@secretfire

I' ve seen SHITHEADS before, but YOU ARE the something else!!!

Wake up UNEDUCATED MORON, many of these girls are PORNSTARS!!!

Can' t you get it RED NECK???

They do SEX SCENES in PUBLIC!!!

Where the hell (out of your continuous masturbating fantasy), came in your UGLY head that they are ''exotic dancers''???

Who do you think you are, you little young american *****, that you dare to tell ME to leave your(???) thread???

I' ll repeat once more:

Look at your face on the mirror!

This will help you QUIT MASTURBATION!!!

im not taking sides as i think this is all very funny but totem has already admited the reason the shows arent more explicit is money not morals oh and by the way he started this thread so i guess it is his

so... i guess the real question is would totem make more money by allowing a few under eighteens to purchase tickets at a raised price through txt?

or by providing more more risque content thus enticing the users with the real money!

Pretty much all my comments on this forum have been geared towards this subject in one way or another but the sad fact is that tame strippers do not make money unless they are very good at what they do.

Mind you given the increase in popularity in sites like met-art over the past few years I can see the attraction, unfortunately the first thing I look for is other work the models have done - the recently mentioned brigitte hunter (btw I wish she was still blonde, she appears to have lost a little weight as well, no matter though she's still hawt!) will be a perfect example as since i've never seen her dance before she could be absolutely awful at it but a little more action would redeem the download.

I personally hope we get both! :)

oh, btw... if i'm wrong about the texting thing & age verification (somehow) is required, please let me know as i'm not inquisitive enough to make a purchase that way :D

off to watch jana & nella in some 'fisticuffs' action (they weren't punching each other! :)

maybe after that bijou in a more than decent B/G scene (the pout finally came in useful for something)

gotta love the interweb!

although @mokeyzappa guess u weren't around for the good old BBS days then?

All in all I guess the strengh of this content is a great advert for the girls & for the most part has a good amount of artistic value (although sometimes just plain boring) it would seem everyone's a winner except me :)

y'know I don't really like male pornstars, they kinda get in the way of what I wanna see (the girls) so this site has great potential but I would just like more overtly sexy behaviour, I can't believe more than a few males here would argue with that, oh and if these girls are gonna keep their clothes on for so long in these dances how about more peeks/upskirts - that type of thing??

(yes more!! :)

@Geeseh

yeah I understand what your saying about the content. that if a girl is not a very good dancer her show can be redeemed with more explicite content. and....acctually I tend to agree with that.
is that what the real complaint is?? that they want the bad dancers to just sit and spread it? I think thats kinda mean..and selfish, but then again you have to consider the big business aspect of it.
@agisgt
1. last time..i know they did porn 2. they are billed as strippers here stripper=exotic dancer. you could add belly dancing to exotic as well 3. I said OUR thread as in the gentlemen or ladies.You are not welcome here and have been reported....again

ok, the main point is, every girl with a zipper don't make a good stripper!

but then how are totem to know? there are a lot of casting/shooting aspects to consider and also I guess variety needs to be kept high to keep all of us happy.

now i'm not saying heavily encourage bernadette to open her legs if she doesn't want to, last thing I want to see is a frown on her face but for the pornstars who don't mind, let 'em get 'dirty'!

after all exotic dancing 'or whatever you call it' :) is is for somebody elses benefit but if it has no effect I may as well be watching hollyoaks!

if in the uk a hot 'stripper' wants to do herself with a lollipop, pull it out & stick it in a customers mouth thats all good with me (i trust she didnt see her boyfriend that day :(. I can appreciate it's tamer in the us (some states) but you guys can't be entirely happy with that?

unless you want a virtuagirlUS where the dancers don't show nipples or spread legs? it's still exotic dancing :D

@secretfire6

I start to feel sorry for you poor, little, uneducated MORON!

The title of this thread, fits you perfectly!
As much as I ***** you, YOU JUST DON' T GET IT!!!

Seems you really NEED it, so much low life, useless, loser you are!!!

A lesson for all the other members here:

Look at his face (omg, I' ve never seen so ugly face before!) & his writings and you shall see the results of the SEVERE MASTURBATION!!!

Just for the record:

I use Totem's software since the very beginning of VG, so when a low life, uneducated, (ugly) young kid, with huge brain damages from severe masturbation, comes out of the blue to teach us here what is Totem Entertainment, what kind of contracts Totem does with its models, what the models are doing for living, what is a stripper & an exotic dancer and the most serious, anyone who doesn' t agree with his sayings turns automaticaly to be a ''moron'', then IT PISSES ME OFF!!!

Just for the record 2:

Exotic are the dancers with costumes full of feathers (sometimes topless), that they ALWAYS keep their panties on and work in the ballets of casinos or cabarets!!!

