Thanks new version loaded. When attempting to use main dialog to produce showid VPL I had no filters checked or enabled and include demos/IT enabled which in Favorite toolbox indicated no change in the number of clips yet it still produced a clips version of VPL.

I am okay with using Favorite toolbox to produce Showid lists.

Thanks Starryk.

if you use the main dialog and start button it will apply the filters to your list and then it will indeed remove transitions and demos so it won't be the full show anymore.

I fixed the problem with the clipinfo dialog btw.
New build time is 20:00 CET
Same links as before

About the clip timer there are some shows where VG just gives the wrong duration. in this cases the calculation must be off by far. your example might be one of these cases.

The toolbox worked perfectly thanks. So only the toolbox can be used to produce show format and main dialog for created clips format?

The timer calculation seems really out of wack. For example A0766_66402.vghd calulated as 5:04 but V4 states 3:43.

@JeB1952: nope he doesn't have to do that. Just load a plf into the toolbox then use save playlist without setting any of these checkboxes.
It will work!

Save VPL show or clips. Just my opinion but I do not feel that inclusion of demo and IT clips should be part of the 100% calculation. To produce a show playlist users must remember to enable create playlist only, enable include demos and include transition clips. Feels excessive for conversion of plf to vpl.

When V4 plays a show VPL it should look at settings for include demos and small mode for playing transition clips.

I have been unsuccessful at saving a show format VPL. Even with all options enabled.

There is some problem with clipinfo. I see timer but no other information or picture.
To create problem. PLM is started when V4 is enabled in my case playing 3 small shows.
Start plm and clipinfo shows nothing.
Disable V4/Enable V4 and now Clipinfo looks normal.

The VPL clipmode order seems to work well. I did bring V4 to its knees loading the Virtuagirl/iStripper list to its knees loading a large VPL.

FYI. Clipinfo isn't refreshing when clip 1 in a 3 girl small show changes.
No timer showing in clipinfo for vg show.

***** stuff

Comment on the labels of V 2.10

I haven't started renaming the Products yet (VG Interactive to iStripper / Deskbabes Interactive to iStripper XXX)
I will do that once iStripper has its official release.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great support and creativity Starryk.

Pre-Release of VG PlaylistManager Version 2.10.1

I am done with the coding.
For now i solved the problem with the vpl lists and the Shows.

I still have to do some more work for a full release including the adjustment of the webpage and the manual and so on.
However i wanted to give you the chance to use and test the new version now.
The last release here was V 2.9.5 so lets give you an update on the new stuff since then.

V 2.9.6
Fix: Only include Shows that are present in the Models directory.
Feature: Show Tooltip with the Name of the Show and the Model in the Toolbox on ClipView and the Model Name on Show View

V2.9.7: For playmode Model_Slideshow only select clips that are longer than 1 minute.

V2.9.8
Feature: Support SmallMode with one girl controlled by PLM and the others by VG

V2.9.9
Feature: New Startup Status dialog to tell you what PLM is doing while starting up.
Switch to Java 7 with compliance to Java 6: You should at least use a Java 7 JRE now but it should also work with Java 6 JRE still

V 2.10.X
Feature: Support for the Models.lst of iStripper Alpha Version, Models.lst for the current released Version 1.2.0.84 is still supported as well
Feature: Support of the new iStripper playlist Format (.vpl)

• read iStripper playlists
• write iStripper playlists

Feature: Create playlist files with the playmodes
The Playmode determines the order of the clips in the playlist file. This works with the Advanced Option Only build Playlist(but don't play it right now)
Feature: Card pic chosen from the available ones in the shows folder
If the shows folder contains a file that ends with _custom.jpg this one is used
Else it takes the showid.jpg and if thats not available the showidc.jpg
If none is present it takes the default card pic from the basic skin.

