It has been suggested that XXX cards are becoming nothing more than non-XXX cards with a few XXX clips added. It has also been suggested that those who do not want XXX action can just disable those clips. In my opinion neither of these are true, nor should they be. Even though the structure if the two ranges of cards are converging they should still differ in at least the following aspects (over and above the obvious one of the presence of XXX content)

Clothing and initial state of undress

I would expect that, on average, the style of clothing would differ between XXX and non-XXX cards. Cards in which the girls are wearing ordinary, everyday clothing could be expected to be common in the non-XXX range but rather rare in the XXX range, conversely "exotic" clothing such as crotchless panties and fetish wear could be expected to be more common among the XXX cards.

I would expect that XXX cards that started with a fully dressed performer would be less common than for the non-XXX cards.

Rate of progression of hotness level.

I would expect that the XXX cards would tend to pass through the lower "hotness" levels somewhat more quickly than was the case for the non-XXX cards, though not necessarily very much more so - there should be some variation in pace between cards. However the the XXX cards can include crotch grabbing and light masterbation clips as well as those in which a sex toy is shown or lightly used while still dressed so this does not necessarily mean that an XXX card should always imply a fast "race to nakednes".

Proportion of table clips

I would expect that XXX cards have a higher proportion of table clips than the non-XXX cards as these seem slightly better suited to the XXX cards than the non-XXX cards.

Here is an example of what I have in mind: I set show duration to all clips. I activate iStripper XXX only. I click a new checkbox below progressive hotness called "controlled hotness". An iStripper XXX card starts playing but only the first two hotness levels. It continues playing clips for the same card from those two levels until I right-click and select the new "hotter" control. Now it plays only clips that are topless or nudity. Each time I select hotter it moves up a level until all I'm seeing are XXX clips. The card doesn't change until I right-clip and select next model or next outfit at which time the hotness resets to tease.

I can think of lots of ways to embellish the above capability. You might offer 3 or 4 levels of controlled hotness where the user can defined which hotness level(s) each level of controlled hotness includes. You might allow the user to preset that the hotness level steps up after a certain number of clips have been played at a particular level. You might allow the users to select staging as well as hotness level. For example, I might want to start every new card with a window washing clip if one was available. Or, perhaps I want a mix of standing and pole clips at the first level and on bar teasing clips at the next with XXX only at the highest.

I see I have drifted off topic so I'll stop now.

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This would be ideal, allow to save the progressive playment of one or more groups of progressive hotness which should be sticky settings (so remembering these settings and playment location when switching to another model then back to the current, with a reset to default option. Allow suppression of certain models in the context menu so as to ignore and remove from the playlist entirely, so not just a skip but skip and inactivate so it wont play again).

Normal cards and XXX cards should clearly be different, they are labeled as different products. You buy a normal card you expect the stripping and dancing, you buy an xxx card you expect xxx things happening, whether it's standing, pole usage or taskbar clips. They have been 100% XXX focused with some stripping foreplay, the outcry was for diversity in the cards, not watering down the XXX.

In those cases where two or more clips are just adjacent parts of an original longer performance it would be nice if there was the option to play them without any breaks, i.e. as if they were a single longer clip. This would satisfy those of us that prefer seeing all stages of long full performances and those that only want to see certain stages of them. But I have no idea how practical it would be.

I agree completely, @TheEmu! I'm thinking of one DeskBabes card in particular (Linet A & Sasha Jones Duo #532) where "Scene 4" is split into 3 pieces. Unfortunately, the clip breaks are not in places where there is a break in the action.

Te tripple x stuff has no great appeal to me. I realize that there are different strokes fr different folks. I have always like the strip in strip tease. The tease is just as important. Any bimbo can strip off her clothes and masterbate bretending to enjoy it. No art in that. But a dancer heo know out to move her body, to tease with timing and aluring looks, is much better. Leaving things to the imagination of the view is ofter much better. The imagination is personal and limitless.

I am a long time subscriber. Virutagirl was so beautiful a product because it was not just more porn. There is plenty of porn out there. Free porn and porn you can purchase. Your product has alway been far more original and unique.

The performers who have stage presence, dancing talent, and beauty hold the most appeal for me. I like professional talented striptease artists rather that porn bimbos.

@Katzpaw asked

Am I the only one who seems to like a 3-4 clip scene structure running about 10-12 minutes?

I prefer having mostly 3 to 4 minute clips, and would like having even longer clips, to the alternative of a larger number of much shorter clips. However, I see why those who want to skip straight to the "action" would dislike longer clips and I would not be in favour of very long clips that started at the XXX level.

