Lauren Crist - Faerie *****
Abigaile Johnson - Afternoon Snack/Words of Love
Tess Lyndon - Good vibrations
Goldie - Golden Dream

Please?;)

Sandra Sanchez & Deny

Only 5? :(

Well here goes:
Baby Nicole
Ally Style
Sarka
Coxy
Alyssia

@Cartref: the ladder rules were changed in order to keep the posting limited, but I think polls like this one are a completely different thing (perhaps I'm wrong?).

I don't think this kind of poll will attrack as much posts/votes as the ladder competition, just as the old 'best boobs' and 'best ass' poll didn't attract that much votes (200 max. i think and they are history now).

At any rate there wasn't any agreement of the 'one competition at a time' kind, only that the ladder should be held under control. This current poll will be faded out of the top 50 in 3 weeks time tops I reckon.

@MrBeeKeeper: thanks for letting me know you don't like my posts, but honestly if everyone has to go posting in threads that they don't like the thread, where will it all end? It's not really the positive attitude we need I think. If I'd want to play that game I could say that the ladder and the polls have much more relevance to the Totem product than the 'latest inventions' thread.. But I'll not join the mud-throwing.

Marta, her face wins it for me, very luscious & seductive

Marta 5
Vicky S 4

MASK.. I'm *****...
It is nothing more than an image with some Transparency. Normal at the top part of the image.

A sprite just like any other that you ADD last. It will be ON top of all the other images.

So where it is Not Transparent, it Covers over the other Images.
(MASKS them from view )

So in our Stage examples..
To Create the reflections.
we have a 2nd copy of the Clip rotated 180 degrees around the X axis. Flipped upside down. at a lower opacity.

but we don't want this to be shown on the Front part of the Stage.. Just on the Floor.

So you Make a 2nd image of the Stage.
Cut out the Top of the Image.
Cut out the Floor
Leave only the Front of the Stage.

When you Add that as the Last Sprite.
It is On top of all the other sprites
and makes it look as if the reflections stop at the end of the stage floor.

an illusion.. it's Not really a MASK. Just a Cover up.
but then , that is what a mask is..

So hope that helps demystify the MASK..

Here are two images.
Stage with a floor
and then same image but Just the front of the Stage.

Put the Floor in First.
Add reflections and Shadows
Add Normal Models
Add front of Stage - to act as the Mask.

"Reflections were never an issue before VG started having Full Screen."

The Normal Desktop Video Player Dose not Have any reflections at all.
you only see One Instance of the Model on screen.

With Full Screen. You Do not Need to have a 2nd instance, but it adds to the Scene to simulate a reflection or Shadow.

Reflection is Not true reflection on the Surface of shiny floor..
There is no Shiny floor. Only an illusion of one.

It is simulated reflection by rotating the same image around the Hotspot.
On a pole clip that is the Bottom center of the pole.
(** some pole clips it is slightly higher than the bottom of the pole)

So anything the goes LOWER then the bottom of the pole ( like when the model in front of pole )
it will be Higher than the bottom of the pole when rotated around the bottom center of the pole.

So What can be done??

Create the Reflection First, then add the normal Clip 2nd.
Remember that as you add sprites, the last one is ON TOP of the previous.

So now the normal Clip will be Over top of the reflection.
and with the Opacity set lower, you won't notice it quite as much.

Ahh HA!.. I must plan the Order of how to Add my Sprites...

Create reflection and Shadows first
then add the normal clipSprite so it is On top of them.

** with New Filming. The Camera is Not Looking Straight On to the model.
it is looking Slightly Down at the Model.
So to Put Her Feet on the Task bar. an slight height adjustment is built into the clip when it's encoded. But when she walks around the pole.. now her Feet are in front of the taskbar.
this is due to the Camera Angle during Filming. It can't be avoided.
and this is why some pole clips, the hotspot is slightly higher then the bottom of the pole.
So now when rotated for a reflection, it looks like the "pole climbs up itself."

add the reflection First, then ass the normal Clip 2nd to fix this.. {/b]

of course everything I'm telling you is just speculation on my part, plus what I've been able to figure out from trial and error.
I've not really got any more information that what you have, some good comments in the first scene files from Totem.
and my experience with OTHER 3D graphics software.