For now i only replaced the jar file download so if you want to try it downlad it and replace the jar file in the vgPlaylistManager folder
www.kp3d.com/archives/VGPlaylistManager210Jar.zip
If you are new to this Program download version 2.9.5 from the website and then replace the vghd.jar file with the one from the link above www.kp3d.com/vgmanager.html

Explanation on vpl-Files:
Should a show be stored as a show or as a list of clips?
I decided to do it in the following way to allow you to convert VG Playlists (.plf) into corresponding iStripper playlists (.vpl)
If all clips of a show are contained in the playlist that is to be saved it will be saved as show.
Otherwise the clips will be saved.
This way if you load a plf file into PLM you get all clips of that show including demos and transition clips.
If you then save this playlist without modifying it as an vpl File, it will recognize that all clips of that show are contained and just write the shows id into the the vpl file.
If even one clips is missing it will write each clip into the vpl file.
Problem with sort order: If you create an iStripper Playlist in iStripper that contains shows and clips then load it into PLM and save it again without appending to the existing file the sort order will be lost. It will first write all clips into the file and then all shows. If you append to an iStripper playlist however the sort order will not be changed. Same goes for iStripper playlists that only contain clips or only contain shows. Then the sort order will be retained. This is a compromise between user convenience and coding effort. You have to live with it!

Tip of the day: Try to create a playlist with a playmode by checking the box for Only build Playlist(but don't play it right now)
A good playmode would be cliptype ph. Load a playlist that contains a few shows. Save the new playlist as vpl file.
Load it into iStripper On Stage tab
Set the number of girls to at least 2 and activate
Then the girls will each play one of the shows in the cliptype_ph (progressive hotness) order just as if PLM would control all of them.😎

Thanks for the info @Wyldanimal

I would have forgotten about this card stuff if i hadn't witnessed it yesterday when i played a card with PLM that i downloaded with iStripper.
It didn't show any card image and i remembered and implemented the new logic.

Bonnie is pretty much retired she has a family now check her twitter.
That's why i'm really glad we got Skin and was hoping to see more of her because she heading in the same direction.

Alexa Tomas, Sapphira A and Tania R more please :)
When he comes back the Playful ***** and Tea? please

Problem with duos is with the audience maybe more than the models.
For the viewer ~ girls getting absorbed with each other can make viewer feel left out.
Maybe good for voyeurs more than general population methinks.
This is why I voted no, not because of Art/Chemistry as such..(which I adore) butmore because to satisfy market for solo POV orgasm & future Totem income. When market changes, can go back to expensive duos.

Why should Totem spend so much money in their XXX section just so peeps can warm-up then go spend money elsewhere to cum together with a fantasy lady..doesn't make sense to me. Keep them here I say . I would pay double for double the amount of clips and only one card per model.

@szalka absolutely. We can only wish :-)
If Blue Angel still working Totem could name their price per card !

I agree with you guys.

I think it is important for the chemistry, mutual trust. This mainly happens when girls are experienced with people who know each other, they speak same language (f.e. it dosen't matter if Czech, Hungarian, Spanish, if be in chemistry), included in the movie is already common, they know what's good for others, they know where and how reach, if they perhaps even friends too ...

There is, for example Aliz & ***** Cat; Aliz & Antonia; Eve Angel & Monica Sweet, Lola & Bailey duos and more. You can feel the passion of these chemicals on the show. But it could list good examples. If the new dous such passionate, if these full of ideas, I think the Members will be spend slightly more for these shows and me too.

Another thing: @Hombre
You're right, now many fiery Spanish girl were among the new models. I would like to take this opportunity Nekane, Alexa, if when returning to Lorena, or others, hmmm .... what duos or trios to come out with them ...

I agree @Everthang Forever
Besides these could come back several old favorites, such as Eve Angel; Blue Angel; Eufrat; Peaches (she was Phoebe in VG2); Misa; Sandy; Goldie and Liza
Not a bad list right?

