Either they increased the odds or i am just lucky.. can't say which one.

if they did that I would be pissed. REALLY BAD. I was down 800 credits when I finally got the card

@Starryk

Either they increased the odds or I am just lucky.. can't say which one.

Neither - I was one of those that played this game quite soon after its appearance. I played about 10 times (not sure if it was 9, 10 or 11 times) so I spent about 100 credits - but I won 130 credits, and got the new special event card. If I had not had a full collection I would also have won another card as well. From what I have seen reported here the odds of winning do not seem far off 50-50 (though I doubt its quite that good) which is consistant with some having quite long losing streaks and others being lucky enough to get what they want quite quickly.

If anyone is interested

http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41540/1?post=612368

The new cosplay tag in this beta appears to work in fullscreen scenes.

Not sure exactly how much use it is for scene creators but I'll leave that to your imagination😊

@Starryk

Exactly the way that I feel.
I will just be using up my current credit balance and not purchasing anymore.

So I tried the game and it gave a crazy winning series for me. Thanks !

@gatroll - moderators here have proven many times they act in an unprofessional manner throughout the years, and although there has been some improvement as of late (at least IMO) it's still a ***** to read their comments sometimes.

I don't think anything can be done about that at this point, so it's best not to engage in any kind of conversation about that, as it's a waste of everyone's time.

@Alkasyn I can see what you mean. I will take your advice. Thank you.

They can't have the full collection anymore unless they spend tons of credits on a game they can't really win from. That might be the straw that breaks the camels back for these users.

@Starryk Indeed.

No guarantee but i did in the end get the special event card basically for free. from 20 scratches only 5 without 3 S icons and 1 time 50 credits and 1 time 100 credits were in there also with many 10 credits wins and a few cards. In the end my credit counter is the same as before i bought the scratch tickets. Either they increased the odds or i am just lucky.. can't say which one.

@haruchai Phew, thanks, you have me worried for a minute there 👍

Personally i think that those users with a full collection have every right to be angry. (and i am NOT one of these users)
They have supported Totem for over 10 years in many cases and would probably continue to buy everything that Totem releases for the next 10 years.
Obviously these users are very keen on having a full collection, because you can be pretty sure that they haven't watched all the shows in their collection.
So what would be the cost to either make such a game without a new special event card, or give that new special event card to these users who have been the backbone support of the company for free?
Now we have a situation that some of these users so pissed that they are seriously considering to stop buying new shows because they feel ripped off. They can't have the full collection anymore unless they spend tons of credits on a game they can't really win from. That might be the straw that breaks the camels back for these users.

Whatever you do Totem, please do not end this promotion until after tomorrow - Tuesday. I have two people from the Massachusetts Gaming Comission who will be checking out your Scratch Game tomorrow. They thought they had only Scratch Card concession in the State! At minimum, there will likely be some kind of hearing, and maybe I will get a chance to listen to the Totem lawyers up close and personal! Only bad news is I will probably have to spend a few credits to show the Commission the scheme, but a small price!

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.
Just to be clear: this is an ironic analogy, right? Hard to know sometimes.

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@peterbanker, sorry I didn't think at that. Maybe a "preorder" promo could be a better solution, then...
(Obviously, the best solution would be stopping exclusive releases, and making the existing ones buyable. I own one exclusive card, but wouldn't have ANY problem if I saw it available for everyone...)

Wow, Monday evening and not even a form post from Totem?

No wonder it was the same for the last time. I don't think the opinions of someone are interested. 😕

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

Just to be clear: this is an ironic analogy, right? Hard to know sometimes.

@HansSachs

One major problem with your idea.
What about members who already own so many cards that they would be unable to complete the promo and get the exclusive card?

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

LOL! Good (and funny) point, @haruchai!

This is like everyones favourite rock band making an album and saying you can get it by entering a competition by buying scratch cards. You might get money, you might get an album by a Thrash Metal/Country and Western/Rap/Pop Band from the same label or you might get the album you want but the chances are very slim. Or you might get nothing. The one thing you can be certain of is that they will never let you buy it.
The internet would go ballistic! It would be on the news

Just let me buy the Ginebra Bellucci cards for pitys sake.

