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Cartref
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Joined in Sep 2007
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Moving iStripper data to a new location

Everything about iStripper
September 16, 2020, 35 answers
All for many years, this forum contained a sticky that referred to the Registry "hacks" that were being recommended by a whole bunch of Users.

So as a Mod, I wrote a sticky at the time, that no one was to provide registry "hacks" unless that individual was prepared to support an unlearned member who tried said registry "hack" and stuff it up because of lack of knowledge.

I then set about coming down like the hammer of God to anyone who provided such registry "hacks" and maintained that over many many years.

In those days I was one of the more technical savvy members.

Since the migration to the new Forum, that sticky was discarded and that did not worry me, because in the intervening years, WA became openly active in the Forum and it was obvious that his technical knowledge far exceeded my own. Also and most importantly, WA supported any member who acted on his advise to resolve the issue.

So where are we, its a debate about a word "hack" which I have put in parenthesises in this entire post for a reason.

To me, I still regard a registry edit as a "hack" because that is how I learnt to view it, but as the person who wrote the prohibition against registry "hacks" I don't care whether you call it a "hack" or a system settings edit, so long as whoever is making the suggestion, will support the member if any problems arise.

As WA ALWAYs does that, I do not have any problem with how he defines what he is saying (and he is technically right). Indeed my data file location was amended so long ago that I forget when for exactly the reasons that wtprivate was wanting to achieve.

I can also say that the Totem Development team have long know of people doing this and they did not mind, but what they would have wanted at all costs is to be suddenly faced with a bunch of inexperienced users going and making edits to their registry file without understanding the consequences of what they were doing and then be expecting the Totem team to fix the problems.

Hence my stance so many years ago.

But given how WA has ALWAYS supported members who make registry changes on his behalf, I have NEVER felt any need to criticise his advice.

The issue of whether Totem should provide additional tools is a separate topic and it may be something on their drawing board, as it took them a mere 15 years or so to introduce the ability to change the models folder in their system settings
TheEmu
Joined in Jul 2012
7424 post(s)

Moving iStripper data to a new location

Everything about iStripper
September 16, 2020, 35 answers
Windows,
In years past, each Application had it's Own .ini file where needed.
In this file were user adjustable Settings / Variables.

It was not Hacking to open an ini file with a text editor and edit one of the values.

Later, ALL of the ini files were consolidated in to what is known as the registry.
They still function just like ini files, but now located in a common repository.

Editing of an Applications Registry values is not Hacking by definition of hacking.

In my opinion unless there was some user level documentation describing those ini file settings then using an editor to modify them was hacking. This is still true for edits of undocumented items in the registry.

Were Totem to add a simple one or two sentence description to the user manual saying that the data path can be changed by editing the registry item under discussion then it would not be a hack.

I simply can not see how someone can say

The TEAM does NOT want members to relocate the set of DATA folders.
They want it to remain in the Members profile, in the default installation location.

So there is no Provided Setting in the App to change it.

It's not meant to be changed.

and at the same time say that changing it is not a hack.

It is an easy hack, it is a clean hack, it is almost certainly a safe hack. But it is a hack.

It is a subject that I am very sensitive on because in the past I have been ***** to support a piece of software for something like 10 years because someone decided to bypass the user interface and directly use knowledge of various implementation details instead. The editing of am undocumented registry value, though ***** in comparison, in exactly the same sort of thing.

I have also seen, and ***** from, significant maintainance problems arise from people changing program specific environment variables after installation. This is a very close parallel to the case under discussion.