Cards not showing up is Because Totem has changed the default name of the card.
It is no Longer exxxxC.jpg
it is now exxxx.jpg with no C in the name.

same for fxxxxC.jpg has changed to fxxxx.jpg

the new i collection will be ixxxx.jpg

Members with a Custome card colletion will have to re-name their custome cards.
A custom card will have the name exxxx_custom.jpg
So you will have to test for these first, to make sure you display the New Custom cards.

older series a,b,c,d still will have the C.jpg in the default card names
New series e,f,i will NOT have the C.jpg in the card name

Also, the New e,f,i card images will no longer have the product sticker on them.
The New GUI, automatically overlays the Sticker, based on the Card ID.

e,f,i series cards
For Compatibility with 1.2.0.84 and older versions...
Most cards have TWO card images. the Older exxxxC.jpg and the new exxxx.jpg

HA ha ha. Thought you might get a chuckle out of my post. Hoping to raise the discussion.

Adding reading VPL is great and I would just tend to stay at this point until the dust settles with what V4 is going to do.

PLM has never ventured into this area of producing something that VG/V4 also produces. I really don't need it but getting a playlist that filters all the cliptypes that I don't want to see is a very attractive idea. That is until I forget that PLM produced it and I use V4 to save it. Everything is now lost.

Looking forward to using what you have todate. I have been having issues with clipinfo not displaying the card picture. This has gotten worse with V4 but was beginning to happen with .84 as well. The timer is displaying but no picture. Seemed to be more of an issue with Virtuagirl/Deskbabes Interactive cards. I bring it up in case you found something with the V4 updates that explains it and is resolved with your updates.

I hope you are enjoying the new challenge for your program.

Anya Ivy - Red Saloon

Yes, the butterfly is come out her chrysalis.

@JeB1952: Thanks for your feedback but Yes you did indeed add to the *****.:-)

I have no plans for adding an ability to write plf files with PLM not now as it seems that plf will be gone. If however they really use it to save the status of the collection (active cards) again then this might change.

Favorite toolbox. Save Playlist button
F1: Clips view = save in clips format using either JPL or now VPL
F2: Show view = save in show format using PLF or VPL
F3: Model view = save in show format using PLF or VPL

Hm that would be an idea but PLM will also have the show in the show view if it in fact contains only 1 clip of that show. To put the whole show into the playlist then seems inappropriate to me.
On the other hand it would be a clear rule. but it would also require some behaviour change on my part as i never switch to the clip view before i save a playlist.

Bonnie is quite the wild one
😛

Wow, exciting news. I can't wait to be able to load a VPL list into PLM. Quite the dilemma regarding clips but I will take a stab at my feedback.
I looked at the reason I use PLM which is to provide additional cliptype filtering and more play modes than VG/V4. PLM continues to provide this function. PLM has never saved in VG PLF playlist format (at least I have never been able to do so).

Playlist input
PLF = Shows converted to clips
JPL = clips remains as clips
VPL = Shows+ clips convert to clips

Will put a code in front to help with feedback of others.

Playlist output:
Mail dialog
M1: JPL = clips same as before. (see below if PLM aware of chosen extension desired)

Favorite toolbox. Save Playlist button
F1: Clips view = save in clips format using either JPL or now VPL
F2: Show view = save in show format using PLF or VPL
F3: Model view = save in show format using PLF or VPL

If PLM can be aware of the chosen extension as set by the user then I would suggest using this to determine the users wishes.

E1: playlist.PLF = original Active Show (or for now FAVORITE:card#) show format until Active cards is supported

E2: playlist.JPL = clips same as before and used only by PLM.

E3: playlist.VPL = I really like the idea of clips in playmode order, if 100% clips of show then show saved in place of clips. I believe this rarely occurs based on the reason I use PLM to filter cliptypes Pole, cage, swing. My playlist are never 100% of show

Not knowing how Totem will provide Active cards playlist implementation via PLF or VPL leaves things hanging. My guess is that PLF and save PLF from my Collection is very likely and will save shows only.
VPL will likely only be used for On Stage/Playlists tab and will load Shows from PLF or shows and clips from VPL.

I think it is great that PLM is going to be able to read/load VPL but I think it is a moving target to create VPL but since V4 now understands the clips I really like the playmode order of clips and forget shows all together.

So many possibilities thanks to Starryk's skill. A PLM version that allows me to read V4 VPL playlists into PLM is 100% win for me and allows me to create my manual playlist in V4 VPL format.

