Interesting thread:)

When did VG become X-Rated?
I don`t know the answer,since I`m a member from 2010.It seems VG become X-Rated since 2007 after I read some posts of the older members.

Anyway, what understand Totem through explicit and X-rated clips is not the same thing with what understand most of the members.
WA explained very well in another thread what understand Totem by explicit and X-Rated clips when he said 95 % of the clip can be full naked clip and just for a peek of spreading legs become after that explicit clip.

I heard some members saying "if you like to see more X-Rated clips,go to DB".It`s not the same thing and I liked what WA said above("Deskbabes is not a substitute for Virtuagirl, it also not a more X-rated version of VirtuaGirl.
Deskbabes is it's own product, it is not a stripping or Dance product.
"Sex on your Desktop" featuring all girls.
With VirtuaGirl, I want a good Performance that includes All the Levels, including Explicit and X-rated content, just like it has always been.
I don't think anyone is asking fo VG to become a hardcore XXX porn product.
We just want it to still contain the explicit and X-rated type of clips it has in the past")

I never planned to have FULL COLLECTION of VG,but this thing happened 3 days ago.
Do you know why?
Beacause I joined this site first from curiosity and after that I remained a customer in these 3 years because I saw Totem always brought improuvements to their product and I`m talking here especially the quality(the resolution), better and better casting and a good balance between standing and taskbar clips,between full clothes clips,topless clips,full naked clips and explicit(X-Rated) clips.

NO COMPETITION HERE JUST POST YOUR FAVOURITE MODELS PICS WITH UR COMMENTS THAT WHY YOU LIKE THE PUSSY MOST AND WHY YOU FEEL THAT SHE HAS THE BEST PUSSY ON VG. COMPARISONS WITH THE OTHER POSTS ALLOWED .

darn folks, in all the ***** I've made a mistake myself.. JayZ971 was the last legal voter in the Aria-Caprice challenge, so he gets to choose a new challenger.
sorry about that!

Seeing as it's past midnight Paris time, JayZ971's challenger will challenge Mirka until 12:00 paris time tomorrow.

my vote is 4 Lorena.. so- Lorena 8 , Mirka 2

@dutchsexking,
@HemiCuda,

Thanks, guys, for being so positive!
This attitude deserves respect, because mostly we hear just complainings about all of which is wrong and not often a good word about the great work made by developers.
Keep still positive ];-)

Mmmm...Lorena is more lovely,personable, fun,sensual,...but Mirka fits so well into various SleazyGeezer FantaSex Scenarios of mine and "twangs my magic Twanger" more effectively....& more often, so I gotta go with her..
(as I have so many times!)

Lorena 7
Mirka 2!

apparently some of you guys never been in a strip club,toples club or fullnude clubs,I have seen pink,fingering, p**** spreading,ass showing and heavy petting on all of them,BYOB clubs are the most explicit just a little short of a sexual act.

so grow up and let it go.

I support 91hebasu as well. All the necessary has been said already in the 3 first posts of Mods and that's it. If someone should have problems with the law, find a lawyer. And if the conscience does not allow to watch these certain clips, well... don't watch them...

lorena 7
mirka 1

What I have to say about this topic, is that Rex should let the girls make only strip in the shows, because maybe we are losing a lot of magnificent pole acrobacies for his policy of "leg spread must be" (nothing against Rex, just in pro of a good pole performance)

Hello @dutchsexking

i agrée and me also say a big thanks ♥♥♥☺

mirka

lorena 6
mirka 1

lorena too

lorena 6
mirka 0

Yes very nice sentiments @dutchsexking and very well said.

I algree 91hebasu n 3leggedman. I like virtuagirl the it is. d109out.

For me that would be really wierd so for me its a no on that. It should stay the way it is now.

I algree didgedrum. I for one like virtuagirl the way it is. d109 out.

Lorena for me!