In those cases where two or more clips are just adjacent parts of an original longer performance it would be nice if there was the option to play them without any breaks, i.e. as if they were a single longer clip. This would satisfy those of us that prefer seeing all stages of long full performances and those that only want to see certain stages of them. But I have no idea how practical it would be.

Why even change ?
Honestly this feels a LOT like a nerfing down of the format. I really don't see how this could ever be supposed to make these cards better. As of late there have been very few XXX cards and now you make them even less different from the other cards ? At this rate why don't you just stop making XXX cards and just randomly produce a card with one or two XXX clips in it ? Won't make much of a difference honestly :(
That's sad. XXX cards were the main reason I came here so if you go on like this I'll probably just stop buying cards altogether.

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I'll tell you what does NOT work. It's the "no nudity" switch. It does NOTHING!

I've been off Virtualgirl for over a year due to a dead OS moved and then could not find my install disks so I had to get Windows 10. But not until after the free download was over. What is the new format vs. the old one? I can tell you this much. The video quality is excellent. They seem to have gotten the right lighting with green screen formula down. No choppy edges that I can see.

I love the new format.

The only thing i think you should need to improve is better costumes or cosplays, as an example older cards that used to have costumes like military, stewardness, maids, police, cowgirls and other with such originality. The recent ones i dont even bother to buy because they all are in lingerie.

I voted for the "old" format with some tuning.

First, I own every card. Yes, every single "VirtuaGirl", "DeskBabes", "VirtuaGirlClassic", "iStripper", and "iStripperXXX" card. I will continue to buy every one, and I don't have them running most of the time.

However, when I go back and look at early DeskBabes cards vs. later DeskBabes cards vs. the first several iStripperXXX cards vs. the last several iStripperXXX cards I find something of a disturbing trend. Note that I'm referring only to Solo cards. Duo cards aren't the same, and since Totem has decided to stop the Duo card, it doesn't really matter. I also ignored the "Preview" clips, as most of them are "No Nudity" and very short (about 20 seconds).

The first DeskBabes cards have mostly short (less than 2 minute) clips, with about half "Full Nudity" and half "XXX". As far as "Table" vs. "Standing", it depends greatly on the model, but seems to be weighted toward the "Table" clips.

Later DeskBabes cards begin to have longer clips, but still about the same total length of film. That means fewer clips, but each clip is about twice as long. Still about the same ratio of "Full Nudity" to "XXX", both in terms of number of clips and time.

There are some cards with very few XXX clips. For example, Linet A #531 has 3 XXX clips out of 10 total, comprising 12:22 out of 35:44 total time.

There are also some cards with almost all XXX clips. For example, Angel Diamond #575 has only 1 clip of 4 minutes that is not XXX.

These later cards also tend to be almost exclusively "Table" clips, even for the clips that aren't XXX.

The very first iStripperXXX card (Vanessa Black) and the very last DeskBabes card (Vanessa Decker) have almost exactly the same split for number of clips between XXX and everything else, but Ms. Black's clips are about twice as long as Ms. Decker's.

By the time I get to Tricia Teen's card (#112) however, there are far fewer XXX clips and thus a significantly lower percentage of total time devoted to XXX.

The last iStripperXXX card (Rebecca Volpetti #206) has only two XXX clips, each about 4:45 long, but 12 other clips for a total of over 20 minutes. This means that she has 6 times more clips not touching herself and spends more than twice as much time not touching herself at some point during the clip.

I realize this is a long post, so here's the point:

DeskBabes moved from short clips with XXX material in them to longer clips with XXX in them. This is a good thing. iStripperXXX moved from several longer clips with XXX in them to fewer clips of the same length with XXX in them. This is a bad thing.

I like longer clips (4 to 5 minutes) with most of them containing XXX material. That's why it's called iStripperXXX. These are supposed to be strippers, not porn stars, but if you're going to call it XXX, it should have XXX material. But there should be some dancing and teasing. It isn't iXXX, but iStripperXXX.

I would LOVE to see some cosplay, and or body painted costumes get implemented. Those with some butt jewels and tails I think would be a fairly nice touch. I think it would be a nice touch. Also, I would like to see more workout oriented clips, not necessarily weights, but jumping activities and such. Plus, I like the apparel (sports bras and booty shorts "yoga pants are my kryptonite" ;)

Something was revealed about Tina Kay in this thread...but it looks like you're cutting onions atm so you can't see it 😆

Alina definitely has some thick thighs and full hips, giving me hope that she might have a great ass.😜

I can hope, can't I?