I hope I have added to the *****. Just kidding

I finished coding for today
I can now load and save the new iStripper playlists (.vpl)
As iStripper reverses the order of the clips when it comes to playing a playlist i also do this when i load or save a iStripper playlist.
One thing that i want to do tomorrow is to use the playmodes to create playlists for iStripper.
You already have the option to just create a playlist without playing it.
but then the order of the clips in the playlist is just random. In this case i want to use the playmodes to create the correct order for that playmode for example cliptype_ph.(makes little sense for the random playmode) Then if you load the file into iStripper it will play that playlist just like PLM would.
This way i can do with iStripper what PLM can't do on its own. control multiple girls on the stage.
If i have 2 shows sorted for cliptype_ph on a playlist iStripper will give one show to one girls and the other show to another girl so they can play simultaneously. and that also goes for 5 shows and 5 girls or 10 shows and 10 girls😎

Please give me your opinion on the following

VPLs can contain shows and clips.
Question is if PLM should save shows into the vpl too.
For now only the clips will be saved. So if you load a vpl that contains shows and then save it again these shows will have been splitted into clips.
[list=a]

If PLM should save shows the next question is when should the show be saved and when the clips?

If you have a playlist with all full show clips of a show should then the show be saved?

iStripper would then also play transitions and demos that were not on the playlist..
So i get back onto coding so that i can at least write clip playlists in vpl-Format.
Then i have to think that through.
But I would also like your opinion!

I think i will at first release a version that only saves clips in the iStripper playlists until i got enough feedback and had some time to find a working solution. That version should be available tomorrow.

as for me i want or like to see bonnie rotten come to i-stripper. 😄

I think the concept of Deskbabes is cute but out of date.
It will be labelled in the iStripper version as Extreme or XXX, but is it ?
A mild transition to penetrative sex from iStripper 'VGstyle' might appeal to current members however it is a bit like a raking of old gravel marketwise.
New users may have a look but I think they will invariably revert back to other websites.
Instead of Deskbabes current style, how about focussing on good orgasm clips only, and in its current form elsewhere that means closeup taskbar immersive porn. Elbows under knees or legs tucked behind head & the corresponding journey works a charm token wise. Its one model and intimate, it has a purpose, a conclusion and its worth collecting. Just my 2 cents.

If the iS program could be configured to accumulate mousclicks on a token sprite..maybe peeps could build up credit thresholds live to view omybod fireworks clips etc.

Oh my god, the butterfly is come out his chrysalis !
Simply beautiful ❤️

Izzy sexy legs

@Maelstrong,
If Little Caprice, Anna Tatu or Antonia came back, they're cards would achieve blockbuster sales.!

@Wyldanimal

Thanks for your efforts. I shall give it a try. I had done pretty much your first stage. I just created a directory called Temp and ***** all the scene folders that I didn't want into the folder. I often do this before I upload new scenes, just to check that the zip file to be uploaded has all the necessary files.

I think I'll create a number of additional folders (probably user name folders) with their scenes in them and use them as a sort of "playlist" type thing.

If this does work OK, then the only other potential problem I can see is the filenames for the scenes. A number of mine are too long to display fully so it is difficult to know which one is which. Even with the thumbnails it is sifficult to tell what some of them are. I think I may do a backup of the scene files and then do a temporary rename them. It should be fairly easy with one of the rename programmes that are going around. If/when Totem go back to scene groupings I'll delete the renamed scenes and restore the back-up ones.

You are true @Maelstrong, you can follow her progression in her blog
http://klara-vesela.blogspot.com.es/

There are a tons of pics just searching in pages of photographers and agencies she worked with
And her amateur casting just typing klara 2232 in Google.

She is a complete anonymous model, not like others with a large career. it's fascinating.

I hope we will enjoy her again very soon.

I voted for yes, but it always depends on the girls ...
There is one thing I don't understand. Why do you invite one girl after another instead bringing 4 girls to paris. Yes this would be expensive, but you could do all the solo and duo shows all together. Maybe you should invest in another shooting stage, if you haven't already.
You can mix the pairs, so you get a lot of shows out of this. I don't see the problem here ...