Am I the only one that thinks Amibo or pokemon when it comes to I stripper? Of course there are going to be timed exclusives. Collectors are crazy when it comes to those types of things and of course its the marketing team to come up with new and better ways to get things out there like the games...


let's face it having ten girls on the screen and trying to scratch cards around em for me was kinda of hilarious and i basicly never took my finger off the right mouse button it was like microsoft paint trying to scratch those damn things lol.. I don't get to do a lot of things normal people do so these games make life a little more worth while...BUT THATS JUST ME

Wow, Monday evening and not even a form post from Totem?

Exclusive cards for that event that you can't buy the standard way ?

No money from me, I don't want to support those methods.

You're going in dangerous direction that can ***** you a lot of long-time members, guys, seriously...

I hope that at least those cards will be available normally once this unpleasant event is over.

Let the scratch game begin! May the odds be ever in your favour... :)

I expect that the team is sliding it in under the slightly... morally loose legislation of mobile gaming;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_gambling

Which can be quite lucrative! :)

If it's really impossible to make them buyable, the exclusive cards could at least be no more offered in gambling promos, with totally uncertain win rates - which make so many users upset.
A promo like the "Free packs" one of some weeks ago could be far better in my opinion; my idea is: who completes all the promo gets an exclusive card for free.
That would made happy both company and customers: company would still manage to to get a big amount of earnings on cards people wouldn't have bought otherwise; customers would able to get an exclusive card knowing in advance the credit amount to be spent in order to get it, and so there wouldn't be any complaint.

@shodan084 - I agree, but it seemed to me that you were saying that there was no indication that it was a lottery. To me the wording on the card was quite clear about the nature of the game, though not about the probability of winning.

I'm pretty sure that terms and conditions, chances to win are slightly longer than just "scratch here". :)

If you buy a scratch card there is a whole load of terms printed on the back, chance to win too.

@shodan084

If it is a lottery, you might want to put that in the rules somewhere.

It is there, being implied by the words "Scratch the circles and match 3 S to win". I do think, however, that it the wording could have been more explicit, and I also think that it would have been better still if the odds of getting a S and of each type of prize had been quoted somewhere.

I'm no lawyer either but regarding the legality of these kind of games here, the BIG difference is that once you have freely paid your money to buy credits, you can only spend them here and they CANNOT be exchanged for cash.
A casino on the other hand will exchange any winnings (chips) for cash.

I'm guessing that a qualified lawyer would say that once a person has spent their cash on credits, then it doesn't matter, legally, how they are used within the confines of the only place they CAN be used.

The money has already been 'spent' freely so cannot be reclaimed in court. Nobody is ***** to play the games. Every member has the choice to use their credits how they wish.

Actually it is not that easy. They are operating in a grey area. At the moment there is similar discussion going on in regards to buying lootboxes in videogames. The belgian and dutch authorities already decided that they are illegal gambling and are going after companies selling lootboxes in videogame for real money or special game currency bought with real money. I am no lawyer either, but I am pretty sure therefore some of the games (scratch game included) on IS would be considered illegal gambling in Belgium and the Netherlands.
Like one other user said, Totem is playing with fire. If a gambling authority really tries to pursue their games and take them to court, there is a real possibility this could blow up right into Totems face eventhough their lawyer said they are fine.

My goodness at this point i can't do anything but applaud Totem it's Monday mourning and i'm still reading horror stories about how much people loss with no gain.

I want the Ginebra card as much or even more than some people, but the odds of getting a lot of cards that i already left on the table is greater than getting the one card i want.

