlist for every card in your collection with just a few clicks. Here's how:

1. Select all cards or use a filter to select some cards of interest.
2. Use a filter to select the clips you want to see.
3. Use the Clip Playlists Control to create one playlist for each selected card. You can assign a descriptive name to each playlist.

The clips in each playlist will be arranged in hotness order from low to high. Within the same hotness you set the order clips will appear based on their type or staging. For example you can have all the pole clips ahead of the standing clips for the same hotness. Cards with SC clips (not many of them) will have the clips grouped first by SC code.

If you don't like the default ordering, you can open any clip playlist in this application and manually change the order however you like. All descriptive tags are shown so you can know what you are doing.

@stefnev1

Thanks. I hope people, particularly those with large collections, find it useful.

@SetFuego
I hope that you don't want me to cut the picture to let see only the legs ? 😉

Today, the very artistic and beautiful legs of Tanya Bahtina 💖

I've sticked this one too, because this app deserves to be always visible.

I just saw another thread that discussed permanently blocking clips.

One of the secondary capabilities of my Playlist Generator is that you can use it deselect clips as a group rather than one at a time. For example, if you don't like swing clips:

1. Use a filter to select all swing clips.
2. Invert your selection.
3. Use the Enable Only Selected Clips of Selected Cards button to mark the unselected clips as disabled.

If you have a more complicated need, create a "Don't Play" clip tag and use multiple filters to apply that tag to clips you don't want to see. Then use the above sequence to mark the in iStripper.

@pickle1 - I have not yet downloaded this card, but you said

on the basis of the definitions, this is not a "full nudity"

and then went on to describe something that sounded like it did, briefly, meet the "full nudity" definition.

However, your warning that the "full nudity" is only reached for a very short interval is a usefull one.

@TheEmu

I was raising this just to make people aware on this particular card so that they do not buy with high expectations and then end up slagging off Tanya because she "did not deliver".

If you compare Tanya's card to Jessika's "The Night Life" you will see very similar levels of exposure but Jessika's card is rightly classified as "nudity".

@pickle1

Unfortunately it only requires a brief flash of "full nudity" on a single clip to get a card so classified. A card's eroticism level is that of its highest rated clip, and a clip's rating will be assigned even if that level is reached for only a second or so. It has always been like this, and there are other cards like this one.

A lovely show from Tanya but please be aware - on the basis of the definitions, this is not a "full nudity" card - I consider it should be classified as "nudity".

This is based on @Wyldanimal 's post on the erotic levels where "full nudity" should be

" Clear direct Exposure of parts Below the waist, or very Erotic / Suggestive action. "

Only one clip - number 19 - is classified as "full nudity" and you only get a brief glimpse of pussy from behind.

If you accept that this is a "nudity" card you would not be disappointed.

Liza Del Sierra

Stacy Cruz, of course 💖💖

I fully agree, but in the picture on the left I have problems seeing legs at all, my eyes are locked at waist level. 😵 😜

Version 3.02 is now uploaded and available for download from https://virtuastripper.net/files/Playlist_Generator.zip

You'll like Anais Hills c0368 for sure.

Kyra Hot

Sofia Curly, Chloe Lamoure, Stella Jones, Candy Alexa, Georgie Lyall, Katrina Moreno podrian ser buenos puntos de empezar tu viaje.

Bueno. I would start with Katrina Moreno.
Muy Bien!!!

I'm an idiot.

On the scale of things, deleting a line of code is???? 😂

It looks like it will be another hour.

Buenas tardes.

Saben si hay modelos mas gorditas??? pueden pasar el nombre por favor????


good afternoon.

Do you know if there is a chubby model? can you pass your name please ???


Gracias

I'm sorry, I'm an idiot..didn't check that thread..forgive me. I'll wait for the new version as I wouldn't want to mess anything up doing it myself, thanks!

@DukeNukem

Yes. I somehow deleted one line of code after testing and before uploading the program. @Dfner reported it about 4 hours ago. I've confirmed it, fixed it and I'm testing the fix now. I should be uploading v3.02 in under an hour.