Marta

Marta 4
Vicky S 4

Obviously I will vote for my nomination, Marta :-)

Marta - 3

Vicky - 4

Choose 5 each.

Here's mine.

1335 - Carla Cox / Sexy Thigh Highs
1344- Miyuki Son / Cutting Edge Fashion
1016 - Marjana / Black Velvet
1254 - Melissa K / Cocktail Girl
801 - Baby Nicole / Final *****

Vicky

Marta 2

Vicky S 4

Vicky S

Marta 2
Vicky S 3

again Vicky S

Marta 2

Vicky S 2

Vicky S

Marta 2
Vicky S 1



@Rule 5b: I second the idea of MattBFreq3 to limit this rule to a given amount of time (like 3 challenges in 3 months, if a 3rd challenge starts later than 3 months after the first challenge, it will be counted as the 2nd - except the challenge no 2 was also more than 3 months ago) Time limit of 3 months is, however, just an example...
Sry for the circuitous explanation ;)

Marta

Marta 2
Vicky S 0

yes!! Marta!! Marta is at least in my top 20 of all girls! She even might be in top 10!
Marta is a girl who i call sexy DEVIL (cant think of any other girls who i can call devil as well)So Marta is unique! I cant say i love her, its different feeling ... i have so many dirty fantasies about her ... girls like Marta were the reason i joined VG. so no doubt Marta!

Marta

Marta 1
Vicky S 0

Marta vs Vicky S starts now

12:00 P.M. Central European Sumer Time (Paris Time Zone)

Just an observation,

It was agreed with the founder of the VG competition ladder, that the competitions had gotten out of control and that self restraint was in order.

Case in point, by my memory it was one competition at a time.

So unless I need to be corrected, this competition should NOT be being run at this time?

Am I in need of correction?

If I hear nothing to the contrary, then this competition will be shut down until the convenors decide which competition they want to run.

Here's some pics of what I'm talking about. I increased the reflection opacity to 0.6 so you could see the reflections easier. When the model gets in front of the Pole, her reflection overlays onto her. I've triple-checked that the model's Y-axis and Reflection's Y-axis values are the same. The only thing I can think of is it is a problem with using the bottom of the pole as a "set point", or I've still got something messed up mask-wise.

If you click on the pictures you will get a full size view, and you can see that the bottom of the poles also seem to have part of their own reflection crawling back up them. And that just adds to my *****, because the Poles aren't even moving.

@Wyldanimal: I totally understand the z-level "layering" concept vs the "distance away from something" concept for the Camera position. That hasn't been the difficulty I've run into creating Scenes.

But after some serious brain-draining, I *think* I have discovered the/a problem with the coordinate system used in the 3D Scenes, and it *seems* to be the reason I have been having trouble comprehending the model reflections and "masks" issue. Bear with me and I'll explain it, and if I'm out in left field yet, I'll humbly crawl back in my cave.

OK, in another thread you said the following about positioning a model in a scene:

"For pole clips, the BOTTOM CENTER OF THE POLE is used.
For all other clips the the BOTTOM CENTER OF THE BOUNDING BOX is used.
For Swing clips It's the Top center of the clip"

Now, for 2D Camera scenes, none of the above causes a problem.

And, for any 3D scene that DENIES ALL POLE CLIPS, it seems to work fine.

But for a 3D scene WITH a Pole clip, the model can walk IN FRONT of the bottom of the pole. But I must use either the Bottom of the Bounding Box or the Bottom of the Pole to position the model...and they are the SAME Y-axis value regardless of which one I use to "set" the Y-axis "up/down" vertical screen position for the model AND the model's REFLECTION. The model and her Reflection Y-axis value will BOTH be the same in the .scn file. And those numbers work fine for the model's Reflection...UNTIL the model's feet come towards me PAST the bottom of the pole. Then it appears the Reflection doesn't come "forward" with her feet because the "top" of the Reflection still "stays" at the bottom of the Pole (which is the same as the Bottom of a Bounding Box). The shadow actually starts climbing up her shoe and possibly even her lower legs the farther in front of the pole she gets. Now, if there is a way to use a "mask" to prevent this, I haven't been able to figure it out.