So i'll keep my money and credits and wait for the next game or promo and "hope" it works better for my selective card buying.

companies change their methods over time yet even though this collecting hobby gets quite expensive now (i liked my old subscription better) i still see it as agreeable in the fact that i can, at any time, pick up any card i choose to no matter how much time has passed. however, these "special event" cards are honestly nothing more special than any other card beyond their paywalls and die rolls. this is something i do not find agreeable since i am a collector of the cards. i enjoy collecting them in full sets even if i do not watch them for some time. being able to collect a full set of a model feels like a nice achievement and your team even tracks this which is cool. ever collect baseball or comic cards? ever have that ONE card you cannot seem to collect no matter how many packs you buy? remember how you could go to a comic shop and find that ONE card you needed to complete your collection? why not implement this idea here in the form of an auction marketplace for those who got it and would like to sell it for credits? the community would set the price of the card and would offer a new way to obtain these otherwise unobtainable cards.

If it is a lottery, you might want to put that in the rules somewhere. It's only fair to safe gamble. It's better to not gamble at all... can someone tell that to the ***** driver that hit me? :)

@HonourSamurai

I agree with your last statement totally.

@joecool110

I lost nearly 900+ bonus credits on the last one and did not get a single card out of it. Will never play this kind of game again. No matter what they throw at us for a prize. I have been with Totem since the original version of the software. Still extremely dissappointed at exclusivity. I could say more but other members have already voiced my opinoin of this sham.

@gatroll - moderators here have proven many times they act in an unprofessional manner throughout the years, and although there has been some improvement as of late (at least IMO) it's still a ***** to read their comments sometimes.

I don't think anything can be done about that at this point, so it's best not to engage in any kind of conversation about that, as it's a waste of everyone's time.

"not overly dismissive" WTF

Over 1000 credits + bonus credits worth of spins and finally one special card...not the one I wanted. No Ginebra. This game is BS. Wish I had read this thread before playing.

Wow! This is bad. I've spent 300 + bonus and have yet to get a special card win but if I had and did not get the only card labeled as special on the store.... Bait and switch is a term that fits well here. You slip beyond unethical into the criminal.

I don't see any remembering when Totem was literally giving money away when the buy 1000 credits get 250 or whatever the extra amount was and that lasted longer then a weekend.

That is neither literally nor figuratively giving money away. As you further point out, a company's first priority is to make a profit, and that's exactly what Totem did with that promotion. Giving money away? You have to be joking. It was an interesting promotion for sure. Much more interesting than those "special event" cards that appear in the store as a bait yet can't be bought. But it was in no imaginable way giving money away.

A company first priority is to make a profit. The money is not at the 3 diamond level. We already getting a heck of a discount and more than likely we already either have all the cards or have picked all the cards we mostly want. If this was my company I would be going after the lower users and getting them hooked in as well.

And there's nothing to be said against the present game per se. It is indeed interesting for new customers, there's absolutely no doubt about it. The problem is that: a- those "special event" cards are put in as a bait to get big collectors to jump in; and b- both rate and probability are apparently making it very, very costly for those who take the bait.

Yes, they shouldn't take the bait, but they do and they end out with the feeling of getting ripped off. This has nothing to do with "lower users" who actually benefit a lot from this. This has to do with upsetting big customers and not caring a fig about it.

As with most HOBBIES in life you never going to get back what you put in it so you either pay the cost and keep enjoying or finally say enough is enough and get out of it. That's really your only 2 options.

This is not a hobby. This is a product. We're not idle players, we're customers. Where's the enjoyment when you feel like you're being played like a fiddle for money?

And there's a third option (as there is ALWAYS whenever anyone says that there are only 2 options). You can also voice your concerns in the hope that the company actually cares for its customers. That is actually the way the vast majority of service firms have been going for decades now. "Take it or leave it" cannot be considered a fine business model anymore.

About this matter, I agree with @TheEmu.

Let's all face it: exclusive cards, and promos about them, managed to make upset both collectors of all cards and selective pickers, more and more. Not exactly a success... Such an approach can surely be remunerative at the start, but it's getting a huge and still increasing amount of very negative feedbacks that can not be ignored... We all saw what happened this time. I think Team should totally reconsider (and end asap) these exclusive releases, that could, in the end, make them lose customers. In my opinion exclusivity, for lots of reasons, has been a total failure.

Thanks, for the answer.

To be clear and as I had other family business to attend to, no moderator was overly dismissive of comments made on this topic. It was pointed out that no one is ***** to play the games (and I do not), but if you want to obtain a missed and rare card , you are certainly having a carrot dangled in front of your eyes.