If you wish, you can fix this yourself. I've started a thread for problem and solutions:
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/44543/1?post=659401

Thanks for updating your fantastic program Dorsai, I seem to have a problem ...
when i start it up an error box comes out :

Execution of this application has stopped due to a run time error.
The application can't continue and will be shut down.


I m running Windows 10 (up to date)

If you could help me i'd really appreciate it:)!

@HansSachs,

This is the most interesting thing about this application... I hope that will be done sooner on later.

Thanks. It is one of the things I had in mind. It makes group sourcing of tags possible, but people would have to put in the time to agree on the meaning of a tag and then to review all cards or clips. There would need to be a way to exchange the tag lists. Someone would have to coordinate the effort.

Stacy Cruz, of course 💖💖

All,

The problem reported by @Dfner means that version 3.01 will not load data correctly. Somehow I deleted one line of code after my testing and before I packaged this version for uploading! I'll have a corrected version uploaded later today.

I've created a separate thread for problems and solutions in the Bugs & Fixes section of this forum.

Lets keep this thread to a discussion of capabilities.

Since the application allows tag lists to be exported, imported and merged, it is possible for a group of people to assemble a list of all cards that meet some criteria if they are willing to invest the time.

This is the most interesting thing about this application... I hope that will be done sooner on later.

@Dorsai6 Please see my post above. There is also Microsoft Access as 64 bit:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=55555

If converting or modifying your excellent tool for 64-bit Access is not practical or possible, that's ok. I can always check if I can easily download a 32-bit version of it myself along with 64-bit. Maybe the error I encountered are due to this version difference?

is Windows 10 (64-bit) not supported?

I'm running Windows 10 64 bit. I think that Access is 32 bit only. That is consistent with the 2 GB maximum size for an Access application.

Incidentially my collection of about 2700 cards requires about 900 MB and I suspect a full collection would be about 1.5 GB.

I thank you on the playlist Playlist Generator, don't know what exactly what to do with it

Well, there are lots of things you can do with it.

My original intent was to make a tool that would let me tag clips that I really like so that I can package them into playlists. Here two examples.

I like window washing clips. I used this application to make a playlist of my favorite models window washing. Then I watched that playlist while those clips were running and used the Now Playing dialog to mark the ones I liked best. Then I used the application to make a "Best of window washing" playlist. Now I'm gradually adding more clips from models who didn't make my first cut.

I also like the "Pick me" transition clips. This application can make playlists of just transition clips. (iStripper won't play all types, but it will play the pick-me's.) I used the same procedure to make a "Best of pick-me's."

***

While creating the original version, I also included a capability to add my own tags to cards. This way, I'm not bound to Totem's categories. Since the application allows tag lists to be exported, imported and merged, it is possible for a group of people to assemble a list of all cards that meet some criteria if they are willing to invest the time. I'm gradually adding tags to cards that have something special that I like. I don't spend much time at this, so the result so far is spotty. Since I like performances where the model appears to be friendly and playful, that is the tag that gets most of my attention.

A number of users of earlier versions suggested that I should add a tagging capability to models. I've done that in this version. Since I care about hair length, I've added tags for short, medium, long and extra long with definitions of the criteria for each.

***

Besides using tags, the application allows you to filter (search) your collection by any combination of characteristics you choose. I could, for example, find all 4K "e" series cards by my 60 favorite models and in those cards find all pole dance clips that have a playtime of more than 150 seconds. If I wanted to I could further refine that to just blonds and red-heads from central or western Europe. The attached screen shots show:

1. The filter to select blonds and red-heads from what I consider central or western europe countries.
2. The models found by that filter.
3. The filter to select 4K E cards.
4. The 4 cards that met that criteria. All from the same model! (There were 122 cards from the selected models, but only 4 satisfied the search.)
5. The filter to select pole clips of more than 150 seconds.
6. One of the cards showing the selected clip. (It turns out that each of the 4 cards had just one clip that satisfied the search)
7. The clip playlist ready to be saved.

Supported Operating System
Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Server 2003 R2 (32-Bit x86), Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 editions, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2, Windows Vista Service Pack 1, Windows XP Service Pack 3
Only the 32-bit Access 2010 Runtime is supported on Windows XP Service Pack 3.

Many thanks @Dorsai but... is Windows 10 (64-bit) not supported?