Caprice is certainly still around :)

@Wyldanimal, I don't quite get how this solves anything for Number6
You have not logged out of iStripper and logged back in during the video.
The next time you log in, won't the iS start accumulating all the archive folder as well...because you have archived only one level down from Scenes folder ?

edit: Oh sorry,..I just realised you are archiving only 2nd level to 3rd level subdirectories of ../Scenes.so cool

Jplus - 7 day(s) ago
Will all of these scenes compatible with iStripper?

Number6 - 4 day(s) ago
@Jplus

Yes they will work in iStripper however be aware that iStripper, at the moment, tries to "thumbnail" each of the scene files. It is fine if you only have a few scenes but there are over 4000 scenes that have been shared, in total, in this entire thread.

It crashed several time on my machine trying to catalogue all the scenes I have. I ended up putting all but 200 or so in a temporay folder so the programme can't find them.

Please Watch the Video Below.
This is a temporary Solution..
Use the Folder Icon on Full Screen, to Access the Stored Scenes folder.
Make an Folder that can be used as an Archive.
MOVE some of the Scene folders to that New Archive Folder.
As you Do, The GUI updates it's list of Scenes in Real time..

So Keep most of your Scenes in the Archive,
Use the Folder Icon to access them, ***** the Ones you want to use to the main Scene Folder
again, the GUI updates in Real time..

BUT, here's the good part.. The Scenes you ***** from the Archive to the Main Folder, Aren't rendered.
They Don't render till you Hover the Mose Long Enough to get a full rendered Scene...
A partial render will return to a blank scene..

I haven't tested this with 100's or 1000's of scenes, but I think if it Doesn't render them..
Maybe it won't crash..

Watch the Video Clip.. ( no Sound )
https://youtu.be/cfGxzOGukBg https://youtu.be/cfGxzOGukBg

@JPlus Very Happy Chinese New Year to you too :-)!
Don't be afraid to post anything new here that you have created.
We all share each others images and code at times. The important thing is to experiment !!
____________________________________________
Share your Scenes: (posts with d/load links only) http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=29408&gotolastpage=1#post482508
Discussions (Fullscreen current tech issues etc.) http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=27449&gotolastpage=1#post482896
Tutorials (basic Scene construction tutorials) http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=8&ftId=27410&gotolastpage=1#bottom
3 Guide Scenes http://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET%20Scenes07.zip
NB: if the above links don't work
edit www.virtuagirl.com/... to www.virtuagirl.eu/...

DrD:
Thanks for explanation.

I like pole dance especially, keep your great work for new concept of scenes.

Holy wow, thats quite a change in 2 years.

I wonder if Little Caprice will come back

Apologies if I have miss-interptreted the location of this post (it is my first one).

Does anybody know where I can get Melisa's Buttercup outfit from? Also her 'Little Poem' set.
No need to get the ones she actually wore, but i've been searching for her outfit for years and decided to finally ask you folks if you could maybe help.

Again I apologise If this post is in the wrong place, but I just thought i'd ask.

Thanks in advance :)

Skin Diamond ONLY 4 cards?
And i'm getting stalled out on the release dates.
She's all i need i'm feening for her.

@DrD... continuing the discussion at share thread http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=29408&gotolastpage=1#post490852
re: +DrD = Red Room3 - 02, 3 Approaching Girls+2 TV Girls Cloned.scn
Pleae disregard my comment about the front models being 'wrong way around'.
I wasn't concerned about whether the models positions were left or right.
I was checking out the scene's model heights with a huge playlist which included many old cards .

Relative height/size of models dancing in groups often show disparities in height when at similar z axis settings because of the way they were shot originally or the amount of hair or sole thickness in shoes.
The newer cards' models tend to look slightly larger.

While watching the scene I was finding a lot of instances of the closest front model appearing smaller relative to the other front (overlapped model) when they crossed paths, and it was enough difference to distract from the show.
At the time of making the post, I was assuming both front models had different standingheight settings, however a look at the code showed 4 & 5 at equal standing height of 960 pixels, and equal Z depth.