Certainly tempting as are many things in life but not *****.

Please keep your comments civil and if you are going to go out of your way to attack a moderator, then you are already in breach of the Forum's T & C's.

If you are not happy a bout a moderator's performance, then raise a complaint. Celine or one of the team will always review the complaint and decide what id any action needs to be taken.

The moderators DO get feedback from the team, but NOT on specific complaints. We get advised in general terms if Totem feels that we are being too heavy handed.

Cheers & Beers

Over 1000 credits + bonus credits worth of spins and finally one special card...not the one I wanted. No Ginebra. This game is BS. Wish I had read this thread before playing.

I do not care about lost credits, but what piss me off that the cards are automatically added to the collection - (it was very hard ask if i want that card add to collection or throw it into the trash). Really thanks for destroy my collection.

PS. i played last time, this time i saved my money

I believe, definitely, the more cards in your account the better your chances in *this particular* game of chance. And in gratitude for this I purchased a lot ... over fifty ... of the classic cards that I probably would never have looked at.

Some of these cards, over twenty years old, feature awesome nude photography. Probably won't see all of it over the next year but OMG! .... I remember pictures like these were like gold, platinum in the days of my youth (over 30 years ago!). Well worth the puny 5 or 6 tokens per show iStripper asks for.

this was not that bad of a game. If did't make back the credits i was spending i just would tryed so hard at one point i was 400 in the hole and got them all back

It probably helps that you have 4,000 cards so there is not a lot of opportunity to get cards you don't wan't and 400 credits to get one card seems a bit much to me but to each their own. For most this remains a foolish gamble but glad it worked out for you.

@Interestincard

I still remember the stress to get the new cards on summer 2015 when I started here. 20% discount during a week. And after that a new card was really expensive for a new user.

LUXURY.....We had it tough. We had to sit beside our computers late on a Thursday night and into the early Friday morning, waiting for the new card to be released. It was one card per week in those days. Card release was not at the same time every week, and was discounted for a very short span of hours.

Veni, Vidi, Vici Bitches... All 4 ... DONE ....Easily made my credits back too and it would have staid that way if I had any self control... but then again if I had that I wouldn't be here in the first place would I? lol

Now let me check where did I put that dawgone rent money? Oh wait I forgot Totem has it lol Joking LOVE YOU!

[quoteTo me she's kind of meh.

Heh ... well, everyone has different tastes and I'm not demeaning yours or Omgman's but the girl has consistently received ratings in the 4.5 to 4.75 range in her earlier shows. The current "special" card is only sitting at 4.0 but surely this is influenced more by the scratch game than Ginebra's performance.[/quote]

I really wouldn't know that. All that I have seen of her is in the 3 preview clips of the current “special” card.

this was not that bad of a game. If did't make back the credits i was spending i just would tryed so hard at one point i was 400 in the hole and got them all back

I wasn't going to have anything to do with this promotion but curiosity got the better of me, I purchased 6 tickets and it was a waste! I had 4 winning cards out the 6, all shows that I had no intention of adding to my collection by choice. The two cards that were not winners had 100 credits and the other was the Ginebra exclusive show, because of course it would be!
This has made me not want to bother with anymore chance/gambling games Totem may do in the future, I would normally give the weekend slot machine a few spins when that promotion is on but now I don't think I would even do that anymore.
I would rather exclusive shows be avaliable for everyone for a limited time, even if the show cost more than the normal amount, that way everyone has the opportunity to have the exclusive shows if they wanted them.
Does anyone else agree? Would you rather spend 30,40,50 credits in the space of 48 hours for an exclusive show or continue to throw away hundreds / thousands of credits for ultimately nothing?

[quoteTo me she's kind of meh.[/quote]

Heh ... well, everyone has different tastes and I'm not demeaning yours or Omgman's but the girl has consistently received ratings in the 4.5 to 4.75 range in her earlier shows. The current "special" card is only sitting at 4.0 but surely this is influenced more by the scratch game than Ginebra's performance.