Reflections were never an issue before VG started having Full Screen. It didn't matter if a model walked in front of a pole. But with the 3D Scene now, setting a position of a model using the Bottom of the Pole doesn't seem to be working for Pole clips and Reflections. A model can't "walk out of" the Bottom of a Bounding Box, but she can "walk out in front of" the Bottom of the Pole. But her Reflection won't "come forward" with her. It appears it still has to "start" at the bottom of the Pole boundary.

Did any of that make sense? Like I said, if I'm just totally missing something yet, I apologize. But even with the new "masks" that StarryK made for my 3D multiple Pole scenes, when the model walks out in front of the pole her Reflection crawls up HER starting at her feet. And it even happens on some of the non-pole standing clips, but only when the model "lays down" on the floor from a standing position. She will be horizontal on the floor, and her Reflection will cover the lower half of her body until she "gets back up" again.

@Member ... You're right, I'm not going to vote. And that's because voting just for fun doesn't lead anywhere, imho. It's just about gaming and nothing more.

If my vote, means personal opinion, will mean something for the product - to improve it perhaps ... more duo cards or wider range of models - I'll give my vote at any time.

This previous post of mine was meant for you to know that not everyone here likes all these never-ending polls and ladders, even if they seem to be harmless ... cluttering the front page.

Thanks for listening my opinion and have a success with this one };-)

On the question of editing posts, no one except a team member or mod have been allowed to update or edit their posts after someone else has posted after them.

This was done a number of years ago as a result of certain activities being done in what I call the flame wars.

People would make derogatory comments about another member or on some controversial issue, deliberately evoking a ***** response from another member, then go back and change their original post to make it look like the other member was the one starting the fight.

Those "nice" individual were caught and dealt with and functionality changed to prevent this happening again.

91hebasu was referring to the very disagreeable process where some people engineer posts to their topics to take them to the top of the hot list.

Personally I don't see why anyone would be that moronic to do that, but without a doubt some do.

People might ask, what does it matter, well apart from feeding personal ego, it also clutters up the recent posts and genuine hot topics so other people miss posts that they would otherwise have seen.

Maybe a little wordy explanation on my part, but it is one of the things that annoy members and its against the spirit of the T & C's and creates work to monitor & police it.

So generally speaking its NOT good behaviour and can have consequences.

Personally I would take 91hebasu's suggestion to heart one and all.

... are there now 49 places on the ladder? Abigaile losing drops her off,.. which would/could mean, new challenger Marta, is at # 50 , even with a loss?

Toggle Log button only shows up If there is something in your Scene that doesn't work properly. There is an Error in the Scene.

If you Click on the button, you will see some sort of message..
You might not understand the message, but it is telling you what caused the error.

If you think of your Scene as a Flat Piece of Poster board.
And you Glue On all the Different Sprites one at a time..
Each New Sprite Will Cover the Previous one, if they share the same location.
the very Last Sprite you paste onto the board. Will be the Top most sprite..

that is what I refer to as Z level.. and it should not Be ***** with a 3D camera's Z depth.

they are two Different things..

Z depth is how far or close to the Camera's field of view the sprite is. ( so it affects the apparent Size of the sprite.)

Z level is the Order of How the sprites are added to the Scene.
with the Next one Being On top of and hiding the Previous ones.

@MrBeeKeeper: this poll is just a harmless bit of fun where you can vote on the best duo with the only criterium being your own personal view/taste, but of course you don't have to vote or even post in this poll if you don't like the idea.

@92hebasu: I'm not sure I follow, but if people's posts are posted multiple times by some site error I hope it will be discussed with the team/site builder. And if so, please ask them to bring back the 'edit/remove' buttons in this thread, somehow they've disappeared.
Thanks! [Note: for some reason I could edit this particular post again!]