Lorena-5?
Mirka-0

Lorena :-)
Mirka 0

I don't think so droopy, this subject doesn't usually get a good reception !...:)

Well it's not an option I want. But to each his own

I have no idea if this is a viable option for VG...

Maybe a vote is in order?

Lorena!!!

Lorena 3
Mirka 0

Bonjour, si je peut ajouter une information, en voici une

une des différence entre explicite et x-rated

dans un film ont peut montrer un acte sexuel de façon explicite mais le reste du film n'est pas x-rated, c'est à dire n'est pas pornographique, ceci parce que l'acte fait partie du scénario mais ne constitue pas tout le film.

montrer un acte sexuel de façon explicite est aussi de la pornographie, c'est une façon détourné pour certain réalisateurs de montrer des actes sexuel non simulé mais ne portant pas l'étiquette x-rated (pornographique) (bien sur la plupart de ces films ont été censuré dans les salles de cinéma).

j'en concluerai que la différence n'est qu'un terme juridique.

mais explicite et x-rated sont dans la même catégorie qui est pornographique.

aussi a savoir ce que l'ont entend par érotisme. le débat peut être très long et plein d'arguments peuvent être donnée de chaque camps.

La team à décidé de faire une différence, est à juste titre, que explicite serai aussi dans la catégorie érotisme et que x-rated serai dans la catégorie pornographique.

edit: seulement il faudrait donc déplacer une partie des clips explicite comportant des pénétration dans la section x-rated, ce qui va prendre du temps. sauf si l'ont veux bien considérer que ces dite pénétration soit de la catégorie érotisme.

comment choisir ?
explicite est un moment de pornographie dans le clip
x-rated est pornographique du début à la fin du clip

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Hello, if I can add information, here are a

One of the difference between explicit and x-rated

in a film can have a sex show explicitly but the rest of the film is not x-rated, is not pornographic, This is because the act is part of the script but it is not the whole movie.

show a sexual act explicitly are also pornography, it is a devious way for some filmmakers to show non-simulated sexual acts but not with the x-rated (pornographic) label (of course most of these films were censored in cinemas).

I will conclude that the difference is a legal term.

but explicit and x-rated are in the same category pornographic.

also now know what are meant by eroticism ? debate can be very long and full of arguments can be given to each camp.

The team decided to make a difference, rightly, be placed explicit in the category eroticism and x-rated in the pornographic category.

edit: just so it would move some explicit clips containing penetration in x-rated section, which will take time. unless want to have to consider that these so-called penetration are placed in the category eroticism.

how to choose?
explicit: show sometime pornography in the clip
x-rated: show pornography the beginning to the end of the clip

sorry for all edit.

Lorena!

Lorena 2
Mirka 0

I've kinda been wanting to say the same thing. I've truly enjoyed VG, and I look forward, every day, to turning on my comp and seeing the new card [I'm not P2P'ng].

The quality and variety of cards have been exceptional, as has the customer service - when I've run into the occasional need for customer assistance.

VG is truly a wonderful, quality and fun experience.

Ok i'll choose.

Lorena is the next challenger

It's Lorena vs Mirka first

I vote Lorena

Lorena 1
Mirka 0

Nice post dutchsexking,
I'm sure Totem appreciates your gratitude.

Please be careful of the TONE of your posts.
Forum discussions can continue so long as the Tone doesn't get out of hand.
And no personal attacks for someone elses view or contribution.

So far the majority of the posts have been a very civil discussion.
Let's keep it that way.

Totem has to follow the laws within their geographic location. Paris France.
It's solely up to you as a member, to make sure that your Use of their product, does not ***** any Local Laws in your own Geographic location.

So the bottom line is, Totem's product is legal in Paris, but YOU might be breaking the law where you reside by using their product.

That's about as simple as I can make it.

@colin53

installs have been reset. you are good to go.

Make a post in this thread and a moderator will help you as soon as they se it:
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=4&ftId=17481

Aria still wins! Now we wait for CyberVixen to pick a new challenger.