Whew!!...'n' I thought we were all just a bunch o' happy wankers here!...Well, no worries...dramatic reading 'tho! Wail on!
@GeeseH...BIJOU doin' a B/G BJ!! WOW!! The image will haunt me all freakin' day. Where can I see her "really use that pout to good advantage?!" Thanks.
What do ya say:Totem puts out an invite to all our fave girls who have done XXX elsewhere but have NOT done explicit here, to come in and do an explicit set(spreading, twirling, pumping, inserting as the girls wish) to give us the satisfaction of seeing the "completion" to our fantasies in this special & wonderful showcase that is VGHD.
Sales would go through the roof. I know I'd buy 'em all. I'd love to see VIKI, ASHLEY, ZU,JANA ,you name others, do full explicit sets.Or at least to the leval of Jana's "CALI" set at minimum. I would just love the sense of completion that would accompany seeing ASH & Viki pumpin' 'n' twirlin' "it" right here.Meanwhile, calm down folks, "it's only a movie"! Peace out!

@geeseh
hahahaah a zipper?? heheeh thats funny, cuz everygirl i seen that has a zipper costume HAS been kinda....bad LOL
nope i've never had a problem with any of the content here i love it all. I have a problem with the rude whiney people who want all the girls to do what they want and give them and totem ***** if they dont.
then there are people like that queer greek guy. I don't even know where he came from and why it so angry..or if its a real person. my guess is its some 12 year old kid that took his daddy's credit card and photo.
anyways..im done here. my last message is, if you want to see more or different content, put in the request and leave it at that. no *****. no whining..no threats of cancellation. ( I saw those things and it prompted me to post the thread. maybe i was a bit harsh, but that stuff pisses me off)

Seems like this has turned into a flame war that our moderators seem to not care about even though this post should have been closed already.

These are 'Strippers on your Desktop', they are not supposed to be 'Hardcore Porn Stars', even if they are, playing with toy's to keep you wanting more.

Seems to be the inquisitive side of human nature, show some clevage and you want to see a tit, show a tit and you want to see panties, show some panties and you want to see a quiff, show a quiff and now you want to see something inserted in it.

That probably accounts for the avatar that was on the site for a day or so that depicted a quiff with a carrot inserted into it. Fortunately for us, someone had the good sense to remove the avatar.

ah, back from work & more comments

@codehammer - glad to see you're enjoying the site... no really :)

haha - the VGHD slogan of 'strippers on your desktop' returns - y'know under different management the team could have men stripping for your pleasure or take it to extremes & have I don't know trannies or something. It's still within the context of the slogan!

guess you wouldn't ***** there either huh??

I have never once asked for any sex toys to be incorporated into these shows & never will, it's just not what I expect to see here - I do however expect a level certain level of professional/technical competence from the girls stripping here but it would appear i'm in the minority when I expect 'strippers' to be damn good & what they do :(

@secretfire

so you're happy so everyone else should stfu, if the shoe was on the other foot I guess you'd just quietly sneak out?

Some users would just like to be assured as to where the site's heading in the future!

@codehammer
Hear, hear! IMHO this is the most sensible comment in this thread. Let's enjoy the shows! If you want to see more than you get here, the internet is full of it. Just go and get it.

@secretfire6

Hey, ugly MORON!

I see that your condition gets worst!!!
Maybe along with severe masturbation, you are on ***** or crak too...!

Otherwise, you wouldn' t STILL wonder where I came from & why I am so angry at you, after all my explanations above...

So, once more then (repetition is the mother of knowledge):

I become offensive, ONLY after someone ***** me FIRST!!!
And you DID IT, low life red neck!!!

I also saw your crap (which insulted of course my intelligence), when you suggested the team to ***** tennis balls above the models heads (perhaps your balls should fit better there..., if you have any...!), but since you didn' t insult anyone IN PERSON, I didn' t make an offensive post at you moron!!!

After all, EVEN masturbators & junkies have the right to post in a FREE forum!!!

Pretty cool thinking from a 12 year old kid, don' t you agree human failure???

A conclusion to this thread:

The GOOD: GeeseH

The BAD: codehammer

& the UGLY: secretfire6

Usually the people who are unhappy with the explicit content are extreme porn ***** who can no longer be pleased by a simple striptease. They can't admire something for the beauty of it. Unless it's something they can jerk off all day to they don't want it.

Just like the label on a bottle of Tylonol is geared for the weak, take 2 which does nothing for normal people, Totem's explicit content is geared toward a more simple crowd. Instead of extreme vulgarity it has class and taste.

Usually the people who are unhappy with the people who are unhappy with the explicit content, are extreme impotent persons who can no longer be pleased by a complex striptease!

They can' t stand to watch something whitch reminds them their impotence!

Unless it's something that don't cause them jealousy of the potent persons, they don't want it!

Just like the label on a bottle of Viagra is geared for the impotent, take 2 which does nothing for potent people, Totem's explicit content should geared toward a more complex crowd.

Instead of extreme softcore, it should have fingering and dildo play!!!