I was really expecting something about Tina Kay to be revealed in this thread 😆

Cages 👎 Poles 👍

They are super clunky on the desktop, there are of course some really hot clips, but overall they were distracting.

Am I the only one who seems to like a 3-4 clip scene structure running about 10-12 minutes?

I also like the idea that not every card has to be cookie cutter, have one with pole focus other with standing focus. These shows can be tailor made for specifics rather than many random stripping clips like the normal cards Longer teasing, heavier petting in the standing and pole clips, xxx ***** under clothing or with clothing on still. XXX cards should have a much more lustful feel over a normal card.

The pole xxx clip is high on my list to see, holding onto the pole riding a toy sounds amazing.

Animal print is so damn sexy I swear 😛

The new format sounds good to me. I'll take quality over explicitness anytime.

Miss the duos but things change, Just keep giving us beautiful sexy motivated girls.

I understand how you feel but please don't *****...I mean don't stress over it because these things happen...just sit down, breathe and relax...enjoy what you do have...I'm sure Tina Kay would want you to do the same! *hugs* 😊💙

Sorry, I´m not rally understand ... I´m from Germany ... Can i change the language? And how can i see the new format? What is the different?

I like what you did with the Cara Mell set. The istripper cards were more about teasing and the dancing was slower and more sensual. The one hybrid card was more fast paced , much sexier, with some light twerking and shaking. I know that most girls of late don't have the body that Cara Mell has and therefore lack the flexibility to be both slow/sensual and fast/sexy but it was epic to see, and it encourage more card buying. Make the xxx dance simulate sex movements, whereas the regular sets simulate strip tease. Heck, you could even pair outfits. So istripper regular series has a full piece business set with lingerie underneath. And then the accompanying xxx card has just the full lingerie. Any direction that adds more dancing and encourages a diversity of moves if best. I think every girl on the site can learn to shake their ass, do the splits to the best of their abilities, and use the poll as a prop well enough to show off.

less fake boobs,

I like it a lot when a xxx card brings on foot clips, i was very boring with only table clips, please add more clips dancing in a xxx way, i would buy them instantly.

Resolution** 😳

Ahh, understandable 😪

If I want to see a girl with a dildo I choose the XXX. If I want to see a strip, I'll buy the other. I have little interest in hand masterbation. But I understand everyone is different. I like the introductions even though I almost never have the sound on.

In any case you should be ok, as long as you keep the quality of the girls high. Don't let the quality of the women sink into the abyss like you have in the past.

Sound is the most important component for me :) Thanks for reaching out to your consumers for feedback. Side note: would be interesting to know what music they were dancing to. I'm guessing it would cost more to be able to include the actual music (copyright, etc.) or else that would be a great addition as well.

new format is FAR better. I love that there are very hot pole and standing clips now instead of just finger or dildofest. I buy these now every time when In only baught the old ones when the model was extremely hot or I had credits ***** a hole in my account..

cuz of technical difficulties 😱

There are still missing something: oiled bodys. I would like to see more girls covered with oil.

So true!

I think the new format is great, it just needs to be purposeful. IstripperXXX should be littered with pantiless/crotchless outfits, sheer lingerie, cupless bras, micro bikinis, tube skirts/tops with nothing underneath, masturbating on the glass, etc. I think the new outfit has more potential for more interesting shows, but the format could be lazily produced to just be Istripper with a dildo.

Tina Kay's #0199 Unsap my Top. and Estonika's #0196 Higher Education are what the new XXX format should be. The format should take advantage of being explicit from the beginning. This should not be A regular VG/Istripper card that just has dildos or some fingering. I ***** the future of the format will often lead to cards like Tina Kay's #0200 Yours for A Day. I feel like the new format should be essentially gimmicks/more outragous outfits, that are accented with a few table and masturbation clips. The old clips did get boring to a point. especially when its nearly the same routine making mutilple cards redundant. The worst offender was Tracy Smile's XXX cards.

(Some of) Alina N

If a user doesn't want XXX content, they can disable it from settings. If there's some non-XXX and XXX content and a switch to disable XXX, then everybody can be happy.

That is not quite true. I want XXX content, but in XXX shows I would like a lower proportion of it than was previously the case. This could be provided by increasing the overall length of a show, in which case the above quote would be true, but that is not really an option.

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not, but why is 1080p the highest resoultion for this card? There are 2 cards released before this one that has 3k resoultion.