@MattBFreq3: I hope your challenger gets on the ladder a bit further :)
As for the new rule: perhaps you're right about the dropping 10 spots but I'm not convinced yet.We can always change it since hopefully it won't happen too often.

Here in English:

It is possible for the following:

• activated automatic download the trailers
• update the card when deleted some clips
• download in higher resolution (1080p)
• downloading and playing demo clips (trailers)

###

Hier mehr in deutsch - Here more in German


Es sind folgende Ereignisse moeglich:

• aktivierter Download für die Trailers (Demos)
• Update der Karte, wenn einige Clips geloescht worden sind
• Download in hoeherer Aufloesung (1080p)
• Download und Abspielung der Demo-Clips im Karussell

Zu 1), 3) und auch 4)
Einstellungen - Erweitert - Downloads
File-Sharing am besten abschalten, da sonst vorhandene Demo-Clips von deinem Rechner abgerufen werden koennen.

Zu 4)
Im Tab "Demos" nicht auf "mehr Girls" klicken (File-Sharing) - es reichen auch die fuenf Girls aus, die man für ein Ticket kaufen kann.

Zu 2)
Im Tab "Meine Sammlung" kann man, wenn eine Karte angeklickt worden ist, unterhalb des Bildes auf den Muelleimer klicken.
Mit der linken Maustaste löscht du die Karte.
Mit der rechten Maustaste öfnnet sich ein kleines Menue.

Ein Eintrag darin ist "Auf Updates pruefen", mit dem moeglicherweise auch die geloeschten Clips wieder gedownloaded werden (bin mir aber nicht sicher).


Noch ein Hinweis zur Auflösung der Karten:
Auf der Webseite wird immer nur die Angabe für die Aufloesung mit 720p angegeben (Classics 480p).

Beispiel Karte a1315 - Little Caprice - Stunner
720p Aufloesung: 541 MB (und 15 MB Demo-Clips)
1080p Aufloesung: 802 MB (und 22 MB Demo-Clips)


Bitte entschuldige die Schreibweise - bevor die deutschen Buchstaben ganz fehlen sollten.

Ich hoffe ich konnte dir weiterhelfen.
Spiderman1804

Seem to be getting some multiple posts in several threads lately. That one three times.

Extras cleared out.



Btw,
Would prefer that it doesn't get posted again just to have it at the top of the next page. Thank you.

Outstanding! Now I understand. I misunderstood Wyldanimal's explanation. I didn't think the order of the sprite and clip sprite entries in the .scn file was critical. I thought all "layering" and "image" or "graphic" positioning was strictly controlled by the x/y/z parameters in those entries. That's why you may notice I had some of the different "z-level" parameters set at like 18, 19, 20, and 21, etc. I was trying to "fudge" reflection masks by z-layering different things using the z-axis parameters for them. DUH!

And I never knew why I was getting the extra "Toggle Log" button showing up. Makes perfect sense now.

Thanks!

ADD FOR EVERYONE ELSE: If you downloaded my two .scn files, you'll notice I (think) I left copies of BOTH the "Table and Chairs" and "Chairs Only" front .png files in them. I did that because sometimes I like to use those images when running the scenes. So I would leave the entry in the .scn file that would use them if I wanted to, and "control" whether they were being used by renaming the files in the folder with a "temp" extension, like "plan1.png.TEMP". With that extension the ,scn file would not use them. But as StarryK said (and I now understand), that will give you the extra "Toggle Log" button under the Preview screen in the GUI. As far as I can tell, it won't affect how well the Full Screen plays the scene. It allows you to open a small window that says, "Hey Dummy, I can't FIND the .png pictures for the table and chairs in the folder! Are you sure you are a software programmer?" 8-)

Jenna Sweet & Amandine for me...theyre gorgeous girls and their show is good as they look very comfortable together :-)

@FalconAF: Well Wyldanimal explained it best.
All images line up on top of each other hiding what they cover of the previous images.
the farther down a sprite or clip sprite is defined in the scene file the higher it is.
so the last sprite or clip sprite defined in the scn file is the one that is the topmost layer.
Thats why i moved the definition of floor and center stage down in the scn file so thate they would be over the models and their reflections hiding the parts of the reflection that are not on the stages.
So yes for your scene there are 2 masks now. and by renaming the plan0 you made it that the topmost image can't be found by VG. it would be better to remove the part from the scn file as you will now get an error noticable by the extra button appearing on the preview called 'Toggle Log'

Edit: I quickly made up this image to explain how the different images work together.
I give 2 different possibilities to line the sample images up and show what the result would be. Def1 and def 2 are scn files with the different elements defined in the order of my example. I really hope this helps to understand the concept.
If Image 1 would be defined last in the scn file you would only see a red box.
The model would be completely hidden and also the blue box.