Trannies, she-males, ladyboys, chicks with d*cks.

.

Can someone help?
I bought a new computer and cannot instal virtuagirl on it as it says I have too many installations. I uninstalled it from my old computer but still cannot install.
I don't understand why. Can someone help with this problem? please.

Dominika C

What is a "T-Girl"?

I own all the VG & DB cards that I have access to(1803). Regardless, of what direction Totem takes with their products, I am a lifetime customer...... until my wife finds my Model stash!

Dominika C

CORRECTION:
THOSE PICTURES, IN THE SAUNA, ARE NOT KARINA.
I'm so disappointed!

It would be nice to see you add a T-girl option, or a separate Virtual T-girl program.

I fully agree with 91hebasu

Can we please just give it a rest and stop the bickering about explicit and x-rated material. Especially this new legality discussion. If it wasn't legal, they wouldn't have been in business at all.

We all have the ability to choose which clips we wish to watch and block the ones we don't. People who keep trying to insist that no one should have the right to see something YOU don't want to see has been an old and tiring subject. I personally am sick of people who bitch and whine about what they believe is too much.

If you don't like the product, don't buy it. If you just want pretty girls dancing and no nudity, Totem is working on that too.



I feel that this thread has quickly become one members Crusade and the Powers That Be need to put a stop to it and remove the sticky. Close the thread, if need be.

Enough is Enough.

Indeed, as a company and as a business, not as creators and not about the content of their products as I said. The content Totem delivers is legal in the free world. Inside the legal aspects, they are free to produce their product any way they want and as long it generates them a benefit.

The discussion just derailed from what level is fingering and spicy stuff alike to if laws and customs for real strip clubs apply to this software. That is not even on the table. In some countries any form of porn is prohibited. In others is even ilegal and is punishable by law to even look at this site and in others you just will go to hell.

Totem would be doing just wrong if they started to think about "reality". This is fantasy, and in fantasy all is good as long as it ***** nobody.

Hi everyone can anyone help, since I updated to version 1.1.0.70 all the cards in my collection have changed from colour to black and white, I don't think I changed any settings, thanks in advance....

Nope. The content is as free as with a movie or a book. That's liberty of expression. The company must comply with the regulations for an adult product, like the 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Compliance. What they put inside is what makes people pay for it and make it a business.

As a company, me is pretty sure they also comply with all the legal requirements. As creators, is their product and their choice to present whatever they want.

I am a very proud user of Totem. From end 2008 I am using the software of Totem. I have seen that Totem do anything to make us safisfied. As I see the cards I have buy in the years the quality is raising because the software is advance to new srandards. But that's only possible as users/members buy cards or get subscriptions.

Thank you Totem team for your input and I hope you are devolping more and more things to make Virtua Girl and Deskbabe an even better product so it stays interesting for existing users and new users.

Of course you can compare a real strip club to this, the software is based and tries to recreate aspects of one. But that is all. This software is not even a "strip club simulator", you don't get to tip the strippers, buying them drinks, have a noisy crowd clapping and whistling and a bouncer that kick your arse if you ***** the strippers, lol.

This is an original creation based upon a real activity and just recreates some aspects. Being a virtual world it follows its own rules and need to follow no real, legal, administrative or laboral conditions as any real club. This is just a software and can be anything the creators want. Totem indeed offer striptease, you will get that. But being this a virtual, original, made up club, the limits to what can be included in a show are only limited by the creators will and not the real world.

I dont know about you guys, but personally I find that VG has better looking girls than DB(excluding the ones who perform in both) so the whole "If you want explicit stuff, go to DB" argument is flawed. I have way more VG cards than DB because of this reason. I know on VG the explicitness is limited but still, very enjoyable when it appears. Who cares what real strip clubs are like, this is a computer program, its never gonna be like the real thing. Leave the explicitness as is, no need to change nothing.