WOW!!! A heated debate,I'm nearly afraid to post a reply(for ***** of being insulted).It's clear that one persons idea of explicit can differ widely from anothers.In general I like to see the pink and am disappointed when I don't.However,when I joined this site(as someone said) I expected to see "strippers",not orgies.If a card came out with a girl using a "toy" or something I wouldn't be against it,but,I don't expect it either.There are flaws with this site for sure(try looking up "black" or "latina").Perhaps,VGHD should think about another rating system.Like noting that a card is "EXPLICIT"(full frontal nudity)or "STRIPTEASE" etc.I think this site is a "work in progress" and who knows what it will be like in a year.There might a Premium Membership for those who want extreme shows.There might not.
That's all I have to say...except:I'm Proud To Be An American!Just as I'm sure others are Proud To Be Greek or British or French,etc.I don't see a need to start calling others "morons"etc

Well done mr. delivery driver!

I dunno millertime, in this context as a whole package the beauty is entirely subjective as can be noted by previous topics.

been looking through the member lists recently;

as of 03:12 01/03/08 (03/01/08 for you silly americans, j/k :) vghd had 926669 members
not sure how many subscribers

recently the 1st choice card for many new members has been vicky s - golden river (prob due to the high rating & the comments). Is this a coincidence? are users choosing her because of her good looks, her high rating or her explicit content?

probably all 3, so why don't a higher percentage of the girls have these boxes ticked?

of course totem know this & have promised to deliver more content of this type, & to be honest I can't wait - but to start a thread about users ***** when they've just received 'lucianna - snowboarder' cuz they don't see the 'beauty' of it kinda gets my goat.

Well let ME say one thing ... I'm an American ... and damn proud of it ! ... Not a kid for sure and agree that dildos and crap are NOT NEEDED OR WANTED ! All that would do is cheapen and trash the whole program . If beautiful women performing does'nt do it for you ... go download some pure porn wmv's . Virtuagirl has seen fit to still stay on top with class shows along the lines of Playboy keeping itself out of the gutter with back alley porn . Stupid plastic toys and raw les penetration is not why most of we loyal followers for years have cum back to subscribe . Don't brand Americans .... I'd compare my credentials with yours any day AgisGT ! Silly Americans ????? You better take a look around the world and see how many would give anything to be here and be an AMERICAN ! They don't call the United States " THE WORLD " for nothing ! Secretfire6 ... you're completely correct .. we have real women he always relates to masturbation ... does that tell you anything ? LOL ---

Well somebody already started insulting someone else!That didn't take long.I've said my piece,I'm done with this topic.

@damercenary

Hey, Pancho Villa..., you came in too furious, someone has to slow you down and he will be ME!

I relate to masturbation, because it seems to be your NATIONAL SPORT!!!
From your ridiculous president till retired grandpas like you!

Especially to you, the life time masturbation caused BLINDNESS!!!

GeeseH named you ''silly americans'' (not that you aren' t of course!), NOT ME, retired MORON!!!

Old man, stupid plastic toys and raw les penetration, ALSO DIDN' T STOP YOU, to come back to subscribe!!!

I fully RESPECT americans like karpos, but I ***** on americans like you & secretfire6, miserable creatures!!!

If you insist on fu**ing with me, I am ALWAYS available!!!

Dammit!AGAIN SOMEONE HAS TO START INSULTING SOMEONE ELSE!!The national pastime of America is Baseball...not "MASTURBATION"!You are incredibly RUDE.From what I've heard ,"GREEKS" like it up the ass!
Shall I continue?"Why wouldn't the little Greek Boy run away from home?" "Because he couldn't leave his brothers' BEHIND"!
What do you call a "*****" in Greece? A girl who can outrun her brothers!
This is stupid *****.And,yes,you do have a problem with Americans.To
which I say BOO-HOO.I'm sorry,I'm not a world traveler.But I remember
my brother coming back from the ARMY and telling me that the Brits. ***** Americans,he was stationed in Florence,Italy.The French ***** Americans.The Itialians ***** Americans.The Germans ***** Americans.This is why,if I ever got the money,I wouldn't travel the world.According to my bro. the only people in Europe who showed him any respect where AUSTRAILIAN!

This "thread?" has gone way further than it should and needs to end!
I hope VGHD deletes it soon.

absolutely amazing!! :o

I found this thread absolutly amazing and ridicoluos...i live in Italy, so if a stripper make some insertion, that's NORMAL!!!...You can listen me people? ABSOLUTLY NORMAL!!!...I'm really sorry that in USA that can't be, because that can generate some misunderstanding with other people...USA is'nt THE WHOLE world, can you understand this, Mr. Secretfire6? So if iexpect to see a little more when i read "Very explict", i expect only to see what's NORMAL here where i live. Is "Very explicit" offensive for your young eyes? I can understand this, and that's why there is a "DON'T SHOW EXPLICT SHOW" flag to pick...THAT'S FOR YOU, BABE :)

Please calm down about this issue. ***** won't be tolerated here no matter what, there won't be any further warning.