Well 0es are at the bottom, so don't go deeper than you need to... 😉
But I agree - boxes should be filled all the way ...
( Marketing tricks) 😄

We think it’s important even for XXX cards to stay closer to the original VirtuaGirl DNA. We’re producing girls on the desktop, not porn movies.

Totem Entertainment is the Only and Leading company I know that produce Desktop Girls producing for Striptease and XXX Content. Customers like myself (in minority) doesn't really have another place or company to go for this kind of XXX (Porn) Content for the Desktop, thats why I'm very loyal to this company because it is a "One of a Kind".

Use the web for Porn I hear members already :D but yeah, Desktop activities are not the same as Web Videos (Risk of malware, adware, UI of the website, video's are posted but removed aswell etc - All bad experiences, came from websites before I found Totem Entertainment).

I dont really know what I just read, is it feeling of regrets Totem Entertainment has? by Software as Deskbabes and it's XXX Content?

Girls that I have zero shows of should not be on the list.

First; it would make for easier reading.

Second; It'd be a shorter list. (Very short in some cases!)

Third; I find all those unfilled boxes slightly OCD :)

It's actually not at the answer ikon... ;)
And it appears that comments in the new forum, does not showup in profile either.
So there is no other way... which actually is a shame...

...or possibly usable in the 'Answer this topic' area... as you avatar is right there. It would be better then trying to find your last post... :)

***Last Bit of Energy***
This 'Poll' will help totem Entertainment alot in making their decissions in the end, but still as special request to TOTEM ENTERTAINMENT: Pleeeaassee, come up with a third type of Card... to make ALL of your customers happy. I will even think it's worth to buy the New XXX Format together with the Old XXX Format Cards. Your company only will experience benefits with the three types of cards in your Girls Store and we as all different kind of customers with different suggestions and idea's... we will experience the luxery to choose between three types of cards, Altough you probaly will produce 2 á 3 Cards of each Type of Card. This is the ONLY solution for ALL party's, really, believe me. I really would like to ask you 'Rex' or 'Manue' to think about this special request and talk with eachother there at the company by a meeting or something.😀 😊 😀

~ I support New Content, really. I'm eager to buy those New XXX Content cards with the new changes that probaly will be added soon! but bring back the old cards into production aswell with the Old XXX Format, for the small group of customers and myself I beg (on my knees) to see the old xxx rated format back in production, and maybe the Old XXX Rated format under another name (iBabes) ~


Thanks for reading, Terbone 😎

I love the explicit content, but agree that more, shorter clips could be good. If the model is really in the groove, let the clip go as long as feels natural. Especially for duos, if there is good chemistry, let it run! But if there's places to break it up without disturbing the flow, go for it. I like to pick and choose the clips I like best from the clip card's clip list. Easier to customize the experience with a lot of short clips than just a few long ones.

I love the model's intro. Please keep that. I also like seeing the model clothed if the outfit is hot. A lot of the old xxx cards had very little footage of the model in full outfit. Again, more, shorter clips could help get a good mix.

I agree with some earlier comments about adding sound to regular cards.

If a user doesn't want XXX content, they can disable it from settings. If there's some non-XXX and XXX content and a switch to disable XXX, then everybody can be happy.

I think that my opinion suits best to 3rd option: "The new format goes in the right direction, but needs significant improvements".

I was very happy when I saw that iStripper XXX is going to be similiar to regular cards. As I said before in another topic: I'm here for dancing and teasing, not for XXX action.

For me indroduction clips are nice addition. It's nice to hear girl's voice.

If we're talking about xxx action - I like clips with dildos. The most of other clips were boring for me cause they were very similiar to each other. So one or two clips where girl is riding a dildo and one clip with real orgasm at the end will be enough. When I said "dildo" I had "dildo" in mind, not "vibrator".

All clips with XXX action should have sound. Clips with no such action don't require sound.

Some guys mentioned about cages and swings - I don't like any of them. Girls on swings have very limited range of moves there. Cages - nothing special, sometimes boring, I wasn't impressed. But wet clips with window cleaning is other thing. It was very good idea. I don't know who was the initiator/creator of this concept, but I would like to put him a turn :).

There are still missing something: oiled bodys. I would like to see more girls covered with oil. Ekhm.. not engine oil, to be more precise ;)

@shodan084
Yep.
As previous comments have disappeared from account history in profile, I kind of had to make a comment, to get to see my own.
Hench the 😎
But it would actually be nice to have this funcionality in the profile....