If you play around with standing height of clipsprite 5 (closest to cam) to make it slightly larger than 960...say 1040 pixels,and separate clipsprites 4 & 5 by a pixel of Z axis depth I thought it might accomodate a greater variety of cards, (it does on my machine) thats all I meant to say.

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3 Guide Scenes http://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET%20Scenes07.zip
NB: if the above links don't work
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bon anniversaire à Kari
qui fête ses 27 ans aujourd'hui

Hi my friends

Just an update on my progress

I now test Version 2.10.0 of PLM locally.
I have implemented reading the new names.xml and the new models.lst version. I also have done some refactoring to the code that reads the models.lst. It will make it easier to adjust to future changes to the models.lst.
It also means that i still support the V 1.2.0.84 version of the models.lst in 2.10.0.

No release yet as i want to add another feature: the support of the new playlist format.
So you can read it into PLM and you can also save playlists created by PLM in this new format.
I am sure you will agree that only this way it really becomes complete.

This is on my agenda for tomorrow and if necessary Sunday.
Once this works i will release a new version.

Have fun!

Progress update: I am now able to read vpl playlists in PLM
The last and most tricky part it the writing of vpl files.
VPLs can contain shows and clips.
Question is if PLM should save shows into the vpl too.
For now only the clips will be saved. So if you load a vpl that contains shows and then save it again these shows will have been splitted into clips.

• If PLM should save shows the next question is when should the show be saved and when the clips?
  
• If you have a playlist with all full show clips of a show should then the show be saved?
  

iStripper would then also play transitions and demos that were not on the playlist..
So i get back onto coding so that i can at least write clip playlists in vpl-Format.
Then i have to think that through.
But I would also like your opinion!

@EverthangForever
​Excellent suggestion to prevent pole-camera clash!
I got ***** up on the idea that Dancer 3 should first appear on the TV screen. This is because, perversely, I did the 6 Dancer scenes first. In the 6 Dancer scenes the pole does not go directly to the camera (though the dancer might) and so the 3rd sprite for every dancer is cut out using the 'animate, backward, -1.0e16' line. When I did the 3+2 scene I wanted the 3 dancers to be symmetric, so I ended up having Dancer 3 pole crash into the camera.
​
​With respect to Dancers 4 and 5 at the front being the wrong way round, the way I did it was intentional. I wanted the TV clones, when they appear, to be diagonal to the cloned girl at the front, and I wanted the front girl to be present in the 'dead time' at the start by using a once-only clipsprite. The girls needed to cross over in order that the speed of the once-only clipsprite should not differ noticeably from that of the left->right and right->left clipsprites. They do differ - 129.5 units/sec and 82.5 units/sec - but if the once-only clipsprite were to travel a shorter distance the difference would be much more noticeable.

@JPlus
Thanks for your posting.
The purpose of the band of light red color in floor is to help distinguish which girl has been replaced. The front girl is named just below the band, the second girl in the band, and the back girl above the band. Without the band it would not be possible to see which girl was which. The same applies to the 5 and 6 girl scenes, where odd numbered girls are on the left, even numbered girls are on the right. I confess that this is a leftover remnant of the testing phases, when I needed to know which girl I had got wrong (!), but I decided to leave it in.
​With many girls moving all over the place, it is hard to decide where to put the clipNamesprites!

+1 @murdoch ! C'est clair que c'est hyper pratique. 😊

Je prise particulièrement la facilité avec laquelle nous pouvons organiser l'ordre d'apparition sur scène en alignant simplement les modèles dans la marge. Je crois que c'est un "plus" par rapport aux coeurs qu'on accrochait aux icone dans l'ancienne version.

Coucou @celine, c'est voulu le fait de ne pas avoir placé le sujet dans la catégorie "Enchères" ?

@highheelslover, here is the rss link for virtuagirl.com:
www73.virtuagirl.com/rss/
(the deskbabes rss link has been discontinued)