@readyforanything see Bella's all tattoes in my post from 330 days ago

A beautiful picture from a beautiful duo

My vote Eve and Monica

My vote Carie and Misa

@StarryK,

Thanks!

On the 3 model one, I didn't know how to change the mask to keep the reflections on the stage only, but discovered by accident that if I left them "on" it would produce the illusion of a "clear" platform area around the stage that reflected the model walking on/off the screen when she wasn't on the stage, or when she had a foot slightly off the stage (a few model cards like Jenni Gregg will "wander around" left and right in their clips and step off the stage with standing and pole clips).

I remember changing the opacity to 0.0 on the 5 model file because ALL the reflections did what you said...they extended all the way to the bottom of the screen. I didn't know how to fix that, so I just "turned them off" with the 0.0 setting. I was trying to get the 2 rear platform reflections to stay on their platforms, and the 3 front stage ones to do what they do in the 3 model file...keep extending "off the front stage, but could never figure out how to do it. So when I turned them all off, the 3 front models would enter/exit the front stage by walking in mid-air off the stage. That's why I left the left and right chair PNG activated in the .scn file to hide that.

Is there a way to keep the rear platform reflections on their own platforms, while still allowing the front stage reflections to extend "off the stage" to keep that "clear extended stage" effect around the front stage? EDIT: I found out that if I just rename the "plan0.png" file to "plan0.png.TEMP" it works.

The reflection masks still ***** me a bit. I'm thinking there are TWO separate reflection masks in the 5 Model scene now...1 of them is part of the "Floor" .png file..."plan3.png" (?) for the 2 rear platforms (or it is just the "Floor" .png file itself blocking the platform reflections from extending downward off the platforms?), and the other is at the front of the Front Stage (the "plan0.png" file) to keep those 3 model's reflections on the Front Stage?

Still learning!

thanx @MattBFreq3 for posting the next challenger

next challenge will be

Marta vs. Vicky S

starts tomorrow at 12:00 pm paris time, about 15 1/4 hours from now.

shame you cant edit anymore :-(

"she booted out 8 different challengers in 2 weeks"

it should have read:

"8 challengers fell off the ladder in 2 weeks and Abigale took out 5 of them"

Sorry

"The best" according to which criteria, may I ask?

Best looking ... or by performance ... or boobs or bum's size ... or hair color perhaps?

I'd like to know, because there isn't such a thing as "the best" for me, when it comes to models. Each of them is equally the best in its very own way. But as always, there are just some favorites... for each of us.

So all the thing here boils down to different personal tastes and preferences, right?

And what honor will the winners get ... ? Nothing, I guess.

Seems just couple of new "ladders" are starting here.

Well, I was pipped to the post last time by member84392371 by his last minute vote and him choosing Abigaile on behalf of RMNS45 as the next challenger, so this time im glad to be able to put forward the fantastic (IMO) and curvaceous Marta as the next challenger! I hope she will at least get off the starting blocks! :-)

I do have to say as well, although Abigaile is a nice girl and I did vote for her once against Angie Line, she did start to annoy me too as she booted out 8 different challengers in 2 weeks, some of whom were favorites of mine, which is a bit much to be honest.

@member84392371 Maybe you shouldn't have pipped me to the post then we wouldn't have been in all this mess with no one getting past Abigaile ;-) lol


I don't know whether rule 5b is a bit harsh as well, I don't know how anyone else feels about this rule, but dropping 10 places on the ladder may be better than dropping off all together?
Or maybe if the 3 challenges with the same girls all happen within a month or 2 months of each other, the loser drops off the ladder? You'd be able to keep track of the challenges that way as im sure its possible for challengers to meet 3 times within a year and would be harder to keep track of those challenges.