I appreciate the thread here. As I've read in some posts, I also enjoy some long clips. Really short clips is part of what makes some of my earliest (VGHD) shows almost unwatchable. By the time she does anything, it's over. With really short clips, it seems half the time is waiting for the next show to start.

As far as sound, It would be nice if you'd put some kind of padding below the table the girls are on. When they drop their shoes/boots, the loud "thunk" they make when landing on the floor is very irritating.

This comment isn't really about the changes you've made, but a feature I'd like to see you add. I'd love to have a strip poker mini-game in iStripper. That way I could strip my favorite models myself.

@DuziKolo

It seems to me that Totems main interest is to get more people to buy cards, so blocking people who don't buy cards or don't buy XXX cards might be a mistake. Also remember that Totem will decide how the product looks, this poll simple provides them with some additional information. I'm sure that Totem will consider a lot more things than just the result of this poll in making their choices.

As a relatively new customer, I'm not sure what the differences are between the old and new format. But, I buy mostly XXX cards, and the more explicit, the more variation among the types of scenes, the more varied the methods and toys, the more girls who do XXX performances, solo or duo, the better.

As already stated by others, there is nothing wrong with offering different products that appeal to different customer wants and likes. XXX cards should be XXX cards. Stripper cards with full nudity should be stripper cards. And, there is nothing wrong with a little crossover, but it should be made clear that the performance is a crossover.

Now, let me explain why I think the iStripper XXX cards are totally different than just any old porn clip, why the iStripper XXX cards are FAR SUPERIOR to ANY OLD porn clip.

The iStripper "style" applied to the XXX cards make them completely different than any other product out there, including porn clips with masturbation and orgasms.

With regular porn, it is as if I'm just a voyeur watching a porn actress going through the motions in front of a camera as if it is only digital pixels that see her, not an audience.

With iStripper XXX, because of the iStripper "way" and "style" which includes directors, choreography, dancing, costumes, top class girls, well lighted sets, clean backgrounds, and great performances, I feel that each girl is performing for me personally, not for a camera.

As I am typing right now, Alexa Tomas is entertaining me in the lower corner of my computer screen. She is making eye contact with me. She is teasing me by licking her fingers then rubbing her pussy. She is playing with me. But the iStripper "way" and "style" is this: SHE IS PERFORMING FOR ME. It is as if no one else is here to enjoy her but me. When The Red Fox is on the table and sharing a steamy, erotic, exciting masturbation and orgasm scene with me, I feel like she is not just performing for me, I feel like she is ready to jump through my computer screen and make love to me. That is what the iStripper "way" and "style" do that no other porn production can do. The iStripper "style" and "way" makes the entire performance a personal, interactive experience.

I buy XXX cards because I want XXX scenes. Lots of them. More of them. More explicit. More anal. Deeper. But, I still want it done the iStripper "style" where I feel she is an entertainer, and she is still performing for me, and only me.

If XXX cards had fewer XXX scenes, I would feel cheated.

The iStripper "way" is great. It's fantastic. It offers something no other medium offers. It would be a shame to restrict its use to only one type of performance.

The old format was good as it was. The only thing I would improve is the sound, because in some cards you can barely hear the model and in others it is so loud you have to tune down the speakers.

The new format needs more explicit clips on the table. The New XXX rated format is for me almost exact like the normal iStripper format, for me it's iStripperXXXlight. There should be longer or more explicit clips.

For Striptease & Dancing I the normal iStripper cards are great. But for me Dancing Clips don't interest me in XXX Rated Cards. I buy the XXX cards for explicit Content.

"I don't like XXX cards so I like new XXX format, because I can buy more cards". Awesome.

Can we block people that don't buy the product from deciding how the product should look like?
Else it's voting XXX ver no XXX, not new XXX ver old XXX.

Yeh, I'm agree at some point with you but not entirely. because I dont wish others experience the same emotion/feeling I experienced last couple days, and for that in the future I hope the software will stay the same for these customers for eternity aslong totem entertainment produce desktop software. but one problem here, Voting = Freedom and Totem Entertainment wants these voting as Feedback, aswell from peeple that buying no more card products, look Totem Entertainment use these kind of Votings/Feedback to decide wich New Content they can offer... to keep the software fun to use for all of us, if they start to block peeple.. How will these peeple get a proper chance to make a come-back to the software, maybe the software are changed by then because of peeple that are Not Blocked and makes peeple buy new cards again but why peeple that takes a break in buying products have less rights in your point of view, little bit unfriendly towards your fellow-customers I must say.