...opps... there she goes! ( Abigaile Johnson )

( whew ) ... would just ***** it , if Vicky fell off the ladder...

I voted against Abigaile all times .. really wanted her to lose .. but somehow when she is out of the ladder i am feeling ... SAD? lol .. wth:)

@Spaveinvader: thanks for posting the result.

Abigaile Johnson falls off the ladder (rule 5a).
Also, I've decide to put the 3rd same challenge rule into effect, partly to prevent challenges repeating over and over.

Rules of the vghd ladder competition
1 A ladder is formed by – active VGHD only - girls challenging each other daily from 12:00 to 12:00 Paris (lunch)time. Votes before the starting or after the ending time do not count.
1a The maximum number of girls on the ladder is 50. If a new challenger challenges position number 50 and loses, she falls off the ladder and can’t return on it.
2a Votes can be posted for either one of the two girls that are challenging each other. A person can only cast 1 vote per challenge. Votes should be posted specifically mentioning the girl voted for ánd the new score in the current challenge for both girls, like so:

“I Vote for
x votes
y votes”
2b If a person’s vote is not clear to the rest of the voters it will not count, if there’s discussion on this point member84392371 or JayZ971 decide.
3 A challenge ends when 15 votes are cast for a girl ór the challenge reaches the allotted end-time, which is 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.
3a An exception to the 15-vote win is a challenge started by a girl who's already on the ladder, she only needs 10 votes in her first challenge. The person who proposed this challenger is automatically assumed to have voted for that girl at the start of this particular race-to-10 challenge. If the challenger wins she needs the regular 15 in each next challenge of her winning streak. BUT if she loses this first challenge (race to 10) she drops 10 spots on the ladder! If she’s on position 41-49 she drops to the bottom of the ladder, bumping girl no.50 (if there is one) off.
3b An exception to the 12:00 to 12:00 Paris time challenge duration is when a new challenger is picked more than 12 hours after the previous challenge time ended (so after 00:00 Paris time) ánd the challenge is not won at 12:00 Paris time (the normal end time), in which case the challenge runs for another day until 12:00 Paris (lunch)time.

4 If the challenger wins, she automatically challenges the next higher girl.
If the challenger loses (the other girl has more or equal votes), the last person to legally vote picks a new challenger. He/she will still have to vote during the new challenge.
4a A challenger that is already on the ladder can be chosen to challenge the girl that is 1 position higher on the ladder (see also rule 3a).
4b A challenger who is not already on the ladder will challenge the girl on the lowest position of the ladder.
4c If the last person that cast a legal vote fails to propose a challenger within 1 day (ie 12:00 Paris time after the last challenge), one is picked by member84392371 or JayZ971.

5a If a girl loses a challenge with 0 votes she falls off the ladder for good! The same goes for a girl that lost while on the 50th spot of the ladder.
5b If 2 girls meet in a challenge for the third time, the loser drops off the ladder for good!
5c A girl that was kicked off the ladder cannot return on it

6 In case of doubt about voting, the ladder, who gets to pick a challenger, who won a challenge etc., member84392371 or JayZ971 decide.
The rules can be adjusted/changed if needed by member84392371 by himself or through discussion/suggestions in the thread.
If you have a question or complaint send a pm to member84392371 or JayZ971.

Vicky S wins by 10-9

i'm not sure if Abigaile Johnson is knocked off the ladder or stays on the 50th place.

time for a new challenger.
MattBFreq3 - you have to choose a new challenger or a girl from the current ladder as you are the last legal voter!

My top 3

1 Jenna Sweet & Amandine (winner by a huge margin)
2 Nikky Case & Mina
3 Vicky S & Eufrat

My top 3:

1 Bernadette & Nikky Case
2 Ariel & Trisha
3 Carmen Gemini & Cabiria

Aletta Ocean&Mandy Dee for me, because I love Christmas gifts with big boobs !